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she is angry quite angry for what I did. the last time this happened I took 2months and a half writing an email weekly mentioning our friendship the thing here is this time we were closer to a relationship than a friendship and I commit the error of:This person seems scared of you. Try and keep to one clear question at a time on your thread and explain first what your relationship with them is.
Then ask, "how should I behave or relate toward them?"
And "what do I need to understand about our relationship at present"
recover her as as in recover the relationship but given the events I can see why I needed to change my view about her (51.3) if I were to go after her I would simply would be blindly believing her deception...I guess I'm not really sure what your reading is here - what is your question and what is the Yi's response? You mention, 'what does she feel towards me' and then you share with us 51.2 and 51.2.3.5, and 51.5, 63.2, 51.3 ... and later 4.3 ??? so I'm not really sure what's going on. And what is BPD? And what does it mean, to 'recover her'? You make it sound like she's a damaged hard drive you're trying to recover data from.
Okay, so it seems that the Yi gave you a very clear answer - that regardless of how she 'feels' towards you this is not a relationship you should pursue. Is that what you get from it too?I can see why I needed to change my view about her (51.3) if I were to go after her I would simply would be blindly believing her deception...
I think you havent read that I have opened my eyes. :/ but I couldnt see anything of this because I didnt realize that she doesnt have a have a single love interest funnily I received there was a person going out of the triangle, not sure why, if I was already out the last time i got this she had a fight her ex,and she blocked him,but maybe it was a prediction that by contacting her someone would be getting out of a triangle 'relationship'.Either way, it's not worth the amount of effort if there isn't commitment and respeting that friends arent lovers@moss elk
already put a huge amount of effort to helping you but you haven't heard him
so it is a bit annoying to see you going on and on trying to get new replies
Iching only said I could obtain contact with her (51.2) if I would wait a week and dont contact her.Okay, so it seems that the Yi gave you a very clear answer - that regardless of how she 'feels' towards you this is not a relationship you should pursue. Is that what you get from it too?
How people feel 'towards' us is only a small part of the equation - and in of itself does not mean you will have a healthy, useful, joyful, healing relationship.
but I couldnt see this because I didnt realize that as many people she treat she simply doesnt have a single love interest funnily I received there was a person going out of the triangle not sure why if I was already out the last time i got this she fought with someone else but maybe was a prediction by contacting her either way it's not worth the amount of effort if there isn't commitment and respeting that friends arent lovers
ut you should (51.3) gain better view of the situation (51.3) because you are going to cause you enter in a action-reaction circumstance (51.5) I dont think it ever replied me how she felt about me only adviced me what to do about her. but I think that if I didnt gain awareness that she simply cant maintain a faithful/stable relationship with a single person she wont do it with one either. because once she started talking to her friend while also talking to someone else and at the same time she tried to take advantage of me asking for money for studying in a place she only studies because she only wanted to feel identified with the person that suggested it, probably with whoever she was dating (this made me angry I was just waiting to see if she truly wanted the gift I wasnted to give her or just money and I gave her no money) events led me to go to her home subconciously prepared to tell her mother about the time we dated and how I loved her but apparently she lied her mother to avoid feeling guilt(self indulgence a symotomp from BPD,which she doesnt acknoledge she has and even tries to bond with people who smoke drugs just to feel identified with someone I cant do anything to help her maybe going her mother's house but is it my issue even I appareciate her?)
I have edited it, I had deleted some lines and I had re-written over lines I should have continuedYou need to begin using punctuation, full stops. Your posts are unreadable because it's a jumble of words with no full stops.
This makes no sense at all.....it's just a jumble of words
Can you see there are no full stops so it's just gibberish.
That is very very hard to read and so at the very least if you want replies you need to start to make actual sentences.
Events led me to go to her home subconciously prepared to tell her mother about the time we dated and how I loved her but apparently she lied her mother to avoid feeling guilt(self indulgence a symotomp from BPD, which she doesnt acknowledge nor has treatment for, she even tries to bond with people who smoke drugs just to feel identified with someone, then do the same I cant do anything to help her maybe going her mother's house but is it my issue even I appareciate her?)
what would you do?
