question reading what to expect if i proceed

[pontiac]

Dear clarity community
I hope i find you all well and hope any of you will be able to offer some insight into a reading I have
The hexagrams i have are 61 with changing lines in the 5th 4th and 3rd to hexagram 14
I am a novice at interpreting the I ching although I have tried for many years
A bit of background into my inquiry is regarding my health and an important decision I must now make regarding a long standing bowel condition i have had for twenty odd years which has been difficult to live with and have had good and bad spells however now experiencing a very bad spell which has left me contemplating taking action which I dont feel happy about especially with the current pandemic because of the probable need to go to a hospital and being in a high risk group makes it more dangerous than it usually would,the nature of my inquiry is if i need to worry or not and if I do need to investigate incase I have somthing unerlying which is wrong ie cancer,from exprience I have encounted serious symtoms before and come through them and have had many tests in the pasts that have all been clear the most recent only a couple of years ago but now find myself with more responsibility with children so im torn at what I should do especially as any hospital tests can only cause more stress than i already have and intervention in my case would probably need surgery which could make my situation worse
I would really appreciate anybody's thoughts and thank anybody who has taken the time to read this post
All the best
james

 

[Matali]

61-14 : I would say you can trust your doctor (line 3), even if there is a little delay for your next appointment (4). In any case, my diagnostic hypothesis is very positive But see your doctor...

 

[pontiac]

Thankyou matali for your quick response

 

[pontiac]

Dear Clarity community
I thought I would look for some more insight into my original question by asking another which is related,i asked if surgical intervention would help me and improve my health and I got hexagram 53 changing to 26 with changing lines in the 1st and 2nd, from what I interpret this looks positive but I would welcome anybody's wisdom on this reading
Thankyou very much reading
James

 

[diamanda]

if i need to worry or not and if I do need to investigate incase I have somthing unerlying
61.3.4.5 > 14
Yes you need to worry and investigate, there is something 'cramped/crooked' in there.

if surgical intervention would help me and improve my health
53.1.2 > 26
There is something small and dangerous, but it's still at a very early stage. I don't believe you'll need surgery, because of the ease of line 53.2, but please go to the doctor and have all appropriate tests.

 

[Trojina]

I don't think one can really tell someone there is something 'small and dangerous' there from this or any reading. You've worried someone unnecessarily and you don't actually know.

How is telling someone these things helpful, you just worry them without cause.

 

[Trojina]

Dear clarity community
I hope i find you all well and hope any of you will be able to offer some insight into a reading I have
The hexagrams i have are 61 with changing lines in the 5th 4th and 3rd to hexagram 14
I am a novice at interpreting the I ching although I have tried for many years
A bit of background into my inquiry is regarding my health and an important decision I must now make regarding a long standing bowel condition i have had for twenty odd years which has been difficult to live with and have had good and bad spells however now experiencing a very bad spell which has left me contemplating taking action which I dont feel happy about especially with the current pandemic because of the probable need to go to a hospital and being in a high risk group makes it more dangerous than it usually would,the nature of my inquiry is if i need to worry or not and if I do need to investigate incase I have somthing unerlying which is wrong ie cancer,from exprience I have encounted serious symtoms before and come through them and have had many tests in the pasts that have all been clear the most recent only a couple of years ago but now find myself with more responsibility with children so im torn at what I should do especially as any hospital tests can only cause more stress than i already have and intervention in my case would probably need surgery which could make my situation worse
I would really appreciate anybody's thoughts and thank anybody who has taken the time to read this post
All the best
james

Well your best bet is to discuss it with your Drs who will decide if investigation/surgery is necessary. I mean you are jumping ahead several steps here.

I don't agree with any comment, regardless of who it is, that advises you that you have something dangerous, we can't go diagnosing people with the I Ching, we really can't, it's irresponsible.

Can't even see the reading... hang on you haven't said what the question is ? Ah it's the title 'what to expect if I proceed ?'

Well you seem to think if you make enquiries at all it will head to surgery or at least tests and you don't want that.


So 61.3.4.5>14 is how you write out . In 61 our own subjective experience looms large and so it can refer to those strong 'gut feelings'....and of course bowels seems to be incredibly connected to feelings. For some reason I tend to get diarrhoea when it's time to leave the house these days, not sure why. I've started talking to my bowel/body saying 'it's okay, you're alright, you don't need to freak out, no emergency'. It does work to an extent but also it clearly has something of a mind of it's own that perceives danger.


