Some readings about a possible relationship

[deusa]

For the last month I have been asking some questions to the Yi and reading about them trying to make clarity, but I need some help...

There is a trip A was going to do that was a bit of a problem.
I know we are not supposed to ask about other people's lives but I did this time...
Is A going on thsi trip with B?
34.1.2.4.6>52
So many lines changing!!!
My 1st interpretation was: no he isn't. But then I kept reading and I can't figure it out.
It seems he is strong and has decided what to do.
Reading line 5 (i read it is advisable to read like that when 4 lines are changing) i read a message to me: don't create "if... then..." scenarios on this relationship.

Advise to me about A for happiness in love:
39.5>15
16 is illusion. What is 15?
I have obstacles that will be overcome by the help of friends. I do have great supportive friends and they help me.
Generally seems positive, right?

What nore do I have to know about this situation?
41.1.4>64
The situation is not yet complete, that is right...
So I should look inwards and evaluate what happened.
Something is growing in the underground...
But I couldn't figure out the lines...
Thanks for you patience.
As you know, the feed-back is a promise. It may take sometime, though.

 

[deusa]

Update n.o 1- he took the trip.
And i almost freaked out. And then I realized i was overreacting. 34.5 is very accurate.

 

[deusa]

Anybody can help?

 

[steve]

Hey

39.5>15 for me is a really positive answer, when I have this line especially by itself it has a clear indication of some kind of support. Sometimes you need to work on it but it for me usually is fairly fortunate.

Hexagram 15 is maybe one of the hexagrams people when first learning the book of changes overlook. I did anyway. Looking back it should be one of the first I think.

You may notice modesty is something that is held highly it appears. Its mainly about being modest in your thoughts or inner self. In general people whether we know it or not or admit it are more attracted to people that are not full of themselves. Do you know what I*mean?
I dont know if you know or remember the song "Big Shot" by Billy Joel I would maybe say hexagram 15 could be the opposite to that song maybe.
There is a lot more to understanding this hexagram than what I am saying but it maybe a good place to start,
If you are someone like me then its a harder path to take however I do receive the hexagram more often than I used to. Perhaps the Yi thought it was useless to answer me with it.
Now I that I know modesty is a very good thing or important i receive it.
Western culture doesnt really promote modesty, maybe thats why we all look so confused when we receive the reading.

I understand it more now though , the image is a mountain under the earth, so the mountain is the power however it cant be seen, but its there. So you could look at in the sense of quiet power when attracting a mate or the correct mate.

Modesty, The Symbol of Humility, Moderation, Humbling, Respectful/Humble, Yielding/Retiring. 1. Obtaining this hexagram implies that modesty is needed in our attitude, meaning, to allow ourself to be led without resistance. – C.K. Anthony. 2. A Humble or modest person is thought of as having an “empty or unoccupied” mind, meaning a mind without prejudice. – Chung Wu. 3. Only superior people who practice Tao know where to stop, disregard what they have and appear to have nothing. – T. Cleary.

Hope this helped
Steve

 

[deusa]

It helped a lot. You always help.
I hate arrogance. I am mostly modest.
I think here it says to stay quiet as I chose to be, and let things unfold.
When, months ago, i asked about the potential of this relationship , it came out 15.3 > 2...
5 years ago, on another occasion, in another situation, i asked "what is going to be the outcome of this situation?" And i had 15.1.6 > 18.
I never saw the guy again. For the best, for the best, i know.
But still, when I foind that out in my notes, i started wondering if this 15.3 is not a negative reading...
Maybe not.
Do you think 15 as a secondary hexagram could mean "don't have expectations"? Anyway you say it is usually fortunate, right?
So maybe it mean more "you could look at in the sense of quiet power when attracting a mate or the correct mate."
Don't make a fuss. Believe in your quiet power. It is working...

 

[steve]

Hi

Yes 39.5 would have to be for me the most positive line in hexagram 39. I have had the line when I am looking for extra money and then out of the blue something helpful happens. I am not sure how its applies here but you may receive some sort of support in relation to improving the situation.
I think the advice is yes dont make a song and dance within yourself it will work out or you are not being warned about taking the wrong path.
In relation to modesty maybe the Yi was just possibly saying to keep it in check.
You mentioned that something you felt is growing underground, it could be the mountain maybe.

Lets see what happens anyway
Steve

 

[deusa]

yes, waiting is sometimes hard. but yes, you are right.
thanks for the insights about hex 15. very useful to me...

I was wondering, could hex 15 be read as a baby in the womb? the earth being the mother, and the baby the "power"? it would fit with my reading of 5 years ago... i mean, specially in that situation. And my question was so wide... it could include that scenario.

do you have any experience with 15.3?

I think I can be proud of myself, I always acted, in this situation, being correct, ethical, respecting my boundaries and not pushing.

 

[rosada]

15.3 -2
A worker who shows up on time neatly dressed, performs the required task without fanfare and then disappears without a trace.
Like the lone Ranger and "Who was that masked man?"

 

[deusa]

A bit depressing...

 

[deusa]

No potential, right?

 

[rosada]

No potential? Well it depends on the question..
What were you asking that got you 15.3 - 2?

 

[deusa]

"what is the potential of this relationship?"

thanks rosada...

 

[deusa]

i've been reading and thinking:
- the description of the line could correspond to him. he is descreet. and i really hope he is strong... about that i wound't be too sure...
- we have something that isn't very real yet (and maybe will never be). the idea of a mountain underneath the earth, as potential thing, corresponds to reality. it could be my quietness that "unleashes" the potential of the relationship. and me being receptive (2).

wishful thinking? maybe...

 

[rosada]

What is the potential of this relationship?
Hexagram 15.3 Modesty changing to hexagram 2. Infinite Potential..
.. emphasizes that from a wide perspective all men are created equal and ultimately everything all balances out - therefor a person of integrity will not go to extremes but will conduct themselves in such a way that they fit in smoothly where ever they are and will not create disruptions.
As a response to your question about the potential of your relationship I think you are being assured that it is possible for you to navigate this attraction in a way that allows you to remain above board, karma clean, without drama or crisis. This leads me to think you are in a situation where you should be particularly careful to play it straight. If he feels to be closer to you he'll find a way, if not you will be able to move on with your dignity intact.

 

[deusa]

Thanks. Really. Sounds so more hopeful and reassuring then I thought.
And it reflects what I try to be/do.

 

[steve]

Hi

I was thinking could the mountain under the earth be like an attraction could it be like a strong subtle power, something you can\t resist but healthy, if you are so advised.
Almost magnetic?
Sorry modesty is not one of my strongest points.
Working on it.

Steve

 

[deusa]

Steve, what do you mean by "healthy if you are so advised"?

 

[steve]

Hi

maybe positive would be a better choice of words as the advice is related to the image of the mountain under the earth. Thats where the attractiveness is , maybe people are drawn to it. Maybe without even knowing. So relating to the answer to the question, through modesty we attract the correct partners.

maybe?

Steve

 

[deusa]

I am afraid of illusions. I am afraid of my incapacity (common in people around me too) to evaluate a person and/or a relationship in an objective way.
How many people get carried away by people who are not worth the energy wasted on them?
How many abused people?
Now, am I able to identify a real thing? Can I see through the mist of emotions?

 

[deusa]

I wanted to add, for future reference, that now I interpret 34 as he doing the right thing, what is "polite", and that would be to take the trip.
52 i'm not sure what means.

 

[deusa]

i don't know how to read the reading now.
nothing happened. and i am off this thing. no energy, no patience.
thanks for the help.