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"Yi Oracle Spirit operates upon a Need to Know basis..."
Short, clear, to the point.. I love it!
"Yi Oracle Spirit operates upon a Need to Know basis..."
Short, clear, to the point.. I love it!
Absolutely not. The slightest sense,feeling or thought that the Yi "knows" is " a bridge to nowhere".
please, explain (something like 52-4?)
please, explain (something like 52-4?)
Bert, when opinions are opened with an "absolutely not", why bother? On this subject, it would become a discussion akin to those between theists and atheists...
In reference to " Yi Oracle Spirit operates upon a Need to Know basis...",
not the Hexagram (which may be read, one one level, as a precise exercise to practice , culminating in stillness or tranquility*). For myself, it is a cheap or prideful
statement (and attitude) to presume the "Yi" (or the Buddha and so on ) "operates on a Need to Know basis". I may need them but they don't need me.
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Hi Panther,Absolutely not. The slightest sense,feeling or thought that the Yi "knows" is " a bridge to nowhere".
perhaps both can be true then: Need to know-base presumes that there is some kind of plan for you, that is true indeed.
But You surely don't know if they don't need yo, that is also an attitude. It may well be that we are part of the exchange-process, that we together make the big mind and the big mind makes us.
Anyway, it is good to consider hex 52 in this case.
If we're in a grasping, anxoius state of mind, we 'll probably be coloring our 'answer' with what we want to hear or are afraid to hear ...
it's not always easy to 'be' in that best state though, and typically it is some sort of lack of ease in the soul that moves us to make our inquiries. I think if we are open to receiving good and not in a state of expectation it helps.
My experience is that my 'need to know' makes the answer of the Yi very spot-on, and also much easier to understand. Big need - clear answer, the connection of the two was always very obvious.
When I was totally upset, the Yi would calm me down, give a better overview, or very often even make me laugh. But when I ask a well-phrased question in a balanced mood, I seldom get a very clear answer. Usually something I can apply.. but with difficulty and never without any doubt. Often rather along the lines of umm.. yeah.. makes sense.. Not the big AHA!! after my confused cries.
A chirpy crab?
I really see this as being relevant to the "when I am weak, then am I strong" biblical text, mentioned on another thread a short while back. I experience it much as LiSe and Trojan describe.
But need to know can be interpreted two ways. One, that my thinking mind needs to have a logical explanation, and two, that my emotional elements need some sort of reconciliation; and that doesn't always come about from logic. That could require some kind of direct contact, interpreted through emotions. Emotions become rarefied, and then change toward improvement happens on its own.
I think it is this emotional element which can be tended to best when ones own ocean is stirred up and troubled, rather than being calm and serene.
pantherpanther, thanks for your thoughts on this. I'm nodding in agreement as I read. Also about the limitations of a practice or practices. And also about the necessity to connect to the body's alert systems, ie emotions, but that "I am not that", though I am.
Your mention of 52 is interesting, because after I posted those comments and another on another thread about stripping down to essential being, I got to tracking footprints to what I'd consider to be the origin and core, and too arrived at the mountain. However, the mountain wasn't sufficient as a core, because it was inert.
Then, 26 arose as the answer, as pre-incarnate knowledge. Heaven within the mountain, as though all things existing as (creative) potential before they become manifest. It reminds me of the monolith in 2001, a Space Odyssey.
Good question. Reminds me..meng,
It was Bert who brought the relevance of Hexagram 52.
Regarding the "inertness of the mountain," I recently quoted what a teacher said to a friend - a lawyer, a real "lawyer" : "There''s the mountain. What are you waiting for, a nice day?" I suppose it takes enough "wish" to begin - and a strong mind to continue. Is the mountain inert?
Good question. Reminds me..
I quit smoking, will be two years this Nov. I took full responsibility for the necessary grit to bite through it with stubborn resolve. Mountain. However, what I first needed was the belief that I not only could, but would quit. It's hard to convince yourself that you can quit, and unless I could do that, trying to quit would likely fail. I had to first believe. And so I prayed for belief that I could quit. The rest was up to me. "Do or do not, there is no try." That was a 26 experience.
When I was totally upset, the Yi would calm me down, give a better overview, or very often even make me laugh. But when I ask a well-phrased question in a balanced mood, I seldom get a very clear answer. - heylise
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