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I've met sb new and I'm wondering if he's still sexually attracted to me. We both have busy schedules and it will take some time before we see each other again.

Hexagram 8 line 2 > hexagram 29

I don't understand 29 with romance situations and I see it that he only forms alliances with people within his close circle or that he hasn't formed an inner connection with me yet and it's dangerous and risky.
 
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Well the context is a bit tricky. You meant to ask if he's sexually attracted? Or romantically attracted?

This line is favorable, meaning he's interested in you somewhat, and it's good to persist in this relationship. However, start small. Don't skip step, build up and strengthen your relationship gradually (ex. dont ask for marriage too quickly), or else danger will prevail.
 

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In my opinion, Yi says that relationship should be based on inner connection, not outer - like sex and money and fame etc. That is where the danger comes from - false values and priorities.

8.2 → 29 (Danger), Daniels: Be true to yourself and others will seek you out.
If it is meant to be - it will happen, don't chase him [ and not just for sex either ].
 

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Hmmm.... I think that 8.2 is suggesting there is a special type of union/ connection with this person and you should look beyond petty things like sexual attraction. Maybe it may be friendship - and if so you'll have to accept this.

I hope you don't mind me pointing out - the fact you've asked the question suggests that this guy hasn't displayed satisfactory sexual interest towards you - leading you to feel insecure. Usually men tend to be pretty clear about their intentions... even shy men.

29 I think is pointing to an emotional overload of some sort and you should try to remain calm so that your energy doesn't push him away.
 

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Mooncatcher yes I do mind your sexist remarks. I don't need advise on men. You should read very carefully the question and my commentary very well and stick to what the I Ching says on these hexagrams instead of assuming things. I'm not asking about me but about him. And I'm not asking about any relationship that I want to have. Just stick to the question thanks.

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Hmmm.... I think that 8.2 is suggesting there is a special type of union/ connection with this person and you should look beyond petty things like sexual attraction. Maybe it may be friendship - and if so you'll have to accept this.

I hope you don't mind me pointing out - the fact you've asked the question suggests that this guy hasn't displayed satisfactory sexual interest towards you - leading you to feel insecure. Usually men tend to be pretty clear about their intentions... even shy men.

29 I think is pointing to an emotional overload of some sort and you should try to remain calm so that your energy doesn't push him away.
 
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Altair I meant to write exactly what I wrote, sexual not romantic. Why do you assume differently because I'm a woman?


Well the context is a bit tricky. You meant to ask if he's sexually attracted? Or romantically attracted?

This line is favorable, meaning he's interested in you somewhat, and it's good to persist in this relationship. However, start small. Don't skip step, build up and strengthen your relationship gradually (ex. dont ask for marriage too quickly), or else danger will prevail.
 

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STILL no one answered my question yet. Everyone is telling me how I should be and what I should or should not do. My question is. If SMK was STILL sexually attracted to me. Thanks.
 

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8.2
Sure, there could be a sexual bonding here.
(The 29.2 speaks of a not-so-much-greatness being possible in the situation.)
 

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Moss Elk why in 29 you also read line 2? I never got a line 2 in 29. In the resulting hexagram we only read the commentary which is the judgement or advise. In the primary hexagram we read the changing lines which reveals the overall situation and this always works for me. This is how I interpret a reading.

I see 8:2 as a mutual sexual attraction and with hexagram 29 it's too risky to proceed. This would make sense to me but then I could be wrong. It's a new flirt and a new flirt can mean anything.

Do you see 29 as a trap or a big risk? Or deep feelings?

We're not dealing here with just a boy or a girl but 2 mature successful people who have alot to lose if sth goes wrong. He is a distinguished man who has worked hard to reach the top and achieved much and has made a name for himself in public life and who has alot to lose if his reputation is ruined.

The experts on Hexagram 29 interpret:

Wilhelm/Baynes:The Abysmal repeated. If you are sincere, you have success in your heart, and whatever you do succeeds.

Blofeld: Abyss upon abyss -- grave danger! All will be well if confidence is maintained and a sharp hold kept upon the mind; activities so conducted will win esteem.

