Should I forget? 39.1.3.5 > 24

[Juliah]

My question sounds strange, to say the least.

There is a person that I cannot forget despite all my efforts to do this. By all accounts we are not supposed to meet each other again since he ceased our communication (I admit that he could have regretted about it, but he has not contacted me). I have already accepted the situation as it is, said to myself that we should never meet again, a full stop, but I cannot help thinking about him.

Should I forget him, after all?

39.1.3.5 > 24

The line 5 tells that I can rely on my friends' rescue. But I have no such friends who could be able to help me cope with this. And how? To listen to my story once again? To contact him (what is absurd and incredible at all)?

Your inputs will be very much appreciated, dear fellow seekers.

 

[ginnie]

It is said that we cannot control our feelings, which will rise or fall naturally, but we can control our thoughts. We each have the ability to chose what to think about. Given your reading, I would say that every time you find yourself thinking about him, you need to stop yourself and let your mind take a new direction. The mind is very flexible and shouldn't be getting stuck on this man! You yourself have the power to chose your own thoughts. It sounds to me that this situation is a heartache, however, and thoughts of him may take time to leave you . . .

Maybe the friends who are coming in 39.5 are those of us here at online clarity who see your post and respond . . .

 

[Trojina]

One cannot make oneself forget anyone. Even if the relationship is finished it is still now part of your mind, part of your inner world, part of your inner story. So don't be too hard on yourself that you think you must not think of him. It won't work. I don't think anyone ever succeeding in stopping thinking about someone by instructing their mind to stop thinking about them.

Perhaps rather than trying to obliterate thoughts of the person you an carry those thoughts deep inside you (24) because now you are separated your feelings for him are now yours...that is they are yours to keep within you. All the good things, all the things you learned, all the things you discovered...they aren't all just waste products they are living energies.

39.1.3.5>24 It's a bit of a lonely battle to try to forget so don't try too hard. Aim to find more support for yourself, you need to find places where you are accepted. The first step to that might be accepting those parts of yourself you wish would be quiet.

 

[Juliah]

Sometimes I feel it all as unbearable. But I do not know how to put an end to it. Feelings cannot be ended, they continue flowing.

Today I asked about the "friends" of the 5th line, who or what is implied here:

34.5 > 43

This exactly reflects my aspiration to cease everything at once.

 

[ginnie]

Be patient with yourself, Juliah. You must have been really attached to this person to miss him so much now. It takes time to dissolve such strong bonds!

 

[Juliah]

Being really tired of all this situation which has been distracting me for about 1,5 year, yesterday I asked what higher sense was in it:

9.2.4 > 13

I understood the first part of my cast but the relating hex is still not clear to me. Could you please advise?

 

[Trojina]

Ashteroid lives in Moscow...you could get together to share readings ?


13 is your wider community and I think that is what helps bring you back to your life (9.2) and reduces sorrow and fear (9.4).

It's like what pulls anyone through times they have been bereaved, or lost someone close ? It's the world outside isn't it ? All those other people in the world can bring you back to yourself until you start to feel happy again.

In your own head there's pain,,,,,but when you go out amongst people, perhaps at work....however sad you are, someone somewhere is going to make you laugh, you are going to be distracted....and that is the road to recovery. The road to recovery in all kinds of bereavement begins with those little distractions.

You asked what the higher sense in the experience was ? Well first it is an experience which is universally shared (13) You aren't alone in this. Almost everyone you meet will have felt at some time what you are feeling....and they can also pull you back, like in 9.2 'an animal on a rope'

I'm wondering if part of the higher sense here is for you to see what real caring is ? The 9.2 you see makes me think there are people who want to draw you back in, your community, those near you can help you. As it's hexagram 9 it's all about caring for the little things in life. Packing a child's lunchbox each day for example full of healthy tasty food is showing love and caring in that small everyday way. That kind of caring is worth more in the end because it's real and it's there.


