Someone's opinion... 2.1.6 to 27

[youngmaid]

What does she think of this? 2.1.6 to 27

Related to a job application.

Cheers x

 

[arabella]

Seems really positive to me. I'd look at Hex 2 as fertile ground to make creative things happen. The moving lines I imagine are indicative to this employer that you have tried several creative occupations or jobs and there's been a certain element of struggle from which you've benefited. You are a good worker, devoted to your occupation, but have some things to learn and you learn well and fast, which becomes Hex 27, somebody who brings creative potential to the organisation in addition to tangible profit. Sounds like if they don't hire you, they are nuts.

 

[Trojina]

I see it as quite conflicted, a deadlock. I can't see 2.1 and 2.6 as boding so well...seems like a struggle for resources.

i can see it from Arabellas angle too though

How do you see it youngmaid ?

 

[youngmaid]

Seems really positive to me. I'd look at Hex 2 as fertile ground to make creative things happen. The moving lines I imagine are indicative to this employer that you have tried several creative occupations or jobs and there's been a certain element of struggle from which you've benefited. You are a good worker, devoted to your occupation, but have some things to learn and you learn well and fast, which becomes Hex 27, somebody who brings creative potential to the organisation in addition to tangible profit. Sounds like if they don't hire you, they are nuts.

I see it as quite conflicted, a deadlock. I can't see 2.1 and 2.6 as boding so well...seems like a struggle for resources.

i can see it from Arabellas angle too though

How do you see it youngmaid ?

Hi Arabella and Trojan! It's so awesome to hear from the both of you! (My favs from the onlineclarity posse )

Thanks for your super positive take on this Arabella. It's kind of eerie, because everything you've said is so accurate. Since I've been back in L.A., I've only been going after creative/writing related jobs, not even wasting time on other positions, like admin and stuff. And it's been a serious struggle, because many of these gigs are digital-related and I'm like an old school print girl. Also, lots of the potential employers who are getting back to me aren't serious. Like, they'll contact me and be like "Come in, like your work" and never get back to me. OR, they'll be completely insane: on Monday, I had an interview with this author, to be his assistant for this new novel, and he was a total narcissistic sociopath, talking like he was Laozi, talking about evolution and "the way", which I interpreted as "his way". He was neo-Charles Manson. And you're right, I've totally benefited from everything I've experienced! Past and present professional struggles. So I find your reading incredibly beautiful, I really do hope she sees some of that effort.

This application was sent to a really cool copywriter who needs an editorial assistant. She's edgy, fun, in the now.

Yeah Trojan, I'm totally with you! I can see both the good and the bad in the changing lines. Line 2.1 is like frostbite...but at the same time, out of something completely chaotic and volatile like water, comes solid footing. So, I interpret that as being both good and bad, finding solid ground.

Line 2.6 is a bit confusing to me, because it suggests a power struggle...but I'm thinking, on the positive level, that maybe in this case it could be that both this employer and I could have lots of fertile things to offer each other, a very powerful exchange. Like Arabella said, I've got lots to learn, but I'm an awesome employee, 'cause I learn quickly and really contribute!

Nourishing, 27, is a really good result, I think. Because in this instance, I wasn't talking a lot of B.S., I was being super real, so I couldn't feed anything really negative.

Asked if she'd be interested in calling me in for an interview, got 48.1.2 to 63, so don't quite know if that feeds into the negative or positive interpretation of this casting. I hope it's leaning more towards the positive though!

Thanks again Arabella and Trojan! I hope you're both doing really well!! xx

 

[willowfox]

She sees you as being very competitive and quite professional in the way that you write and speak, your application is obviously trying to show how good you are, well at least better than the others that have applied.

But line 2.1 suggests that she sees trouble in the future.

 

[willowfox]

Asked if she'd be interested in calling me in for an interview, got 48.1.2 to 63,

It doesn't seem so.

