Request for help regarding brother's illness

[tia_bnb]

Hi, Could you please please help with this interpretation. My brother is very ill such that daily activities are tough too...there is no known cure..he has tourettes and blepharospasm and neck problems.. I asked how would the coming year go for him..and got 36.1.6 to 52also asked today how would he handle his illness and got today36.1.2.3.4 to 40 (release) I am really worried and esp I may have to relocate with regard to my job in coming few months and my family may not be able to go...would really appreciate some insight into these readings.I also asked how can my brother get cured permanently and got 39.1 to 63 - does it mean that with small improvements he will be cured...thanks a lot for your help..

 

[ernobe]

36.1.6 to 52 speaks of fundamental renewal. Applying the Nanjing rules, you got an 8 in 36.4, which also speaks of a release of the old. Surprisingly, 36.1.2.3.4 also gives the Nanjing 8 in 36.4, although the strict rules, in case of 4 moving lines, counsel reading the resulting hexagrams' unchanged lines. Turning to 40 reaffirms the release notion, so you could be certain of one thing: in the coming year your brother will be released from his illness (it will not endure the coming year). 39.1 to 63 has Nanjing 8 in 39.2, and combining the two lines shows that a strong remedy will need to be applied, which your brother must valiantly endure, for the renewal of his strength.

 

[tia_bnb]

thank you so much, it's relieving to know that he will be cured of his illness - even though every day is tough for him to endure through this , it is positive news that he will get healed, hopefully we will also find the strong remedy too soon...thanks again and wish you a very Happy new year..

 

[Greenkid]

So sorry to hear about your brother. You might be interested in looking at 'Zero Limits' on Youtube' ........ 'I'm sorry' will also find it. I have just found it as my son is ill and think it well worth trying. Hope he will soon be well again.

 

[tia_bnb]

Thank you, will check it.Also today we consulted an Ayurvedic doctor and he has given a very different analysis of the cause of his issue and given lot of medicines - 8 meds and 2 tonics. Since he is already taking a lot of neuro medicines we are confused, so i requested I ching to advice how would taking his medicines turn out for his health (and basically if he should take those) - got hexagram 1 unchanging..reading the various descriptions I am confused and i think my nervousness is also clouding my being able to read through it could you all please help to understand what does it mean.. your experience and insight would be very helpful ( I am also new to iching)..thanks a lot

 

[Trojina]

Thank you, will check it.Also today we consulted an Ayurvedic doctor and he has given a very different analysis of the cause of his issue and given lot of medicines - 8 meds and 2 tonics. Since he is already taking a lot of neuro medicines we are confused, so i requested I ching to advice how would taking his medicines turn out for his health (and basically if he should take those) - got hexagram 1 unchanging..reading the various descriptions I am confused and i think my nervousness is also clouding my being able to read through it could you all please help to understand what does it mean.. your experience and insight would be very helpful ( I am also new to iching)..thanks a lot

As a newbie or for anyone really regardless of the reading I would advise you to keep your head screwed on with medical readings. Personally I do not think it is good practise in divination to hand out diagnosis or prognosis for good or for ill. One reason is Yi answers from a much wider view point. We see all illness as 'bad' and getting better as 'good' naturally but in my experience it really isn't always like that. I've seen what might be seen as very 'positive' casts for terminal illness for example. From our view point death is not good but from a wider perspective perhaps in that person's journey it is time to move on to another dimension of life.

This doesn't mean that there is no use at all in asking medical questions, I still do, but my advice to you is to hold received interpretations and your own quite loosely. Don't imagine answers are set in stone and do always seek professional advice alongside your divination.

I'm afraid I do not see the way you took ernobe's interpretation as a good thing. You said

thank you so much, it's relieving to know that he will be cured of his illness -

Ernobe doesn't know, I don't know and you don't know either. What is more Ernobe is using quite a different method to interpret your answer to what most people here use. There should be a link at the foot of his post to refer you to his method, seems missing above but I will link you to the threads on it.
Here's one https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?25454-This-system

I think you are going to get really confused if you consult with the intention of using the text to interpret and end up with a bunch of Nanjing rules. If you had asked for a Nanjing reading it would be different but you didn't.

