relationship

[laurany]

24.6>22 relationship

dear all,
I have just asked the IC how to get back with my boyfriend, what would be better to do. I have left him two years ago after 10 years to find myself (I was soooo young).
I got 24.6>22.
Is it as straightforward as it seems?
What is the suggestion? continue with your life?
Please help especially with the meaning of 22
Thank you very much to you all

 

[Trojina]

dear all,
I have just asked the IC how to get back with my boyfriend, what would be better to do. I have left him two years ago after 10 years to find myself (I was soooo young).
I got 24.6>22.
Is it as straightforward as it seems?
What is the suggestion? continue with your life?
Please help especially with the meaning of 22
Thank you very much to you all

24.6 changes to 27 not 22. To me it seems a clear answer that the time for getting back with your boyfriend is past. Its too late for that, it no longer looks like an option...time to go look for new relationships, new nourishment (27) not what you ate 2 years ago.

Others may see it differently

 

[laurany]

after this question I have asked to the IC : "what is the next step to take in my life?" and I got 10.3>49.
I know my questions are very generic, but I am very lost at the moment about all the circumstances in my life, I feel it is a very rich moment, full of possibility but with little direction.
A sensible impartial interpretation would help.

 

[laurany]

Thank you Trojan,
it is hard,
I have lived these two years as a part of our relationship.

 

[Trojina]

Thank you Trojan,
it is hard,
I have lived these two years as a part of our relationship.

not sure what you mean by that, don't understand the sentence ?

Anyway please don't take my understanding of 24.6 as the ultimate truth about your relationship...there will be so much I don't know. Talk to him thats your best bet if you want the truth

 

[Trojina]

after this question I have asked to the IC : "what is the next step to take in my life?" and I got 10.3>49.
I know my questions are very generic, but I am very lost at the moment about all the circumstances in my life, I feel it is a very rich moment, full of possibility but with little direction.
A sensible impartial interpretation would help.

I guess 10.3 might be a warning for you to be very careful. It shows a man who thinks he can see when he can't, treads the tigers tail, gets bitten. Be careful not to bite off more than you can chew or put yourself in situations where you can't cope. 10.3 asks you to take a really realistic view of yourself, to watch your next step, to be cautious. perhaps there are some rather unpredictable influences around right now so i think this line warns you not to risk too much without being sure of your own capabilities.

Whatever you thinkof doing next, take care, don't be rash...and consider what is this tiger you need to be so careful of ? What or who do you need to take care around..Right now you probably think you understand things better than you really do so take care


hey i don't want to make you paranoid.....but you get the picture...watch that tiger !

It doesn't have to be anything external. I've had 10.3 for example when i was less healthy than i thought, did too much, got bitten(sick) through over estimating strength so it can be stuff like that. Whatever the tiger represents needs respect and caution..and in 10.3 thats currently in short supply

Hilary just did a blog post on hex 10. its in Exploring Divination section

 

[laurany]

What I mean is with "I have lived these two years as a part of our relationship." is that I have never really cut ties with him, I have always thought I would go back with him once I had other things in my life sorted out, So now it is hard to see that the risk I have taken by putting distance between us, is manifesting as loss of him.
Of course Your interpretation was mine too, fitting well with what I see happening between us.
Do you have any insight on my second question? I will not take it as the truth, promise.
(P.S.forgive my convoluted sentences I am not a native English speaker)

 

[laurany]

just saw the reply

 

[Trojina]

lol we are crossing posts...well its pretty hard to put relationships on hold and expect to be able to go back to them. The other person may want to move on...and maybe it really is time for you to move on...?

I wrote about the 10.3 a bit further up. The 10.3 might also refer to taking too much for granted, like expecting the relationship to remain while you did other things...not blaming you at all.(sorry it sounds like it i know)..its just a kind of wake up call perhaps, you know keep your wits about you, don't expect things to fall the way you want right now

 

[laurany]

ok, I see thank you.
My last question to the IC: what is this tiger I have to beware of?".
I got 45.4>8.
Can I read it as a suggestion to avoid to be at the center of things? to involve myself too intensely into relationships? a suggestion not to look for an answer to all my questions in a relationship with someone else because this could leave me without a center?

 

[laurany]

we are crossing posts indeed.

 

[rodaki]

laurany

you're obviously going thru a lot of changes . . are you sure about your hexagrams?
as Trojan said, 24.6 leads to 27, so does 22.3 . . (22.3 would sound more encouraging to be true, while 24.6 is certainly more urgent- as Trojan said already talking is a good idea)
10.3 leads to 1, for a changing 3rd line to lead to 49 you'd have to have 17 as your primary (both tosses have you following a greater thing and there are dangers in both but 10.3 cautions you to be lightfooted and focused, in 17.3 you can be more certain but also more resolute in your approach)
maybe you'd like check again your tosses and check back with us? . . although, generally speaking, all of your -possible- answers are encouraging you to keep your focus, be attentive and reach out to your best . .

