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Should I commit myself to him? 8.5 - 2

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Hello,
To continue from the previous post, I asked the I Ching, should I commit myself to him? And the answer was 8.5 - 2.
I find 8.5 a confusing line. It seems to say, have the attitude of commitment, and ask for nothing; those who want to join, will join. 2 being receptive rather than active. Any thoughts?
 

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When I asked "what does my highest self want from this relationship?" it was 54.2.4 - 24.
Marrying Maiden - with a hermit's constancy, delaying and marrying later on. Changing to Return. So I guess it means taking a little more time, and meanwhile, coming back in to myself.
 

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Pretty clear, 8.5, you can if you want

But you don't really want do you 54.2.4>24 get back into your own skin (24)and wait for something that feels more right. But if you want to do it 8.5.


A perfect lesson about how we are still completely responsible for our choices and Yi can't make them for us.

The good part is you're very free now to choose as you wish. Yi says that you are free in 8.5 to do as you please although I'd say Yi's opinion, or rather your heart's opinion would be possibly waiting a while for the right person is better
 

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Trojan, thank you for your interpretation, you sound very certain but I don't think I agree. What makes you think 52.2.4 - 24 means I don't want to? I would have thought it means I want to take my time.
Situation is we are apart now, probably unable to be together until spring (he is in Nepal and the border is closed due to the virus) so it would be a good time now for me to do my own thing and wait until the way is clear, rather than either end it or commit.
 

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You wrote you got 54.2.4 not 52.2.4 as you wrote in this last post. 54.4 says maiden delays union and in 54.2 she also keeps to herself.


However if you do want to then go for it.

Line 4 is clear about not yet committing and usually I think of that as being someone other than the current one but it could be the current one I guess.


Also I tend to find 8.5 a bit take ir or leave it.


Surely committing doesn't have to mean actually being together. You could commit now if you wanted. Anyway if you now feel you want to commit then do it you know best how you feel.
 
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My gizzard can't help but notice that you got 8.5 and not 8 unchanging.

If it was 8 unchanging, I would say it was a definite 'green light'.

With 8.5 though, I sense a cautionary tone, as in,
"Well go ahead, but he may choose the exit route instead of commitment, and if so let him go."
 

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You wrote you got 54.2.4 not 52.2.4 as you wrote in this last post. 54.4 says maiden delays union and in 54.2 she also keeps to herself.


However if you do want to then go for it.
I meant 54.2.4
Reading 54 always makes me think "oh, commitment" but yeah, it's not that clear, esp with 24 as the changing hexagram.
 

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My gizzard can't help but notice that you got 8.5 and not 8 unchanging.

If it was 8 unchanging, I would say it was a definite 'green light'.

With 8.5 though, I sense a cautionary tone, as in,
"Well go ahead, but he may choose the exit route instead of commitment, and if so let him go."
Miss Elk, thank you. That makes sense with 8.5.

I ended up thinking about it a lot and realising that it's not actually a fulfilling relationship, and I would be committing for the sake of commitment, not because I actually want to. I asked the I Ching what our life together would look like and the answer was, 37.2 :
No direction to pursue.
Stay in the centre and cook.

That would be perfect if that was what I wanted, but when we'd met, he had seemed like he wanted to travel the world with me. Lately it seems as if he's losing interest in all that and just wants me as a partner, not really for who I am. I'm a traveller by nature and I know that. So when I saw this, it confirmed my feelings that our relationship wouldn't ultimately be fulfilling.
I've been holding onto it for a long time, believing we could overcome all obstacles, but I was driving myself crazy and I finally feel ready to begin letting it go.
 

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Hello;

8.5 says let it be & see if he stays. Don't count on commitment before it occurs; but you don't have to be pessimistic. Let the relationship take its natural course.

As the thing your highest self wants, the reading says you want to be by yourself for a while before tying the knot.
 

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