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"I have my own ideas of spirit and the spirit world, none of which I can prove, none of which are spelled out in the IC."
I would very much appraciate if you could expand on that, please. :bows:
Hi again sooo,
That what you shared here was so beautiful that i have difficulties finding apropriate words to express how thankful and gratful i am to you, not everyone has this kind of courage, but you do, thank You! And yes, you have understood my question, :bows:
I ask this of anyone, not Annamaria alone. I'd really like to understand. Every previous attempt has failed. How do you explain all this, going on all around us in this world? What does Spiritual mean to you? And if you can't explain it, why do you bother continue using this word as an answer?
Thank you, Annamaria.
It would be my wish that everyone would share their personal beliefs based on their life experience and acquired knowledge during their lifetime. I don't understand why it requires bravery to be open and candid about such things, nor can I think of anything more interesting to share with others within a community. Why is their experience with spiritual ideas and personal beliefs so difficult to share? And secondly, why do those with a faith feel the need to cling to them as though they are facts rather than their personal beliefs, which are but concepts, and admit that they are so? Why do the doors need to be shut, which shut out all other concepts and ideas? These are not things we can prove to be facts, even as we experience them in the Bardo environment, which is the whole point and reason for the Bardo experience. Why can't someone who experiences a deity perceive that deity as part of their own being, rather than being a separate entity, whether they be devils or angelic in nature? I believe there can only be one in the final analysis, so what is there that separates us, other than being particles of the whole wave of existence and consciousness? And why can't we see ourselves in others and others in ourselves? How many difficulties that would solve! Otherwise what can the word spiritual really mean? There is one Spirit but with countless faces, countless particles, countless identities.
Is this only my belief, or is it not so? To me, it would make for a most interesting conversation, yet it is more rare than the tooth of a hen. Why must one be brave to share this with others? What is there to fear or to lose? If it is uninteresting, why throw the word 'spiritual' around like a rubber ball?
I ask this of anyone, not Annamaria alone. I'd really like to understand. Every previous attempt has failed. How do you explain all this, going on all around us in this world? What does Spiritual mean to you? And if you can't explain it, why do you bother continue using this word as an answer?
Forgive me if I sound demanding. I'm not demanding, but it is a mystery to me, how we can talk about Spiritual Development. I am not in the least spiritually developed, I have only developed ideas about the Spirit or spirit, none of which I can prove. That's one reason I love the Dalai Lama, believed to be the incarnate Avalokiteśvara, who states: "My religion is kindness." Very simple and unpretentious.
Dear Bruce
I hope that it is ok with you that i address you with your name. If not just tell me not to and i stop. I just wanted to say that i agree with you, and that we better develop our kindness, let's start maybe with practising kindness to one's Self. Warmly, Anna
To me the entire weekend was a waste of time and money and felt I'd been taken for a ride. But that doesn't make the joy of cleaning the horse stalls and corral any less joyful or personally rewarding, or for that matter, less spiritual.
When you say: "Kindness became a Religion and had nothing to do with honesty or good manners- Very sad experience," do you think this is what the Dalai Lama meant by "my religion is kindness"?
If not, why make this comparison and bitter association? Do you think this is what I intended by quoting him? If not, then why make this comparison and bitter association? Where does this bitterness come from?
I'm confused. Anemos and Bruce, Did you two go to the same weekend?
It would be my wish that everyone would share their personal beliefs based on their life experience and acquired knowledge during their lifetime. I don't understand why it requires bravery to be open and candid about such things, nor can I think of anything more interesting to share with others within a community. Why is their experience with spiritual ideas and personal beliefs so difficult to share?
I think it actually does take a lot bravery to be open and candid. A discussion about sensitivity and a safe place to share might be a helpful way to make it easier to consider contributing a few things. It could be interesting if done respectfully, maybe an opportunity of a lifetime to learn from others' experiences here.
Back to the spiritual / character development thingy...
One and the same no?
A question to all:
I'm I the only one that keeps seeing h22 jumping out ?
( 22 with not the "superficial" connotation)
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).