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lienshan

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A changing line is written on paper either --o-- or --x-- but I use dark (Ø) and light (O) stones when creating hexagrams:

................ OOO ................ steady whole line
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....... ØØØ ........... O O ........ changing lines
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................ Ø Ø ................. steady broken line

An example: If I want to change a broken line (Ø Ø) into a whole line (OOO) then I have to add a stone and paint them light or paint the stones light and add a light stone. A changing line is this way two actions: a present and a future!

When I read a changing line of a hexagram, then I try to examine if the present change of the line is either a colour or
a shape change? I use it to predict if the further change of the changing line will be either a colour or a shape change?

The colour is connected with the lifecreating power of the sun; outside and above.
The shape is connected with the floodcreating power of the moon; inside and below.

And stones are more inspiring than lines written on paper :)
 

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That is a nice one :bows:

I use myself ropes, black for Yin, white for Yang, white with a center knot for moving Yang and black with a center knot for moving Yin, as in old times in country areas, with the knot as symbol of change or of resolution crossroads...

I might sometimes tight changes one another or even tight trigrams and read linearly...

What do you toss ?
 

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I use myself ropes, black for Yin, white for Yang, white with a center knot for moving Yang and black with a center knot for moving Yin, as in old times in country areas, with the knot as symbol of change or of resolution crossroads...

I might sometimes tight changes one another or even tight trigrams and read linearly...
Shuo Gua (8th wing): The number 3 was assigned to heaven, 2 to earth, and from these came the numbers.

I'm sure, that your black and white ropes are inspiring, but I think that black and white stones (pebbles) tell more about the very nature of the changing lines. It's a question of how to express, that a change is either dark (2) and united (3), or light (3) and divided (2). Changes in colour and shape expressed as numbers. Esspecially the shape of the whole line is in my opinion at best expressed by 3 stones as an entity rather than by a line as an one-ness, because one-ness doesn't exist as a matter of fact but only as a theory of black holes or as religious belief (ok with me). Black and white stones (pebbles) were together with tortoise shells used for divination in Shandong almost 6000 years ago. 349 graves of Jiahu have been exavacated and 24 of the graves contained:

Tortoise shells ... Pebbles

...... 8 ........ 173 Black 138 White (rock crystal)
...... 8 ........ 169 (colour not specified)
...... 8 ......... 97 (colour not specified)
...... 8 ......... 47 (colour not specified)
...... 8 ......... 19 Black 65 White
...... 8 .......... 3 (colour not specified)
...... 6 ......... 98 (colour not specified)
...... 6 ......... 48 (colour not specified)
...... 4 ........ 121 (colour not specified)
...... 4 ......... 17 (colour not specified)
...... 3 .......... 1 (colour not specified)
...... 3 ......... zero
...... 2 ......... 47 (colour not specified)
...... 2 ......... 30 Black
...... 2 ......... 17 (colour not specified)
...... 2 .......... 8 Black 2 White
...... 1 .......... 3 (colour not specified)
...... 1 ......... zero
...... 1 ......... zero
...... 1 ......... zero
...... 1 ......... zero
...... 1 ......... zero
...... 1 ......... zero
...... 1 ......... zero

What do you toss ?
I use 50 yarrowstalks because my divining method is the Yarrowstalk Oracle :bows:
 

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I was not comparing stones or pebbles to ropes, I was just exchanging information on methods used...

As stones, ropes weave their history with the very beginnings of Chinese civilization, knotted ropes are believed to be the origins of the written characters or at least their first representation, rope knotting was so weaved into divination that the secret of many talismans was in their hanging ropes and not in the jade or bamboo...

Your use of stones is not only fascinating but I think very stimulating to the flow of Yijing divination and I will most certainly try it more than a few times, I was just trying to tell you about my method as a comment...:bows:
 

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one-ness doesn't exist as a matter of fact but only as a theory of black holes or as religious belief (ok with me).

One-ness, in my understanding, as in Dao or Ko or Kun, refers to Void, the ultimate all existing, all encompassing One. The Void as it is understood both by ancient philosophy and modern science, a Void full of potential, a Void of plenty. Void and one-ness is a fact, if you take away all what exists created by intention or by the impulse and development of the original elements, Void and one-ness is all that is left, both in science and ancient philosophies. The one-ness of a line represents the intention or matter (or thought) which crosses the one-ness of Void producing its mark, its existence, it is Yang. The interrupted line represents Yin, the capacity and tendency to return to void and one-ness any time intention or existence is interrupted or paused. This is the ancient view of one-ness related with all and related with the lines.

Void is the one-ness that cannot be denied because it has its own existence, you don't need to "make" it, everything else need to be creted or sustained for existing, Void is the one-ness which always was and always will be existing on its own, the paper on where Universe is drawn...

I am exposing the ancient belief, not trying to recruit believers... (sometimes I sound like this) or trying to convince anyone...

:bows:
 
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The Fu Xi order of the trigrams:

III II: :I: I:: ::: ::I I:I :II III

The Fu Xi order of the trigrams reverted upside down:

III II: I:I I:: ::: ::I :I: :II III

Everything depends of the point of view. The reversed Fu Xi order is corresponding to the eight phases of the moon. The moon is waxing, when the left (first) line is dark/divided/: and the moon is waning, when the left (first) line is light/united/I . The reversed order is corresponding to the odds of the coin divination method. Three waxing moons are steady yin lines and a full moon is the changing yang line. Three waning moons are the steady yang lines and a new moon is the changing yin line. Full moon and new moon are the beginning of a new cyclus from a clockwise point of view but the ending of an old cyclus from an anticlockwise point of view. :bows:
 
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Oneness exists, of course. It's just divided into parts, and by it's parts we can surmise nature within one. But to do that we have to get over ourselves.
 

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