Ritsema/Karcher: This hexagram describes your situation in terms of a dangerous situation you cannot avoid. It emphasizes that taking the risk without reserve, the action of Gorge, is the adequate way to handle it. To be in accord with the time, you are told to: venture and fall.

So my dilemma and the reason why I'm asking for second opinions:

Which is it from all of the above? And why on this forum doesn't anyone consider the commentary as the guidance in the relating hexagram, which in my opinion is how it should be done.


So anyone please WHAT is the situation and WHAT is the advise here? I think this is how the I Ching should be interpreted if someone is to appreciate it's guidance.
 
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I apologise if my comment upset you. I did not intend to do so. I agree my remark was presumptuous but a far cry from sexist. Sometimes I find that the answers lie in the questions we ask. (I'm a woman by the way)

You didn't give much insight into your situation to begin with. There are many ways of interpreting a reading.

"I've met sb new and I'm wondering if he's still sexually attracted to me." That was your question.

You're angry that no one is literally answering your question - this is because i ching isn't designed for yes / no answers (even though I ask them sometimes). If one were to go for a literal reading I'd say; yes he is sexually attracted to you, but there's something about your energy that is too pushy. I could be wrong. But that's my take on it.
 

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Hello Mooncatcher, you are right I didn't give much insight. I realized it after I had read everyone's response that my question was maybe not specific enough. I think it's good sometimes if people don't know too much about the situation because they become influenced by the story and sometimes the story is near-sighted and one-sided :) I like to leave it open ended hoping to get a clear objective perspective.

I do appreciate your response thanks!

ps. I had a good laugh when you said you're a woman!
 

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I would suggest the 29 as backdrop hex meaning you both have busy schedules/face the fear

" Just doing all the right things is not enough, if you are not really committed the others will know."
stand by the person and you will know,
29 again, let the waters rise around you,

I think it is saying, don't make a judgement on how he feels about you, let things develop

I know you're not supposed to do this, cuz apparently nowadays in the dating world people are supposed to play these f**king games with each other, but maybe you could ask him how he feels about you and or maybe tell him how you feel.

I find 29 for me usually means I've gotten myself into a situation by "repeating" a mistake and usually it means I didn't take action in some way...
 

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Moss Elk why in 29 you also read line 2? I never got a line 2 in 29.

I read the fan yao because it shares something of a 'character'
with the line in the first hex. So, yes 8.2 is a bonding, but maybe not a super-great-all-you-want-to -accomplish kind, just a small thing.

It feels to me like you are in the midst a bit of a freak out.
(The CAPS AND SUCH, I've been there before.) I hope you get back to asking questions of advice for you soon, because they are generally more helpful with direction and decision making.
 

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Altair I meant to write exactly what I wrote, sexual not romantic. Why do you assume differently because I'm a woman?

Nope I didn't assume, cuz number 8 is usually not about sexual matter that's why I need to double check, cuz a lot of people mixed up these in the oracle.
But if you really meant sexual then yes, he's interested for now. But the Yi is telling you to hold onto him by love not by sex. Or else danger will come. But what kind of danger? It's in the corresponding line 2 of hex 29. I think you are aware of what's the outcome that is bound by sex and not love. You can only attain small things, like hex 29 suggests, which in my guess, is a not very stable relationship and he might find somebody else soon enough
 

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Hi everyone thanks for your input. I'm not in any relationship yet. 8.2 shows my present situation which Moss Elk correctly interpreted (So, yes 8.2 is a bonding, but maybe not a super-great-all-you-want-to -accomplish kind, just a small thing.) This is a new love interest so there is no deep bonding yet. It's just in the introductory stage.

Anyways Hexagram 29 is the important hexagram. In my situation it means it's risky and there's also an element of danger involved to make the plunge with this new romantic interest. This part is true. If I'm confident and realistic and don't get negative and crazy over this then I'll see tangible results. As long as I am sincere with him and feel positive then whatever I do succeeds.
 

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