Real Life Experiences with 37.1

[kumarsahab]

Hi.

Does anyone here recall getting 37.1 in any of their readings? If so - could you please tell me what you understood of it in retrospect.

I have received the same line from the Yi - for two completely different questions - within the space of a week. The Yi is obviously trying to tell me something.

The problem is that there are so, so many completely different interpretations of this line out there. And I mean one has nothing to do with the other. Except for the last part "regret/remorse disappears". That remains the same.

One says the 'house' is protected, the other seems to mean that I need to establish protection for the 'house'. The former means that everything is taken care of while the latter urges action.

Then there's Wilhelm - "firm seclusion within the family". What could that even mean? To stay apart from the others in the group.

Looking forward to hear from you.

Kumar

 

[sooo]

37 itself can refer to many things: a literal family, a clan or organization, even oneself as a complete entity, i.e.
"For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body..." 1 Cor 12:12

To be firmly embedded in ones family is not a fault. Every member of a family serves a specific function, has a specific place at the table, just as an eye is not at the bottom of ones foot, nor a foot on the side of ones head. There is clear form and order to a well functioning family. If that order is not firmly established and upheld and by every member, the family becomes dysfunctional. It's important to hold to that order from within the family.

 

[ginnie]

I'd like to second what Soooo was saying above about rules and order within the family or organization. Every family or organization assigns roles to its members and has various rules to follow. Line 37.1 makes reference to this. Sometimes the rules of a company, for example, specify what can or cannot be done, or how much various services will cost the customer.

 

[Liselle]

• My cat (bless her) towards the end of her life was soiling in the house. The vet thought it was psychological, since she did also use her litter box, and she seemed to only do this while I was asleep at night or out of the house. I asked Yi about it, and got 37.1 ("With barriers there is a home, regrets vanish"). I started putting her in a large pet crate at night and when I was out (not a tiny carrier, a large crate on top of a table so she could see around, and with her food, water, small litter pan, and bed). There was no more soiling.
  
  I think in that case it sort of meant both things you mentioned, Kumarsahab. That if I established protection, then the home would be protected. There was something I had to do, but doing that one thing would be enough and I could stop worrying about it. (Of course, it did take some time of not having more incidents to realize it was a complete solution.)
  
  Maybe it also meant, from my cat's point of view, that she felt more secure in the crate when I wasn't available to her? Me being away from her had never bothered her before, in her many years of life, but I suppose we all can develop insecurities in our old age, cats included . (This last idea is definitely a reach - I'm obviously much more sure about the crate protecting my own home than I am about reading my kitty's mind.)
  
  
• I have a Twitter, which I never use. But one time I did use it, and then immediately regretted it (social media makes me nervous). I deleted the tweet, but was wondering if the person had already seen it before I deleted it. Yi gave me 37.1 > 53.
  
  After reading some information on the Internet, I found out you have to click on a separate tab in Twitter to see tweets people send you. I think 37.1 meant that having to click on the tab is a "barrier," which the recipient had not crossed. It also fits in with the relating hexagram, 53, Gradual Progress - the person hadn't gotten that far yet or taken the time. That one is more like your first option - the home is protected without having to do anything (other than deleting the tweet, of course).
  
  
• Got 37.1 along with lines 4 and 6 when asking about a phone call that had not gone well. I had called a friend to ask how something had gone that day. He was very short with me, almost to the point of hanging up on me. I thought 37.1 meant that he didn't want to talk about it, so he protected himself by being kind of rude (his "barrier"). The reading helped me understand his point of view. It was a touchy subject, and I should allow him his reaction and not be upset by it.
  
  
• I asked about taking on some work on a planned day off. I got 37.1.2.4.6 > 28. I thought 37.1 here meant it would be better for me if a scheduled day off stayed that way, rather than being subject to "constant renegotiation." (The idea of "constant renegotiation" is from Hilary's book.)
  