 

[arabella]

Just picking up here, if she does call you in, be sure it's a work contract worth having and that there aren't "leaks" and problems you don't need. You want a clean start. If you don't hear back, I think the problem may be hers with some squirrelly agreements and insecurity about her own contractual arrangements.

 

[youngmaid]

Thanks Willow. Well, at least she didn't think my app was insignificant! But still...wonder what all of her reservations are about.

Thank you Arabella! If by some miracle she calls me in, I will do as you say and ensure that there aren't any "leaks" or cracks that could undermine the whole endeavor.

All of these lines are interesting, from both readings...they seem to highlight some serious insecurities. I wonder if they're primarily hers, or mine, or both. Oh well, we shall see what happens.

Thanks again for your wonderful insight!!!! Have a great day x

 

[ginnie]

Asked if she'd be interested in calling me in for an interview, got 48.1.2 to 63, so don't quite know if that feeds into the negative or positive interpretation of this casting. I hope it's leaning more towards the positive though!

Are you sure their company or that individual is actually a going concern; that is, making enough money to pay you? 48.1 says the well [the source of income] has nothing but mud at the bottom.

If I got this reading I would decline any invitation to an interview. No point in taking the time to go, even if they asked you.

By the way, I think the line 2.6 is one of the worst lines to get in the entire I Ching. The dragons battle in the field and blood is shed. That's dangerous and I believe the I Ching is advising you to avoid the situation, if at all possible.

 

[youngmaid]

Are you sure their company or that individual is actually a going concern; that is, making enough money to pay you? 48.1 says the well [the source of income] has nothing but mud at the bottom.

If I got this reading I would decline any invitation to an interview. No point in taking the time to go, even if they asked you.

By the way, I think the line 2.6 is one of the worst lines to get in the entire I Ching. The dragons battle in the field and blood is shed. That's dangerous and I believe the I Ching is advising you to avoid the situation, if at all possible.

Hi Ginnie,

Wow, you blew this wide open. I didn't even think of the financial implications in all of this.

The job pays, according to their advertisement, $10-$12 an hour, which is less than my going rate of $15/hr minimum. I was willing to overlook the decrease in pay though, 'cause as of right now I'm not earning anything.

Your insight, coupled with Willow's, Arabella's and Trojan's, really elucidates the meanings of the changing lines to me. Because, actually, if she can't pay me (48.1) and I put the work in, you're right, it's not worth it (48.2)! As it would lead to nothing but disaster (2.1.6)! The Yi advised me to check out the source (48) and not get complacent, or overlook anything (63) if I got called into interview!

In response to this new insight I asked a couple of questions:

1) What reservations does she have about me? 32 unchanging (lack of longevity--maybe she can't afford me?!)
2) What kind of shot do I have at actually getting this job? 13 unchanging (it could definitely happen)

So, I'm going to be wary about this one. Because, as you've all pointed out, it looks like there could be lots of unforeseen problems ahead.

Thanks again Ginnie! You've totally rocked my world with your wisdom!

 

[arabella]

Are you sure their company or that individual is actually a going concern; that is, making enough money to pay you? 48.1 says the well [the source of income] has nothing but mud at the bottom.

If I got this reading I would decline any invitation to an interview. No point in taking the time to go, even if they asked you.

By the way, I think the line 2.6 is one of the worst lines to get in the entire I Ching. The dragons battle in the field and blood is shed. That's dangerous and I believe the I Ching is advising you to avoid the situation, if at all possible.

The question asked was what did the employer think of the querent's resume. I don't know why precisely, but I'm with Ginnie here [read above] that maybe the employer is a bit bogus herself? I wouldn't run the other way, but that's two of us who picked up on this aspect that the potential employer may be in trouble or not entirely on board financially/contractually. Just exercise caution YM. You want to get paid, not volunteer!

 

[youngmaid]

I don't know why precisely, but I'm with Ginnie here [read above] that maybe the employer is a bit bogus herself? I wouldn't run the other way, but that's two of us who picked up on this aspect that the potential employer may be in trouble or not entirely on board financially/contractually. Just exercise caution YM. You want to get paid, not volunteer!

