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I am new here and new to I Ching. The question that I asked, "What will happen if I continue forecasting?" is the result of quite a bit of very deep meditations, visions that I have received, and certain abilities that I have discovered within myself. I am aware of a "mission" but unclear regarding the exact nature of it. I am fearful of deception and of unintionally misleading others. The reading pdf is attached. I look forward to the comments and question from those of you more experienced than myself.
 

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Develop your super powers (Siddhis)
but hold off on displaying them openly.
You'll get to/have to use them for the rest of your life. Unsung heroes are still heroes.
 

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"What do I need to know right now?"19.1.2 to 2
 

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"What do I need to be doing right now?"10.4 to 61
 

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"Should I openly display all that I know to others?"54Aligns with your advice Moss Elk.
 

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There is no need to attach PDF's,
just write down the reading like you are,
but skip the PDF's.


Also, you may want to write down what you yourself think the readings mean.
 

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"Is it unwise for me to discuss these readings with strangers in a forum?" 55
 

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"What must I do in order to stay humble?" 39.1.3.5 to 24"How long do we have left to make our changes?" 24.1.2 to 7"Who am I?" 44.2 to 33"Why am I here?" 50.3.4.6 to 7"Is it my part to begin change or to simply wait for cues and flow with the rest?" 21
 

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What is your understanding of these readings ?

Many do come and just plonk readings down here, with none of their own thoughts at all and very little meaningful background and seemingly expect others to come along and do the work of interpreting, so having seen people do that you probably think that is the normal thing to do. But actually it isn't the best way at all.

IMO the best way to elicit helpful responses and get the most out of posting your query in SR are..

1. Give a brief contextual background the reading.
2. State what the reading is that you have received
3. Say what you feel or think about your answer
4. Invite other's feedback
5. After reading any responses you get give some feedback and update on how the reading plays out.


1. is important. Too much information and it will look like too much work. If someone has to sit and read pages and pages it's taking a lot of their time and brain power. Too little information and we are shooting in the dark. Trying to pin the tail on the donkey blindfold. A happy medium is a paragraph or two I think.

2. People seem to forget this crucial point sometimes.

3. This is very important because as you say what you think and feel it opens the gates to the reading as it were. The reading is addressed to your mind so if you share your sense of the reading the reading is actually more open for everyone to get a feel for it. No experience is needed to do this. All you have to do is read the text and the lines and just write down what comes to mind in how it might relate to your situation.

4. That's obvious, if you want responses.

5. This creates a good flow between you and the respondents. You have enriched them with your reading experience and they are probably more likely to respond to you in future.

Just walking away after receiving responses, never giving feedback or any kind of response is about the worse way to 'share' a reading here IMO.

Those are just my thoughts on optimum conditions for getting optimum help in the Shared Readings section.
Moss Elk

Develop your super powers (Siddhis)
but hold off on displaying them openly.

Superpowers are all very well as long as you don't let go of ordinary powers at the same time. Also in themselves they are nothing, it's what you might do with them that matters. Sometimes just ordinary powers will help a lot more people than 'super powers'


Unsung heroes are still heroes
.

I really like this as a little saying for 2.3 because it sums it up well I think. I'm going to put it in wiki if that's okay with you ? If not let me know.
 

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Trojina, may I add a link to Moss Elk's post in WikiWing?
 

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Well it's up to Moss Elk rather than me ...but to me the relevant piece has been quoted, there's nothing much else in the thread to see is there ? Not so far anyway so why link ?...
 

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...I mean so far it's just quite a muddly thread with a long list of questions, me advising about getting optimum responses and a brief response from Moss from which I've quoted. My thought would be why link ? Which is why I didn't link. I just liked that little saying of Moss's and wanted to put that in wiki, which I have.
 

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Thank you Trojina. I have no intention of just dropping these things here and abandoning. I have been spending some time today and yesterday learning more about Yijing, continuing the conversation, and meditating on what it all means to me. I am in the process of writing it all down and deciding how much to share here. I am grateful to find this Oracle and community around it. I have found very significant answers for ALL of my questions, my life in general, and all of humanity really, and I will share what is appropriate in due time, once I have learned and internalized what I can. It's a lot to take in.
 

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Forgive me for (likely) redundant question in this forum, but I am stretched thin in research and prefer not to waste time searching threads for clues just yet. I have a question about citing castings here. It seems to me that "2.3 to 15" is saying the exact same thing as simply "2.3". Is this abbreviation universal as I am so far observing and if so, is the shorter citation format generally accepted and understood by readers here? ...Or am I misunderstanding/jumping to conclusion?
 

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Yes I wasn't meaning you personally were going to abandon anything, too early to tell, my post was general. I was thinking in general about the best way to get optimum feedback for posters in SR. I've been posting here for a very long time so I have seen for myself which posts tend to get more responses. Indeed it's such a general post I have copied it to the suggestions box in CC.

Just posting a list of questions like this

"What must I do in order to stay humble?" 39.1.3.5 to 24"How long do we have left to make our changes?" 24.1.2 to 7"Who am I?" 44.2 to 33"Why am I here?" 50.3.4.6 to 7"Is it my part to begin change or to simply wait for cues and flow with the rest?" 21

....because there's a number of questions with no background sometimes won't get much response.