  
• I had bought something called a "thermal blanket," a large, very thin sheet of mylar (plastic). I was ENTIRELY unfamiliar with this, but I thought (mistakenly) that it would somehow produce heat and keep the thing inside it warm. I tested it by sitting on it in the car one winter's day, without turning on the car heater. It had no effect at all. I asked Yi about it, and got 37.1 > 53. After learning more about these thermal blankets, it turns out they don't produce heat on their own, or even by sitting on them (I guess I thought the pressure would activate something which would produce heat ). They work by trapping your own warmth if you wrap the sheets close around you . So what 37.1 meant was that the mylar would be a "barrier" which would allow a snug-ish "home" to eventually form around you, using your own trapped warmth.

 

[kumarsahab]

Lisa - thank you for your very insightful reply. You do get this line a lot!!!

Sooo and Ginne - thank you for your feedback too. It could be that the Yi is telling me to maintain my self discipline, prioritize etc. ie keep my system (mind, body and parts thereof) in order and shape. And then things would just take care of themselves.

 

[kafuka]

I got 37.1>53 when asked How will the relationship progress if I stay with my bf? I was depressed, questioning my sexuality and saw the reading as auspicious for the relationship so I hoped the same sex attraction will pass and it'll turn out fine between us. Now, 10 months later, I'm more or less ready to come out and break up with him. What's happened since I cast the I Ching is that my attraction to women grew stronger and I gradually accepted that I'm not straight (53?), my questioning put a barrier between us and I distanced myself from him (37.1?). (Just for the reference, I also asked What will happen if we stay just friends? and got 42 unchanging).

 

[anemos]

Hi.

Does anyone here recall getting 37.1 in any of their readings? If so - could you please tell me what you understood of it in retrospect.

My understanding for this line is similar to what has been said already here. For me was about setting boundaries and examine and resetting them.

The metaphor of " breaking the child's will" where i take the child as new comer that has to find a way to fit in the already existing system, highlights , in some ways that resetting.

Looking at other life experiences and try to see them through Yi's lens, this line always reminds me the temporary " families" we had to form or be part of them in the girl guides team. Sometimes I was a "child", in the training courses, others a "parent" ( camps etc) yet the idea is the same. Those boundaries was extremely important especial when the gathering involved people never met before so there was a constant of behavior and rapport.

 

[anemos]

my questioning put a barrier between us and I distanced myself from him (37.1?).

we were cross posting.

Imo, its more about connecting that distancing - the "barrier" I mean. Distancing from your boyfriend could be the results of the creation of your "family" but not the initial advice per se. Having realize your needs regarding you sexual preferences an re- organization is required. There still might be a place for him in your life but it depends on the "new family" you wish to make ( inner or outer)

 

[kumarsahab]

Thank you for your inputs everyone.

I think I am leaning a little towards the "firm seclusion within the family" interpretation by Wilhelm. And even more literally than he would have cared to.
Of course, here "family" refers to any group - from Kafuka and her boyfriend to Lisa and her cat. I feel like it is about being separated - while still being together in a unit - and I think I see how it makes sense in my questions too.

Nevertheless, I look forward to more inputs from your end.

Take Care

 

[anemos]

Thank you for your inputs everyone.

I think I am leaning a little towards the "firm seclusion within the family" interpretation by Wilhelm. And even more literally than he would have cared to.
Of course, here "family" refers to any group - from Kafuka and her boyfriend to Lisa and her cat. I feel like it is about being separated - while still being together in a unit - and I think I see how it makes sense in my questions too.

Nevertheless, I look forward to more inputs from your end.

Take Care

Care to elaborate a bit more your pov ? I don't fully understand what you mean by "separated". Do you mean retain our individuality or something else ?

 

[kumarsahab]

Hi Anemos.

Thank you for all of your inputs.

I didn't want to get into the specifics of my questions - but let me try and elaborate nonetheless.

My first question was about a business conflict within my extended family. I actually received a 37.1.4>33 in that case. Here my Mum and I have completely socially cut ourselves off from the family so "firm seclusion within the family" makes almost perfect literal sense in that case.
Of course, line 4 seems a lot more 'positive' so fingers crossed for a happy ending. But that is not the point of this discussion.

