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My question that I posed to the iching read like this:
Friday 6:58pm ET [home address] Livingroom 12/6/2019
"Dearest and Treasured I Ching,
I am writing to you this evening to ask for help with my feelings for [name of person I like]. I am unsure if she is even open to me in that way because of some of the things she does. One minute I feel like she is interested and the next its a little hazy. What can I do to make me and her a possibility of seeing each other as more than friends. I really want this to work out. Thank you for your answer. <3
Love, Mia"

After I cast the yarrow stalks and counted them, I received "Ta Kuo" . It's the first time I've ever received a kua without moving lines, so I'd like some clarification on that. As well as how you would interpret the hexagram in relation with my question. I'm not sure if it's saying that I should hang back from being so "obvious" about liking her, or if there is something different I should be doing or if it's saying she is interested but I need to take it easy because I'd otherwise scare her off. Please advise.
Thank you!
 
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Just so I'm clear, you asked ....
What can I do to make me and her a possibility of seeing each other as more than friends.
... and the response you got was 28 unchanging. Is that correct?

Assuming that's right, with hex. 28 we have a sense of things being too much, and this is shown in the imagery in two ways:

* one is an image of a lake where its waters have become so high, that they now cover (and could potentially drown and kill) the now-submerged trees

* the other image is of a home's supporting ridgepole becoming so heavy and bent, that we are not sure if it will support it's load, so we are told that it might be good to have an escape plan, that it is 'worthwhile to have somewhere to go.'​

So perhaps - and I'm just putting out some ideas here, and you can decide if they are true or helpful or not - you're emotions towards this person have becone too much - maybe out of proportion to how much you really know each other, or how much time you've spent together, or maybe not in proportion to how this person is feeling towards you.?

One thing to realize is that the Yi is not in the business of changing other people's feelings, so it is not going to 'make' her like or love you. On the other hand, you did ask about what you can do, so perhaps the advice here is you need to be a bit more gentle, to relax- and be less sure or overbearing (like a ridgepole ready to snap!) in your attitude towards this person.

You can really only explore the possibilities and be open to them, which might include the possibility that they don't want to have a romantic relationship with you (or it could mean that you relax enough so this person can get to know you and decide for themselves what kind of relationship they want to have).

So, is it possible for you to approach this person in this way - which can be really hard to do when our feelings and emotions (lake above), have flooded out our sense of gentle exploration (wind/wood below)?

Best, D.
 
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Ta Kuo is hexagram 28 unchanging.

Be glad you got an unchanging hexagram,
they are the simplest (along with single line readings) to comprehend.

The reading does not encourage a romantic relationship here, as you desire.

28's Image advises the jun zi to stand alone and undaunted, to withdraw from the world without sorrow.
Overall 28 can be about too much, too much stress/pressure/intensity on a structure that could collapse.
 

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Just so I'm clear, you asked .... ... and the response you got was 28 unchanging. Is that correct?

Assuming that's right, with hex. 28 we have a sense of things being too much, and this is shown in the imagery in two ways:

* one is an image of a lake where its waters have become so high, that they now cover (and could potentially drown and kill) the now-submerged trees​
* the other image is of a home's supporting ridgepole becoming so heavy and bent, that we are not sure if it will support it's load, so we are told that it might be good to have an escape plan, that it is 'worthwhile to have somewhere to go.'​

So perhaps - and I'm just putting out some ideas here, and you can decide if they are true or helpful or not - you're emotions towards this person have becone too much - maybe out of proportion to how much you really know each other, or how much time you've spent together, or maybe not in proportion to how this person is feeling towards you.?

One thing to realize is that the Yi is not in the business of changing other people's feelings, so it is not going to 'make' her like or love you. On the other hand, you did ask about what you can do, so perhaps the advice here is you need to be a bit more gentle, to relax- and be less sure or overbearing (like a ridgepole ready to snap!) in your attitude towards this person.

You can really only explore the possibilities and be open to them, which might include the possibility that they don't want to have a romantic relationship with you (or it could mean that you relax enough so this person can get to know you and decide for themselves what kind of relationship they want to have).

So, is it possible for you to approach this person in this way - which can be really hard to do when our feelings and emotions (lake above), have flooded out our sense of gentle exploration (wind/wood below)?

Best, D.
Thank you for your detailed response! I could have phrased it better in terms of "making them" but I definitely moreso meant was there something I could do, as opposed to forcing my wants onto someone else. I can be a little heavyhanded when it comes to people I'm attracted to, and I guess the I Ching knows this as well hehe. I'll keep in mind to be more easy about things and just step back to give them space to decide for themselves. It was very helpful in understanding more of what I should do (or not in this case).
 

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Ta Kuo is hexagram 28 unchanging.

Be glad you got an unchanging hexagram,
they are the simplest (along with single line readings) to comprehend.

The reading does not encourage a romantic relationship here, as you desire.

28's Image advises the jun zi to stand alone and undaunted, to withdraw from the world without sorrow.
Overall 28 can be about too much, too much stress/pressure/intensity on a structure that could collapse.
When you have an unchanging hexagram does that mean you only read the main body of the description and not the individual lines? I also thank you for your input. I will respect the I Ching's answer and back off. Even if it's a bummer, I had a feeling anyways that there was nothing there.
 

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When you have an unchanging hexagram does that mean you only read the main body of the description and not the individual lines?

That's right,
just read the Image & Judgement.
 
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Again, cross-post with Moss Elk
When you have an unchanging hexagram does that mean you only read the main body of the description and not the individual lines? I also thank you for your input. I will respect the I Ching's answer and back off. Even if it's a bummer, I had a feeling anyways that there was nothing there.
The conventional or usual way is to not look at the lines when you have an unchanging hexagram. You would know best, but the advice here might be to back off totally, or to back off so you are taking a more gentle, thoughtful approach. But if the attractions is not mutual .... well ....
 

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