We can fall passionately in love with people who don't give a damn about us really....I don't know but my feeling is this reading sort of calls you a bit closer to home, your people around you who care for you.

9>13 looks a lot like companionship in work too.

 

[Juliah]

Interesting and helpful, as ever, but I am afraid, there is another aspect of 13... I do not know it for sure, but I must say that anyway I feel and much appreciate support coming from my family. My relations with coworkers are also fine and very friendly. But where does it concern the situation, my private situation with this person? I can declare, I do not see a connection between these parts of my life. If I understand correctly, the 13 describes the "higher" context of the situation I asked about... Right now I may guess only about its meaning since companionship is not shown outwardly, on the opposite, total alienation takes place. But again, the higher is not what comes out to be seen, it's a part of the invisible. And I do not grasp it yet, unfortunately.

("Wade your cares away" is said not for me and not about me, to my regret.)

 

[meganj]

Regret and wishing for what could have been.
You liked that person a lot and this has caused u a bit of sadness.
You feel things are not finished and it could be a good match.
I feel like he's hiding out for now,
Do u two have mutual friends that perhaps maybe told him to withdraw from you?

 

[Juliah]

Thank you very much for your support and warm words, Meganj.

I have not mutual friends with him. And, to tell the truth, I think that 1,5 is a long period of time to test one's solidity. All deadlines seem to be over.

 

[meganj]

I did draw a tarot card and I do see withdrawal

 

[meganj]

But maybe that's just a reflection of how you feel about it now. But listen to this because line 5 says to enlist support not necessarily from others but maybe things that would be in your favour, perhaps circumstances and ideas.
I don't feel like it's over. Cuz I even pulled a few cards for you to verify your reading....
Can u ask another question

 

[Tim K]

Thanks for advertising, Trojina I can offer an outsiders point of view.

What I gather from all the readings is that Juliah is trying to get through an obstacle while she is not really supposed to.
35.4 Loses the goat with ease - yes, stop trying to make something that is not here.

About hex 9 and 13, they both have only one receptive (yin) line. In both you are ignoring some feeling|intuition.

Richmond, h9:
In line 4, the only yin line, we are accepting that there is quietness in our outer world - we experience it directly, physically, and so accept it as real.
But we are not experiencing the inactivity of inner energies and our absence of feeling about them
so we are prone to expect more than there is available to us.

The lesson here is:
We learn to change our expectations to suit circumstances in this tao and the common name for the hexagram is "nourishment of the small"; it is part of the maturing of the personal self when the activity of its growth is no longer the only thing that matters.
Accept that sometimes small is enough; that sometimes you can't get what you want.

This shows in both lines:
2. Here our feelings open to the tao instead of being in it with resentment; we are will*ing to play the game that small is beautiful instead of always looking for more.
4. If we do not accept the stillness of our outer world (line 3) we itch for activity and lose confidence in following the tao.

9.2 → 37.4 → 13
37.4 is more clear:
Here we are becoming Iess concerned with a lack of outer activity, We are not looking for nourishment there because it already exists inside. This is to be centred.

The Chinese image.
Enriching the family. Great good fortune.

The enrichment is from turning inwards so it is not about external wealth but the flow of internal relationships in feeling.

I think if you love yourself, you don't need the love from outside.
Or that you don't need to fill the void inside if there is no void to begin with.

Richmond, h13:
this tao is about relationship simply as it feels to us. The three yang lines at the top of the hexagram show that we have a tendency to ignore these feelings.
Did you have the feeling that this relationship wouldn't work but continued to press on?

To sum up, the higher sense is: Pay more attention to your intuitive feelings, and accept that sometimes your desire won't be fulfilled at all or it will be but partially, and there is nothing that you could do about it. Learn to be more observant, more detached.

 

[Juliah]

Ashteroid, very subtle and precise. Thanks a lot.

 

[Juliah]

To Meganj:

Yes, it looked like a withdrawal, exactly, out of the blue. The withdrawal has dragged on, and now it looks like alienation.

 

[meganj]

Ok