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Hello,
I am looking for some opinions on a few readings I just cast on an old romance that has recently come back into my life (an old reading I had done about him was just pulled up in the forums recently) Although I had intended to act indifferent to him and "not go there" a few glasses of wine one night changed all that. In a nutshell I, very sloppily, declared my everlasting love fo him :blush::footinmouth:
I won't see him again for another 2 weeks I believe but I feel like I ruined something that maybe could have worked if I let it grow on it's on. Anyways I asked a couple questions about it:
Did I ruin things by saying what I said? 48.1.3.4.6--->10
the lines seem to be contradictory, the first two suggest that yes, I ruined things or he just isn't bothered or effected by it. Line 4 seems to suggest what I said was beneficial to repairing what we used to have. Line 6 maybe illustrating that my feelings haven't changed, I am dependably in love with him?
For additional Insight I asked what effect what I said will have on our relationship in general? 42.2.4---->10
this reading seems to suggest no harm done and actually it may be beneficial. I find it interesting both readings changed to hex 10! although line 4 concerns me because it talks about following the middle path, which I clearly did not do in this case. Would this by advise to handle the situation now?
and lastly, Should I just give up this dream of mine to rekindle our love and get back together? 45.1.2.5----->54
The lines here seem to tell me to hold on to this dream, that it could happen, line 2 especially. Line 1 definately describes me right now, line 5 would probably be him (not sincerely involved). But if he isn't "sincerely involved" why should I continue to hold on to this dream? and when 54 pops up I am always worried, it never bodes well in my experience. Any help applying to this reading in particular would be most appreciated as I am really at a loss what to do now and don't want to delude myself any longer if that is in fact what I am doing...
 
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The first connection which arose in me was that of drinking of wine at the well, well being a slang term for bar, as with the watering hole etc. The typical roller coaster ride starts low and at the beginning, then become introspective, and then eventually gushing over the top. I don't mean this as any sort of mockery, it was just the image which arose in this case.

42.2,4-10 shows a more productive way of 'going after' the quarry of your heart: to consciously accentuate you're more attractive qualities. It's all about selection, after all, of wine and company.
 

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Thanks Meng, I didn't see that imagery at first! :rofl: come to think of it "hexagram 48" would make a cool name for a bar!

so you think hex 42.2.4 talks more about advice for me now as opposed to my question about what effect did I cause?
What is your opinion of my last reading, do you think that this dream of mine to be with him is just a dream or do you see any indication that this can happen?
 
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so you think hex 42.2.4 talks more about advice for me now as opposed to my question about what effect did I cause?

I focused on the future tense of "what effect what I said will have on our relationship in general? 42.2.4---->10." The theme of tracking or pursuing was the same for both questions. Perhaps it takes him awhile to consider the possible benefits from the initial impression. But it doesn't sound like bad advise for a follow up meeting impression either. You showed a variety of depths from your first impression reading (from lines 1 to 6), maybe enough to discover his appetite for more.


What is your opinion of my last reading, do you think that this dream of mine to be with him is just a dream or do you see any indication that this can happen?

The increase comes about through creating the conditions for it. If you want to gather rain, you put out bowls to contain it. How big are your expectations or ambitions? Are you hunting mice or men?
 

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Hello Alev

Just a quick note here, as I noticed in both cases the relating hexagram was 10. 10 usually has to do with a hierarchy and a lower person disturbing a higher ranking person, but for the most part, the lower ranking person is not reproved for it as it is a minor offense, or it is not intended or whatever.

I would be inclined to think you haven't ruined it, maybe stymied it momentarily, but I doubt it is anything to worry about in the long run.

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Thank you both, good stuff to think about
Meng you are so funny! Definately hunting men ;) and he is quite the man I might add!My expections are big I would say, I feel inside he is "the one". I have even en
I did notice both relating hexs were hex 10 so it makes sense in the judgement that the tiger does not bite the man (me) but in a commentary on the judgement I've read that the tiger only does not bite if proper decorum is used, which worried me a bit

the one thing that I have going for me is that he knows me very well from before and knows that I can impulsively just blurt things out, especially if I have a few drinks. So at least I can be sure he is not surprised by this all
 

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oops, looks like a sentence I wrote got cut out...what I had written was that I have even ended my involvement with another guy I had just started dating because my heart was still with this guy
 

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I wanted to post this reading I just did...I found it quite funny!
See I was invited to a party this weekend and my ex (the subject of this thread) may or may not be t here. Either way, I was unsure about going. I t hrew the coins and asked "what do you think, should I go to the party?" 64.4---->40
LOL, I Think I am getting a little lecture/warning here on my behavior! point very much taken!