My second question was about "finding love". Once again, here what seems to be happening is that I have -very clearly and coldly - cut myself off from my overbearing friends and family who have made it their life's mission to set me up with someone (and its not the "fun dating" here in India, I'm talking "arranged marriages" and the works). Cut off in the sense that made it clear that I am not interested in their help in this specific issue. So once again - the "firm seclusion within the family".

Of course, I could very well be projecting these explanations to fit my problems - but I hope you get the sense where I am going with this.

I continue to look for inputs and experiences from everyone.

 

[anemos]

I'm sorry didn't meant to push you reveal personal issues but thanks for sharing , I understand better what you mean. Yes, you set your standards and if the other family members can't respect it or have other opinions about them, sometimes you need to separate your self with them... this is why i said earlier its the by-product of your effort to built your family- inner or outer. I had to cut ties with some relatives too that if there was not the blood relationship I wouldn't want them in my cycle of friends or people i relate with them... there are some of them that their dishonesty and devious actions is something i can't tolerate. Its more safe to be away from them although cutting roots isn't not always pleasant.

I hope, those people who really wish to keep in touch with, accept your "family" and for you to make a 'family' you can live well within it.

best wishes !

 

[kumarsahab]

No problems. Maybe I should have given some context in the first place.

But the problem with this interpretation still seems to be that even Wilhelm's explanation for his interpretation "Firm seclusion within the family" is not what we are literally making it out to be here. For him its about disciplining a child and what not - that's altogether another tangent.

Anyhow - we must remember, these are just interpretations - and we are mere mortals...so....

 

[anemos]

I read it differently. Seclusion not as isolation , cut ties iow, but clear border/rules for the reason other posters also talked about... What use can have the Seclusion/isolation ?

When we are developed from the fetus at the beginning most of cell are neutral and then they 'change" to build the body. Everything we see around us, we can brake it down to smaller and smaller units, well-defined.

yes, Wilhelm's words are an interpretation and I find taking literally the "discipline a child" its quite restrictive, while taking it as a metaphor it expands more. Hope you see that I don't try to persuade you, just interest on different insights.

Thanks for the exchange.

 

[dancingfox]

I got this line a couple of years ago when I asked the Yi about finding my way into the family of my partner. So in my case, I got quite a literal answer ^^

I was going through a difficult time back then and wanted to get straight about that with my new in-laws. My partner didn't think it was necessary to be that straight forward towards his parents but it didn't sit well with me.

So I asked the Yi if speaking up would be a good idea receiving 37.1 -> 54.

Against my own impulse to speak up I left the decision in the hands of my partner. He choose to not tell them straight away. Eventually I got to know his parents very well and currently we have a warm and open bond with each other.

Me and my partner both needed to mature in our relationship, and in the process I found my place within the family, but it took a couple of years.

Hope this helps!

 

[kumarsahab]

Dancingfox. Thank you.

Your answer does fortify my interpretation before - the one given by Wilhelm - "firm seclusion within the family, regrets disappear". Before he goes off into that whole "child disciplining" tangent. I still don't know what that is all about.

The only difference I notice is that in both my cases, there was this element of voluntary seclusion / separation. In your case it seems to be like it was forced on you. But nonetheless, that does not bring that much of a change to the whole interpretation.

 

[dancingfox]

The only difference I notice is that in both my cases, there was this element of voluntary seclusion / separation. In your case it seems to be like it was forced on you.

It was against my own judgement at that time, but certainly out of my own free will.

In the end, I felt it was not up to me what to tell or not to tell his folks. I respected his decision, since it was his family and therefore it was his call to make. I didn't feel like I was a real part of the family yet, we were only dating for a couple of months at that time.

These days his folks know what the problem was back then, (financial backlash), I just didn't want them to think that I was trying to take advantage of their son in any way. Through the years I had alot of opportunity to prove them my trustworthiness. All of us get along just fine now.

Btw, today is our 5th year anniversary

 

[Liselle]

Happy anniversary, Dancingfox!