 

[laurany]

Dear Rodaki,
I am sure about the cast hex I am less sure about the transformed hex. So I guess that my answers would be 24.6>27 and 10.3>1?

 

[Trojina]

ok, I see thank you.
My last question to the IC: what is this tiger I have to beware of?".
I got 45.4>8.
Can I read it as a suggestion to avoid to be at the center of things? to involve myself too intensely into relationships? a suggestion not to look for an answer to all my questions in a relationship with someone else because this could leave me without a center?

Well you can read it in whatever way it makes sense to you. I personally don't use this method of questioning the answer because i think one can get lost...I also think one probably knows what the tiger is already.. i mean it could just be life in general. Also to me 45.4 is a pretty positive line, i personally can't read it as something avoid being.

However these are my rules for me...you can have any rules you like...luckily for you

 

[laurany]

Thanks for the tip about the questioning, it makes sense and it reflects this sense of "spinning around" I had while trying to interpret the answer.

 

[rodaki]

after this question I have asked to the IC : "what is the next step to take in my life?" and I got 10.3>49.
I know my questions are very generic, but I am very lost at the moment about all the circumstances in my life, I feel it is a very rich moment, full of possibility but with little direction.
A sensible impartial interpretation would help.

10.3 to 1 seems to be about where you are right now dear laurany, alone behind the tiger, getting your trails all upside down, but i wonder what is it that really gets you shaky here . . ? is the tiger that frightens you or the shadows on the wall? in 10.3 you might get your signals all messed up and miss the animal you're following (not a good idea in the jungle )

and then 45.4 to 8, hmm . . doesn't sound like a lethal bite . . it actually sounds quite safe keeping close to it

 

[laurany]

close to the tiger? a safe tiger?

 

[rodaki]

lol!

seriously now laurany, i weally don't like fooling people but this seems like a safe tiger to be around . . unless the 45.4 is someone around you two that is distracting you . . why not give this tiger a call, how dangerous can that be?

 

[Trojina]

10.3 to 1 seems to be about where you are right now dear laurany, alone behind the tiger, getting your trails all upside down, but i wonder what is it that really gets you shaky here . . ? is the tiger that frightens you or the shadows on the wall? in 10.3 you might get your signals all messed up and miss the animal you're following (not a good idea in the jungle )

and then 45.4 to 8, hmm . . doesn't sound like a lethal bite . . it actually sounds quite safe keeping close to it

but Dora the point is 10.3 warns of over confidence, of arrogance almost, tripping you up when you least expect it..yet you ask 'i wonder what it is that gets you shaky here ?' She isn't getting shaky at the moment...the advice of 10.3 is to get a bit more shaky, wake up, be cautious. The tiger in 10.3 is real, its no 'shadow on the wall' ..that would be another line altogether, maybe 59.2 or 59.6 or something. 10.3 isn't saying 'there there don't worry theres nothing to worry about' its more like 'will you get a bit worried cos theres a Tiger about and you aren't as smart as you think'.

if any line is a wake up call this one is IMO. I don't think it can be softened too much. because that takes away the central warning in the line...

 

[Trojina]

lol!

seriously now laurany, i weally don't like fooling people but this seems like a safe tiger to be around . . unless the 45.4 is someone around you two that is distracting you . . why not give this tiger a call, how dangerous can that be?

If it was safe to go treading on the tigers tail she wouldn't have got 10.3 she would have got 10.4 (a bit safer)...trying to figure out why you think the Tiger in 10.3 is cuddly ? How dangerous can it be ? Well thats what the biting is about in 10.3....does 10.3 really advise 'c'mon now this isn't dangerous' ! ?

Splutter....you can't declaw the tiger in 10.3 !

Of course i don't think the 10.3 question was about the boyfriend directly, just about next step in life...if it were about the boyfriend any assumptions about the relationship would need to be carefully examined .


(sorry to discuss you laurany as if you were not there... we know you are there really....)

 

[rodaki]

if it's a straightforward answer, then, yes, you are right T . . but maybe the reading reflected laurany's anxiety about how everything seems blurry at this time

Originally Posted by laurany
after this question I have asked to the IC : "what is the next step to take in my life?" and I got 10.3>49.
I know my questions are very generic, but I am very lost at the moment about all the circumstances in my life, I feel it is a very rich moment, full of possibility but with little direction

if so, i think it would mean that there is a road to follow but is being missed thru all the mixed signals laurany is getting, that's why I'm talking about shadows on the wall . . sometimes the tiger is inside us and we don't wanna see it . .