In your latest post you say you are confused and no wonder because you are leaning too heavily on all kinds of not terribly reliable 'remedies' and divinations. That's why I'd urge you to keep head screwed on

Thank you, will check it.Also today we consulted an Ayurvedic doctor and he has given a very different analysis of the cause of his issue and given lot of medicines - 8 meds and 2 tonics. Since he is already taking a lot of neuro medicines we are confused,

Yi aside no wonder you are confused, you are consulting very different systems. You have the health system, ie qualified Drs giving him neuro medicines then you go to an Ayurvedic dr who no doubt charged you a good deal of money to tell you things you have no proof of at all ! And I guess he sold you the remedies for a great deal of money too ?

so i requested I ching to advice how would taking his medicines turn out for his health (and basically if he should take those) - got hexagram 1 unchanging..reading the various descriptions I am confused and i think my nervousness is also clouding my being able to read through it could you all please help to understand what does it mean.. your experience and insight would be very helpful ( I am also new to iching)..thanks a lot

My view is you are better off asking what your best approach is to dealing with your brother's illness. I think you will get clearer answers if you place yourself in the question and afterall this is going to affect your life. So why not ask about whether you do well to go seeking alternative 'cures' or whether you should keep it simple and use the medicine the health service gave you.

I guess the Ayuvedic medicine won't interfere with the Dr's medicine but then again it might so you do need to check with the Dr before he starts using it anyway.

If you use both kinds of medicine you won't know which is affecting him. It's not a good idea to stop taking the prescribed medicine without consulting your Dr.

Anyway I can't attempt these medical readings at the moment just wanted to offer a caution in relying too heavily on people's interpretations on medical readings.

I wrote this since you say you are getting more and more nervous and this isn't helpful to you. I Ching can help you make choices about what to do now, what the best approach is. If you start relying on it to tell you what will happen with your brother's health I think it will disempower you because you hand over your own agency in this. No one can tell you if he will or won't get better except his Drs and even they don't know 100%.

These days in some circles 'alternative' medicines are seen as 'good' and medical treatment as 'bad' and whilst this can be true it can equally be true the other way around. Too many alternative practitioners promise the earth for a huge amount of money when they really don't know the medical facts about conditions.

 

[ernobe]

Of the conditions you listed blepharospasm is the most serious. Judging from the Wikipedia article it sounds like drug treatment or surgery are both of dubious efficacy. But it mentions sensorimotor retraining activities, which may not be as immediate in their effect, but probably over the long term, and with patience and dedication to the treatment, could offer the best hope. Concerning the divination, I agree with Trojina, you should be asking what you should be doing rather than what will happen to your brother.

 

[tia_bnb]

Dear Trojina and Ernobe, thank you for your responses and for being the voice of reason. I was unable to login for a while and respond, but really appreciate your taking the time to help me out..I totally understand where you are coming from, but sometimes the illness does get the better of you and my family has been quite desperate lately - blepharospasm has been definitively very tough and even tourettes otherwise with some symptoms of dystonia. So we cancelled going for this alternative therapy multiple times and then went after multiple references (the ayurvedic Dr. doesnt really charge anyth, except a small amount for meds, and if you get better donate whatever you like) - finally however we decided not to take those medicines, as neuro is always a risky path and the medicines too are hugely problematic. and due to having these long term his nervous system seems a little fragile as any change brings up side effects much sooner than even the doctors can make sense of. On the Allopathic dr. well he has mostly given up, now we seem to know more abt the prob and meds than him and he basically leaves it at the doses and general guidance. Botox also unfortunately my brother didnt respond to.I had asked what should we do so he gets better and had got shock once and radical change one time (dont remember the exact reading) - will cast again and consult. Unfortunately I am really new to Iching and couldn't comprehend those so thought these may be simpler to decipher.In general every day is a tough one, much more for him than for us to see him this way and just hope we will find a way someday soon.Also, with all this, and with the time of my move coming near, i am getting kind of scared to move alone to a new country and asked if I should move, and got 56.3.4 to 23 - i feel it could be that I should strip away from the current place and travel to the new place, however I am not clear on both lines 3 and 4 - does line 3 mean I would not be very safe? and line 4 - i should move I may even settle down there but basically I would not be happy as my family will not be able to move with me (they may get tourist visa for limited stay if they can travel)...Thank you again!

 

[ernobe]

I'm sorry to hear that your brother is not responding to the treatment.

56.3.4 -> 23 shows that in your travel plans your thoughts are on the best interests of your family, but that these will fall apart once you've made the trip. Maybe you are too worried about your brother to think of anything else. Nanjing rules give it as 56.5(8):

The fifth SIX, divided, shows its subject shooting a pheasant. He will lose his arrow, but in the end he will obtain praise and a (high) charge.

which means that your family are supportive of you from the beginning and have you in the highest regard. What could work is if your brother consults the Yi, asking for what will cure him.

 

[tia_bnb]

Thank you, yes it is true that my family is the main reason for me trying to take up an opportunity outside the country - from pov of financial stability, and I am hopeful they would be able to join me. Also, your second statement is true too, they really think this is what I want, and are really trying to be supportive although in their hearts they don't really want me to have to go unless it's a bright future ahead...Will try to convince my brother to do the reading, he is not into it a lot, and then gets fixated on the result, so it's a slightly unpredictable/dangerous road thanks for your help..