THANK YOU ARABELLA!!! You're so right! Would've never come to this conclusion without your help!

Yep, seems like there's something shady going on with her enterprise, financially speaking at least, so, I'm really going to be incredibly cautious about it. I'll give blood to the Red Cross, but I'm not going to give blood sweat and tears to a company that won't pay me!

 

[Trojina]

Are you sure their company or that individual is actually a going concern; that is, making enough money to pay you? 48.1 says the well [the source of income] has nothing but mud at the bottom.

If I got this reading I would decline any invitation to an interview. No point in taking the time to go, even if they asked you.

By the way, I think the line 2.6 is one of the worst lines to get in the entire I Ching. The dragons battle in the field and blood is shed. That's dangerous and I believe the I Ching is advising you to avoid the situation, if at all possible.

really ? I certainly wouldn't. Whats the harm in going to interview ? No use chucking away opportunites just because you think a reading says so. If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out but i don't see the use of refusing an interview if offered. With respect that seems like folly.

The question was 'will she 'invite me to interview ?" In short I'd probably take it as a no because I was seeing the answer as she sees you, Young maid, as 48.1.2...not very flattering but thats how I saw it.

Could apply to her company though as Ginnie says

Either way though, personally if invited to interview I'd go along, unless you really have gone off the idea. If you pick up things aren't as they seem or you don't want the job you can still withdraw but I just can't see any sense in not going to interview if invited. Its always good experience and I can't see a reason to close off the possibilities based on readings we all may have got completely wrong.

I don't agree 2.6 is 'dangerous' either. Theres conflict somewhere but why should there be danger ? I'm not saying there can't possibly be danger...but there are other ways to see it

 

[Trojina]

THANK YOU ARABELLA!!! You're so right! Would've never come to this conclusion without your help!

Yep, seems like there's something shady going on with her enterprise, financially speaking at least, so, I'm really going to be incredibly cautious about it. I'll give blood to the Red Cross, but I'm not going to give blood sweat and tears to a company that won't pay me!

Haaang on.....why would you think they won't pay you ? Thats Ginnies and Arabellas interpretation but its not fact is it.

I first saw it as she sees you having little to offer (no offence) 48.1.

Just saying no use running with the idea she can't pay you..she may not but you don't know yet

You seemed keen to start with. Is there anything apart from the readings that leads you to believe theres something 'shady going on with her enterprise' ?

 

[youngmaid]

really ? I certainly wouldn't. Whats the harm in going to interview ? No use chucking away opportunites just because you think a reading says so. If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out but i don't see the use of refusing an interview if offered. With respect that seems like folly.

The question was 'will she 'invite me to interview ?" In short I'd probably take it as a no because I was seeing the answer as she sees you, Young maid, as 48.1.2...not very flattering but thats how I saw it.

I don't agree 2.6 is 'dangerous' either. Theres conflict somewhere but why should there be danger ? I'm not saying there can't possibly be danger...but there are other ways to see it

Hi Trojan,

Yeah, I'll go to the interview if offered! I'm unemployed! No matter what's going on, I'll meet with her, for practice in the very least!

I read the 48.1.2 EXACTLY as you did initially Trojan! Like, from her perspective, I didn't have much to offer, in terms of what she was looking for (48), so she was going to pass me over and find someone better (changing lines to 63). I accepted that. But, for some reason I felt like the changing lines were more juicy, like I was only imbibing the surface reading. It seemed a little off, especially in relation to the initial 2.1.6 to 27 reading: like, fertile ground to nourishing then a big "heck no, not at all interested" in 48.1.2? Didn't make sense.

So, I'm starting to believe that the 48.1.2 to 63 reading is more like a call to arms. It could be a "no way, not gonna happen" reading too, no way to tell, but it seems like it was advising me to stay on my toes...

 

[youngmaid]

Haaang on.....why would you think they won't pay you ? Thats Ginnies and Arabellas interpretation but its not fact is it.