 

[Trojina]

if it's a straightforward answer, then, yes, you are right T . . but maybe the reading reflected laurany's anxiety about how everything seems blurry at this time



if so, i think it would mean that there is a road to follow but is being missed thru all the mixed signals laurany is getting, that's why I'm talking about shadows on the wall . . sometimes the tiger is inside us and we don't wanna see it . .

Oh I get it...you are doing that subtle thinking stuff again eh

Nah i understand, i see what you mean...i think

i guess i feel quite protective of those tigers teeth in 10.3 because these 'sharp' kind of lines lines that bite...they are always very useful to me...like a bucket of cold water over the head..or a threat of a bite on the leg from a tiger...they can save you from yourself. 1.6 does that too. To me 10.3 always feels like being pulled back from stepping in front of a car or something...not a shadow car...a real car....but i can see it could be a shadow car

But your view makes sense to me now too, now you explained it :bows:

 

[Trojina]

laurany

you're obviously going thru a lot of changes . . are you sure about your hexagrams?
as Trojan said, 24.6 leads to 27, so does 22.3 . . (22.3 would sound more encouraging to be true, while 24.6 is certainly more urgent- as Trojan said already talking is a good idea)
. .

Returning to 24.6 I'm wondering about its urgency. Theres several ways to see this line. Some commentaries almost say its simply too late to do what you want to do...and in my personal experience I found this to be so...but others say its more like 'you have to get a move on and do it now or lose out.'

So i was wondering if anyone had that alternative take on it.? If they did the advice to Laurany would be quite different wouldn't it...it would be more like 'if you want to get back with your boyfriend hurry on up...and there would be urgency.

 

[Trojina]

(its due to such uncertainties Laurany that we suggest talking to your ex is also a good idea )

 

[rodaki]

(its due to such uncertainties Laurany that we suggest talking to your ex is also a good idea )

ditto

 

[maremaria]

Well, if it was my reading I would read it "re-examine the reasons you want to return to that relationship "
What is the role of tiger here ? Do I seek safety ? Being in a jungle with that tiger around how best i could choose a company ? Do i need a guide to take me out of the jungle ?

 

[rodaki]

just thought it would be helpful if we had Wilhelm's text here . .

Six in the third place means:
A one-eyed man is able to see,
A lame man is able to tread.
He treads on the tail of the tiger.
The tiger bites the man.
Misfortune.
Thus does a warrior act on behalf of his great prince.

A one-eyed man can indeed see, but not enough for clear vision. A lame man can indeed tread, but not enough to make progress. If in spite of such defects a man considers himself strong and consequently exposes himself to danger, he is inviting disaster, for he is undertaking something beyond his strength. This reckless way of plunging ahead, regardless of the adequacy of one's powers, can be justified only in the case of a warrior battling for his prince.

i think another good question is whether one sees clearly or not . .

 

[Trojina]

I guess 10.3 might be a warning for you to be very careful. It shows a man who thinks he can see when he can't, treads the tigers tail, gets bitten. Be careful not to bite off more than you can chew or put yourself in situations where you can't cope. 10.3 asks you to take a really realistic view of yourself, to watch your next step, to be cautious.

just thought it would be helpful if we had Wilhelm's text here . .



i think another good question is whether one sees clearly or not . .

yes thats what i thought i was stressing in my post. You think you can see but you can't, think you are in a good position to make decisions, but have you really seen all the factors, inner and outer ?

 

[Trojina]

after this question I have asked to the IC : "what is the next step to take in my life?" and I got 10.3>49.
I know my questions are very generic, but I am very lost at the moment about all the circumstances in my life, I feel it is a very rich moment, full of possibility but with little direction.
A sensible impartial interpretation would help.

Well, if it was my reading I would read it "re-examine the reasons you want to return to that relationship " What is the role of tiger here ? Do I seek safety ? Being in a jungle with that tiger around how best i could choose a company ? Do i need a guide to take me out of the jungle ?

Yes if the 10.3 was concerning the relationship it would be a good idea...but the question here was pretty general....so not sure how much the 10.3 applies to the relationship...though we've all assumed it might have something to do with the relationship

Funny I always imagine the Tiger in a zoo rather than the jungle, i'm sweeping the enclosure, the tiger is alseep...and i think its all okay till my broom hits his nose

 

[Trojina]

Though this ain't no joke !


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