There is drinking of wine
In genuine confidence. No blame.
But if one wets his head,
He loses it, in truth.
 

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I wanted to post this reading I just did...I found it quite funny!
See I was invited to a party this weekend and my ex (the subject of this thread) may or may not be t here. Either way, I was unsure about going. I t hrew the coins and asked "what do you think, should I go to the party?" 64.4---->40
LOL, I Think I am getting a little lecture/warning here on my behavior! point very much taken!

There is drinking of wine
In genuine confidence. No blame.
But if one wets his head,
He loses it, in truth.

:confused: That line is 64.6 >40 not 64.4...typo i presume
 
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oh alev!! I have gotten this same answer right before a party.

back when I first got the book and was reading it (wilhelm version) I knew of the oracle part of it, but was just reading it for other purposes. Like, to understand the ways of change over all...anyways...

one night, I was going to have a bunch of people over that I hadn't seen in a while. I took the book in my hands and said to myself, "tell me something about tonight". When I looked at the page I focused right in on:

"There is drinking of wine
In genuine confidence. No blame.
But if one wets his head,
He loses it, in truth."

That spoke to me. I thought it was fitting because I had just bought a bunch of wine at the store for the party.
but I drank too much anyways. I drank a LOT. :duh:
And bad stuff happened that night.
And I think it wouldn't have happened if I wouldn't have drank so much.

Hope this helps.
 
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I've heard of no other line working out so often literally as 64.6.
 

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I've heard of no other line working out so often literally as 64.6.

Thats strange, it isn't so for me at all. each time I get 64.4 i seem to be in a sombre frame of mind...asking questions that I'm truly concerned about...you know like money etc where nothing is further from my mind than celebrating because the situation seems serious. Its puzzled me more than one to get 64.6 at times like that...I've yet to understand what it meant, unless it was predictive
 

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Me too, I don't usually get it in relation to any partying but also get it for serious issues. In my journals it seems to play out as a shift in mood in me to something lighter than previously but I take the advice to mean enjoy the lighter mood but don't base any plans or future thinking on it.

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it seems to play out as a shift in mood in me to something lighter than previously but I take the advice to mean enjoy the lighter mood but don't base any plans or future thinking on it.

L

Nice! That is beautiful really. That something can mean something so different to someone else. I mean, I could see how, with the type of frame of mind you are in, how you would come to that conclusion.

It is almost just saying, take the middle road.
-If you are planning on partying it up and happen to get that, maybe lighten up on the spirits.
-If you are being serious and asking for help, maybe lighten up and let loose.


Either way, it is cool how the Book of Changes speaks to different people
 
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Perhaps I presented literally too literally. I mean that it's an early celebration, or a joy of being together and resolving difficulties, as a ferry pulling up to the other side. All we need do now is walk down the gangplank without stumbling. But with lips and legs loose with giddy abandon, that'll require some luck.
 

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i shall look forward to or indeed already enjoy an early celebration then..and will crawl accross the gang plank holding on tight to the sides :rofl:...........

....famous last words
 

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oops again! nice catch Trojan, it was definately 64.6--->40!
It is funny how sometimes we get readings that take days to mull over and figure out and other times the answer is so in your face you can't help but laugh!
still unsure about attending as I have early plans the next day but if I make an appearance I am definately taking this advice seriously!
 
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Well, stumbling down the plank together is ok! :rofl:

No other species seems so well equipped for this kind of last minute self sabotage as humans.

Just sighting one microcosm, bands can be and work together for years, sacrificing relationships and other, more reasonable opportunities. But, when are they most likely to break up? When they're offered the deal they've all waited and worked for, and probably after a night of celebrating.

I wonder how many marriage plans ended after the bachelor or bachelorette party? How many sales have been lost due to the salesperson saying something stupid after the prospect said he'd buy, but before he signed the agreement? The jaw bone of an ass has killed more than a thousand Philistines.
 

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