I first saw it as she sees you having little to offer (no offence) 48.1.

Just saying no use running with the idea she can't pay you..she may not but you don't know yet

You seemed keen to start with. Is there anything apart from the readings that leads you to believe theres something 'shady going on with her enterprise' ?

Don't know, it's kind of like 48.1 has to do with wealth, money issues: lack of exchange, commerce. So, I can see the financial implications in that. Not saying that she definitely WON'T pay me if this ever gets to that level, but something may be off.

I phoned her before I sent in my app. I got the number from her website. The first two times I phoned, the phone didn't even pick up, or go to voicemail. Weird. Later on, she picked up the phone saying "hello", which completely surprised me, because the way her website looked, I thought she would be in an office with a receptionist. Not that it matters, working from home is awesome and equally lucrative, just didn't expect that. Anyway, I asked for her address to put on my cover letter and she gave it to me and then I submitted my app like immediately after that. So, the readings kind of highlight the fact that the whole situation is not what I initially expected: big office in Beverly Hills, proper advertising agency, she started her own enterprise like last year or something.

In light of these perspectives, I asked another question:

What state are her business affairs in? 9.1.2.4 to 33

Doesn't sound bad, but not too extraordinary either.

 

[arabella]

Again, I would just exercise caution, not cross it off the list entirely. Take your time because you want a job that lasts and pays properly. All's I'm saying is, if there is a negative side to this application/job, I think it's on her side, not yours. I think your resume is probably well up to what she needs. But I'm not sure SHE is up to what YOU need. That's what I get from the casting. Thus, the caution.

 

[youngmaid]

Again, I would just exercise caution, not cross it off the list entirely. Take your time because you want a job that lasts and pays properly. All's I'm saying is, if there is a negative side to this application/job, I think it's on her side, not yours. I think your resume is probably well up to what she needs. But I'm not sure SHE is up to what YOU need. That's what I get from the casting. Thus, the caution.

Thanks Arabella. I'm heeding all of your advice. I DEFINITELY am feeling, deep down in my gut, everything you're saying. I'm kind of desperate for work right now, but that doesn't matter. Getting into something impulsively out of desperation that isn't beneficial will be disastrous in the long term, so it's all about exercising caution, as you say, to protect my interests. Unemployed or not, can't downplay my worth, and that's a really big lesson for me.

 

[ginnie]

Yeah, I'll go to the interview if offered! I'm unemployed! No matter what's going on, I'll meet with her, for practice in the very least!

Actually, I would go to the interview, too! Just to see the situation with my own eyes, and compare that to the lines I received from the I Ching ... and also for the practice.

the initial 2.1.6 to 27 reading: like, fertile ground to nourishing

I think when we get both the first and sixth lines moving in a reading, then it's a sort of flash in the pan question and the whole matter will be over very quickly.

The h27 as the relating hexagram indicates that the question was asked in the context of your gaining your livelihood. At least, that's what I think the relating hexagram indicates. It's your hope or desire, not the result.

When we get first and sixth line moving, it's like: Where are the insides? There's 'before the beginning' and there's a warning about a conflict at the end -- but there's nothing inside. So I see it as 'nothing inside; it'll be over before it begins' not 'a fertile ground to nourishing.'

It's my own personal experiences of line 2.6, which have resulted in actual physical harm to me, that caused me to say what I did. I am not saying that everybody will experience physical harm when they get 2.6. What happened to me a couple of times: I didn't move fast enough away from a situation in which trouble was brewing between two big dragons all set to fight it out. In any case, it does indeed signify power struggles -- it doesn't actually say what the degree of the conflict or harm would be.

At the very least, getting 2.6 indicates an intrinsic incompatibility between the two of you, I would think ... and yet, I would probably go on the interview, too, if asked. I am sorry I said that about not going on the interview. Curiosity usually gets the better of me.

 

[willowfox]

I asked another question:

What state are her business affairs in? 9.1.2.4 to 33

Overextend springs to mind, and thus has limited collateral, perhaps in debt as well.