Rename trigrams

[Thomas6]

☰天(元、魁)
☱泽
☲至(否、㔻、丕)
☳辰(震、振、辰、阵、陈、东)
☴丰(风、封、豐)
☵兑
☶干(乾、榦)
☷复(覆穴、復、闭)

 

[Liselle]

Thomas, very very few of us will understand that or what you're trying to discuss. Could you explain a little? What are you trying to do?

Here is what Google translate does with it, which doesn't help me understand what you're trying to post about.

 

[Trojina]

Yes what on earth is it all about?

 

[Thomas6]

Ok, I will try my best to express my mind using English.

 

[Thomas6]

As we knows, the meaning of the word "天" is: heaven, sky, god, emperor, top.
The word "元" is same as "兀" in Oracle bone script:
天 can be seperated as top and a people viewed from the front.
元 can be seperated as top and a people viewed from the side.
The meaning of the word "元" is: head, first, beginning, prime, head of a state,
The meaning of the word 魁 is big dipper. 戌 is the symbol of 魁.

 

[Thomas6]

乾、乹、干、榦are the same words in Oracle, meaning dry, dry up, trunk, etc.
so, 天 or 元 is not 干 or 乾. I hope to clarify it.
I try to get a word as the name of a trigram contain all the meaning that the trigram represented to.

 

[Daeluin]

Now, human beings are endowed with the precelestial Breath: they possess it since their birth, by virtue of their father's essence and their mother's blood. However, this Breath grows day after day and night after night, and when the Yang culminates, there is necessarily the Yin. The Yang in the Palace of Qian ☰ moves to the Palace of Kun ☷ . At that time, Qian becomes empty and turns into Li ☲ , and Kun becomes full and forms Kan ☵ . The reason why Li has this name is that is separates itself from its own Yang; and the reason why Kan has this name is that it traps Li's reality.

Cultivating the Tao, Liu Yiming, tl Fabrizio Pregadio

Perhaps the other names too have special meanings?

 

[Thomas6]

Cultivating the Tao, Liu Yiming, tl Fabrizio Pregadio

Perhaps the other names too have special meanings?

Yes, ䷜ and ䷃ are mapped to time "庚申". So, the significance of ䷜ and ䷃ may be similar. The word "兑" can be seperated to "儿" and "㕣". The meaning of "㕣" is "stream blocked by mountains" (䷃?). The meaning of "儿" is "bend to stretch". "兑" is also meaning "锐"(sharp)... In my mind, the word "兑" contain all about the signification of ☵.

 

[Thomas6]

A hexagram include two triagrams. For example，䷵ includes ☳ and ☱.
䷵Gui mei(歸妹): Gone Maid.
☳Zhen/dzien(震): The symbol of Thunder(雷) and East(東), etc.
☱Dui/duei(兑): The symbol of Lake(澤) and West(西), etc.
Chinese people usually describe a hexagram as two triagrams: ䷵ usually Read as "thunder-lake, Gone Maid"(雷澤，歸妹) or "Zhen upper-Dui lower, Gone Maid"(震上兑下，歸妹)in modern times. But actually, ䷵ read as "Dui lower-Zhen upper. Gone Maid "(兑下震上。歸妹) in Chinese ancient times.
I got a ䷵->䷁ in a divination about Chairman Mao. Chairman Mao's name is "澤東" and ䷵ include ☳東 and ☱澤. So, I think I can read a hexagram as two trigrams and the lower first.

Cultivating the Tao, Liu Yiming, tl Fabrizio Pregadio

Perhaps the other names too have special meanings?

So, why I try to rename ☳ as "辰"? First, "震" just meaning "Shake" or "Thunder", but "辰" contains "震" literally. 辰 also meaning "East", "Morning"... and "辰" itself.

Actually, ☳ named as "辰" 3000 years ago.

 

[Thomas6]

☰元(天、魁)
☱睪(澤，皋)
☲至(否、㔻、丕)
☳辰(震、振、辰、阵、陈、东)
☴丰(风、封、豐)
☵兑
☶干(乾、榦)
☷复(覆穴、復、闭)

 

[Daeluin]

I think context can be an appropriate reason to change names. But then we might lose their original significance.

For example, the principles of these hexagrams are associated with the Western Astrological Zodiac, and not actually with the constellations:

䷗ Capricorn​

䷒ Aquarius​

䷊ Pisces​

䷡ Aries​

䷪ Taurus​

䷀ Gemini​

䷫ Cancer​

䷠ Leo​

䷋ Virgo​

䷓ Libra​

䷖ Scorpio​

䷁ Sagittarius​

However, these constellations were named after the seasonal energies before the Precesion of the Equinoxes caused us to realize it wasn't the stars but the seasons that we were tracking.

So these names do actually fit these hexagrams.

For example, Capricorn's symbol is of half a fish, half a goat, as it represent evolution starting from the lowest and going to the highest as one follows the Return.

The Scorpion represents the reactivity of one who embodies the dynamic where everything feels like it is being Stripped Away.

Do we change these names? Do we change the names of the constellations? Do we adopt the Vedic names for the constellations? What is important is that there is a reason to distinguish between them.

The false ever covers up the real with our changes. Perhaps if we change the names of the trigrams, we lose the significance of the alchemical process behind them.

And yet, if I am to present these hexagrams to a western audience, how may I do so with their original names, without changing them to reflect what the western audience is familiar with?