I KNOW WHAT ICHING SAYS. but i would be in an illusion that I would recover my treasure. but listen she is dating someone else she wouldnt change her mind as she is dating the same person after some weeks so why would unblocking me change anything? I had given a 60.5 the last time 51.2 happened I dont want limitations because she desires. the time i got 51.2 she was asking me to not make this other person go away because reasons... and that isnt recovering my treasure that is being limited to someone's fucked up boundaries. now if I can work my own way I could discover my own path. I believe that maybe 51.3 wanted to change my point of view about her which seemed that many people are after her now I know what i should I do i received 61.5 and 2.2.5>29 when asked what should I do to contact her motherTopher, are you reading your own posts? Even without the Yi, It seems really clear to me what you shouldn't be doing, and there are so many red flags here I don't know where to begin.
And even the Yi says, "shock comes with adversity .... a hundred thousand times one loses possessions, TO NOT GIVE CHASE!" And 'the shock whether going or coming IS TROUBLE!" Between what you've said about you and this person, and what the Yi is saying here, I'm not sure what more needs to be made clear for you.
Topher, I won't engage with you any more after this. I think that you have cast yourself as this seriously damaged young woman's knight in shinning armor, which says a a lot about your own 'fu_ked up boundaries'; and that's what you should be focusing on.I KNOW WHAT ICHING SAYS. but ... fu_ked up boundaries.
I used iching to solve my issues from my karma apparently I couldnt she loved me at one period but she changed her mind somehow... also I dont see as a knigt with shinning armor there is a different betwen believing you are their only solution and being someone who is willing to help with the solutionTopher, I won't engage with you any more after this. I think that you have cast yourself as this seriously damaged young woman's knight in shinning armor, which says a a lot about your own 'fu_ked up boundaries'; and that's what you should be focusing on.
Besides that, you are using the Yi as a slot machine -- you think that if you keep pulling the handle enough times, it will give you the answer you want: where you get to swoop in, save the maiden from the dragon, and ride off into the sunset - together - happily ever after. But unfortunately for you (or maybe fortunately?), the Yi, and the Universe, don't work like that.
But given these very same bad boundaries of yours (and no one else's), I have no reason to think you're going to listen to me.
Best ....
Hmm, maybe because you're not paying any heed to what the Yi is telling you, and instead you're fishing for what you want the answer(s) to be? That's the best I can figure.I dont get why it gave me all these answers with the same question they are quite different
I reached this conclusion.Hmm, maybe because you're not paying any heed to what the Yi is telling you, and instead you're fishing for what you want the answer(s) to be? That's the best I can figure.
58.4 she will contact me. that is always the line for someone contacting one in the future.
Well I mean the last time I got contact with her 58.3,4 I got to talk to her the last time I got 58.4 was before sending the email that I thought would be the last one and I received a response from her. I wasnt even asking about the email just what she felt instead iching answered I would get an approach from her in the future Anyway I have never asked about if she will contact me also 58.4 could be interpreted in a different way I know but in the readings I have had they meant an approach from someone in the future also based on the translation http://www.iching123.com/58_text.htmNo, it is not.
Not at all.
You really, truly, do not know what you are talking about. You made that up, and believe it! It is like you tell yourself things, instead of perceiving things.
Maybe a native Spanish speaker can get through to you in a way no one else here has been able to?
But then again, No means No.
And you do not seem to comprehend "No's"
So, maybe no.
Ok I might have confused 58.3 with 58.4 they have similar translation but I know that I received 58.3.4 when I got contact with her probably was 58.3 maybe I should have recalled I had gotten 58.4 days ago and try to mediate between her and I but like I said I had asked this a while ago I was focused in my job and I had even forgotten I had even sent her anything and I didnt recall the iching's reply until i wrote this post.. anyway if there is contact I will let you know
anyway if there is contact I will let you know.
Yes, you were confused and obviously that has not changed. So, I think this is what the Yi is telling you:Ok I might have confused
I dont want to fix her as and I have never wanted to fix anyone people arent objects, also people should seek help when they see their issue pluxYes, you were confused and obviously that has not changed. So, I think this is what the Yi is telling you:
"Yes, you are addicted emotionally and sexually to this damage person. You are also are damaged, maybe even more damaged than she is. You keep lying to yourself and others, saying that all you want to is help or 'fix' her, but that's not true. You keep manipulating the Yi to give you the answers you want to hear. So go ahead: keep being involved with her, call her, text her, have sex with her, take drugs with her, talk to her mom, try to fix her; especially since no one here can convince you otherwise."
I think that's the best advice I can offer you right now.
Clarity,
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