You have a number of 24s here suggesting you return to yourself. You asked "How long do we have left to make our changes ?" do you feel you are asking on behalf of the human race or was the 'our' a smaller group ? I think you have quite a personal answer anyway which is to settle back into your own sphere rather than attempt to prophesy for the whole world...in that way you can stay humble I imagine, as the 39.1.3.5>24 shows
 

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Forgive me for (likely) redundant question in this forum, but I am stretched thin in research and prefer not to waste time searching threads for clues just yet. I have a question about citing castings here. It seems to me that "2.3 to 15" is saying the exact same thing as simply "2.3". Is this abbreviation universal as I am so far observing and if so, is the shorter citation format generally accepted and understood by readers here? ...Or am I misunderstanding/jumping to conclusion?

Hexagram 2 with line 3 changing changes to hexagram 15. That is what you received. This would be written here as 2.3>15.

2.3 would mean the same thing but would be less helpful to readers since they then have to figure what the relating hexagram is. By '2.3' they know you got hexagram 2 line 3 but unless they can quickly calculate change lines in their heads (with this one it is very easy) it's not always easy to see what the relating hexagram is.
 

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Makes sense. Thank you. As a long time user of this site, are you used to technical issues? I am experiencing many. 3 different browsers on two different computers and all of the scripts on these pages hang. When I submit a reply, it hangs until I refresh the page. It also strips out all of my formatting, line breaks, everything and condenses everything I type into plain text without line breaks, even in the "Advanced" editor. I want to post content that is very meaningful to me, but I cannot, for the life of me understand why your posts are pretty but mine are resisting formatting. Is this a common issue here?
 

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Makes sense. Thank you. As a long time user of this site, are you used to technical issues? I am experiencing many. 3 different browsers on two different computers and all of the scripts on these pages hang. When I submit a reply, it hangs until I refresh the page. It also strips out all of my formatting, line breaks, everything and condenses everything I type into plain text without line breaks, even in the "Advanced" editor. I want to post content that is very meaningful to me, but I cannot, for the life of me understand why your posts are pretty but mine are resisting formatting. Is this a common issue here?

It can be at times. I often have trouble reading posts in Internet Explorer which is littered with all sorts of &** gobbledegook.

But for technical issues you need to send a private message to Hilary, the owner of this site. One thing she has suggested to me in the past is to clear my cache...which basically seems to mean deleting cookies. But as far as tech support goes I am probably the least capable person on the entire forum.
 

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Also, if you would write out the word "Hexagram" and then the number it will show up on our computers in blue ink and when people who have subscribed to WikiWing click on it the computer will automatically go to the WikiWing page that talks about what the hexagram means.

Example, instead of posting "hex. 2.3 - 15" write out "hexagram 2.3 > hexagram 15."
 

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ps...one trick that sometimes works while you are waiting to get it sorted is to simply change fonts. That's worked for before, inexplicably.
 
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Trojina you are so kind and patient because I have to admit trying to read through this thread just confused the hell outta me. Thanks for being here on this site.
 

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Patient ? Moi ? No no no one's ever said I'm patient before...I'm the most impatient person on the planet :rofl: but thank you...:bows:
 

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I apologize for the format of this thread. I stumbled in here from elsewhere on the web. I asked my first question via the online reading section and stashed results here to plant myself while I research. I have to say I am in love with I Ching. It's extremely easy and the history is awesome as is my experience and results so far. I settled in and asked about 25 questions last night and this morning. Stuff that is really near and dear and important to me. The answers are beautiful and beautifully simple. I've been journaling everything and want to post my results here for discussion. I can start trying to post journal entries now but something is still glitching out for me on this site. I am going to continue to use this thread to sort out my technical issues first then maybe start a new proper thread for my readings.
 

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I installed FireFox and everything is working now. :rofl:

Formatting controls. Those weren't there before.

I tried everything I could but I was unable to effectively use this site with Chrome, IE or Edge on two different computers. It was driving me batty. :rant:

All features and functionality are only working in FireFox for me though. Surely, this affects a lot of users here.

I'm going to ditch this thread and start again.
 

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I apologize for the format of this thread. I stumbled in here from elsewhere on the web. I asked my first question via the online reading section and stashed results here to plant myself while I research. I have to say I am in love with I Ching. It's extremely easy and the history is awesome as is my experience and results so far. I settled in and asked about 25 questions last night and this morning. Stuff that is really near and dear and important to me.

I think 25 questions is far far too much for anyone to reasonably process in that space of time. That is just my opinion, although it is a pretty well founded opinion. When you say 'it's extremely easy'.....well if it were that easy I don't think this forum would have been quite so busy for the last 16 years or so. I mean yes sometimes the answers are just quite clear and you understand them intuitively...and then other times you don't.


I tried everything I could but I was unable to effectively use this site with Chrome, IE or Edge on two different computers. It was driving me batty.

All features and functionality are only working in FireFox for me though. Surely, this affects a lot of users here

Hilary is the only one who can help you and it is important to tell her as there may be glitches she doesn't know about. Send her a private message.
 

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Also, if you would write out the word "Hexagram" and then the number it will show up on our computers in blue ink and when people who have subscribed to WikiWing click on it the computer will automatically go to the WikiWing page that talks about what the hexagram means.

Example, instead of posting "hex. 2.3 - 15" write out "hexagram 2.3 > hexagram 15."

The automatic links to WikiWing are indeed lovely, but Hexagram Search is, also...

Hilary, could you explain a bit what Hexagram Search needs in order to work? Does it rely on specific notation(s), does it miss things that aren't in that notation, how flexible is it?

If there's a choice to be made between facilitating links to WikiWing, and facilitating Hexagram Search, I'd personally land on the side of Hexagram Search. A person can always visit WikiWing manually, but if Hexagram Search can't find things, there aren't many other good options (which is why Hexagram Search was created in the first place).
 

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