No way am I suggesting the worsening of symptoms is emotional as I don't know. You may have something more seriously wrong but only a medical Dr can tell you that.


Looking at 61.3 I do see emotions being amplified, bouncing back and forth between you and others, increasing your general arousal level. Is this so ? Is it worth it for a day or 2 to try bringing the emotions down, comforting your bowels, advising them there is no need to go into spasm or anything else ? Only you know what your emotional contacts have been like lately. For sure if there's someone else pressing your buttons it can be worth looking at that for an impact on your digestion.


61.4 often has to do with change and partings, needing to take one's own route for a while. Perhaps this is upsetting you ?


61.5 shows a good strong bond that can be trusted.


So is this about your actual question or the emotional backdrop to your life right now ? 14, 'Great Having' shows you have wealth in the connections that may be upsetting you ?



I can't however take it that this is all about your emotions though, that also would be irresponsible given I don't know if your symptoms need more investigations right now. All I'd say is for a day or two, over this weekend, maybe is it worth checking out if you have been way more emotional or stressed in relationship than normal ?


You could try just this weekend having some calming chats with your bowel. Then if symptoms go on and on and you are worried you need to speak to the Dr of course. I see absolutely no suggestion that anything is dangerous and don't know where Diamanda gets that idea from.

 

[diamanda]

I get the idea of small and dangerous from line 53.1.
小 small
子 child, seed, egg
厲 severe, dangerous

 

[Trojina]

Dear Clarity community
I thought I would look for some more insight into my original question by asking another which is related,i asked if surgical intervention would help me and improve my health and I got hexagram 53 changing to 26 with changing lines in the 1st and 2nd, from what I interpret this looks positive but I would welcome anybody's wisdom on this reading
Thankyou very much reading
James

53 is slow, it doesn't skip steps in procedure. You are jumping way ahead given surgical procedure hasn't even been suggested yet has it ?

I think you are being asked to slow down and wow look at 53.2, joy in eating and drinking. It's asking you to enjoy yourself and I wonder given line 1 if you will be smoothing things over with someone who has upset or disturbed you a little bit and you may find things get better after that smoothing over. That's just a thought it may not apply at all.

It may well be worth talking to a Dr now but I don't think you need to jump straight into thinking of surgery. 26 can be referring to sources of knowledge..to me this looks like a gradual understanding coming which probably steers you away from surgery. Change patterns 19/33.


Overall stay in close touch with the relationship between bowel activity and what you are experiencing emotionally. Then perhaps next week if it is still bad talk to your Dr.

 

[Trojina]

Actually 53.1.2 changes to 9 not 26 ?


I'd say that was holding back a bit to see how it goes.

 

[Trojina]

I get the idea of small and dangerous from line 53.1.
小 small
子 child, seed, egg
厲 severe, dangerous

Doesn't seem enough, and no reading would in medical issues for others, to say there actually is something dangerous. The danger could lie in all sorts of things.

I agree one needs to heed signs and get tests where necessary but I thought your initial reading was too alarmist.

 

[pontiac]

You're right Trojina it is 9 not 26 need my eyes testing as well,my mistake, I guess this a less positive hexagram but does ring true hopefully not all negative, surgery is not recommended for me as it can cause more problems but I have had elective surgery in the past that did improve things so thats why I asked the question,I have lived with severe to mild symptoms for the last twenty years on and off and thats why I get regular checks and I have had every test under the sun.. which have always been clear, as much as any scan and blood test will show anyway, I suffer from abdominal adhesions so im always in danger to a certain degree as they can cause problems and have done ,I suspect things can be crooked at times or seen as potentially dangerous but this is how I have lived for a long while,the danger could also be in interfering, I would never jump into any surgery and because the bowel is sensitive im always second guessing what will happen next as it is unpleasent and somtimes a bit scary and I can overthink things and make myself worse, I know there are many things that influence my condition and stress is a big factor at the moment ,as I mentioned in my original question I have experianced similar if not worse symptoms before and the symptoms have gone away ...all of that said i will see my dr and no doubt im in for more tests and scans
Thanks for all your input
james