The rainbow

[svenrus]

Looking at a rainbow with it's colours red, orange, yellow, green, blue and violet....

- and remembering that the first line in the hexagram correspond with the fourth line, the second line with the fifth and the third line with the sixth....

- one will observe a strange similarity: the complementary colour to red, first line, is green, fourth line. To orange, second line, the complementary colour is blue, fifth line. To yellow, third line, the complementary colour is violet, sixth line.

- That those colours corresponds complementary one can experience by looking concentrated at a red colour for quite a long time and then closing the eyes seeing a green color; and so on with all of the complementary sets of colours.

- the rainbow is the painting palette of the nature as the hexagrams are the patterns of The ten thousands of things.

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[anemos]

- one will observe a strange similarity: The complementary colour to red, first line, is green, fourth line. To orange, second line, the complementary colour is blue, fifth line. To yellow, third line, the complementary colour is violet, sixth line.

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Ha! cool

- that those colours corresponds complementary one can experience by looking concentrated at a red colour for quite a long time and then closing the eyes seeing a green color; and so on with all of the complementary sets of colours.

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Yeah, that's the hardware of our eyes . I used to show that to my nieces to help them understand that sometimes what we see does not exist out there and that we don't see only with our eyes but with our brain too.

 

[svenrus]

Only the Yin lines are results of the blendings by Yang lines.... (!) (in the substractive colourscale)

 

[svenrus]

Lookin at the lower trigram as 'Comin' and the upper trigram as 'Going' the violet should be at the bottom and the red at the top according to the Dopplereffect ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect ) as objects comin toward us tends to produce a higher frequnce and vice versa....

The violet color will then be of Yangquality, the blue Yin, green/Yang, yellow/Yin, Orange/Yang and red/Yin. And here 'Only the Yang lines will be results of blendings by Yin lines.... '

Visualized: http://www.falstad.com/ripple/ex-doppler.html (Javaapplet needed)

 

[svenrus]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtractive_color

 

[svenrus]

It's obvious that the violet color is "at the bottom" and vice versa the red color "upwards".....

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[Annamaria]

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It's obvious that the violet color is "at the bottom" and vice versa the red color "upwards".....

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Yes and No, IF you compare the colours oF the rainbow with the chakra system then you see the Violet above and red below (the root)

But thank you for the idea that certain colours are yang and others yin, then it makes sense to me why it is important to havet one's chakras or yin/yang energi in balance

 

[sooo]

Lookin at the lower trigram as 'Comin' and the upper trigram as 'Going' the violet should be at the bottom and the red at the top according to the Dopplereffect ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppler_effect ) as objects comin toward us tends to produce a higher frequnce and vice versa....

LiSe has an interesting perspective of coming and going. I often get confused with these two words which are used in the Yi. I wind up referring often to her findings on these words. http://www.yijing.nl/i_ching/origins/come_go.htm

 

[svenrus]

Yes, I guess I got too far out with including the doppler-effect and take the comin- and going trigrams into account. It somehow gives more logic that the red color should be below and the violet above...

The frequencies are lowest at red and highest at violet (From around 400 to 800 Tetra Hertz); I know it's speculations I'm into here, but when one, in the six places, can see to example the hierarchy of a state/home, like R. Wilhelm does (1) I think that maybe other hierarchies can be seen in it.
... But in which way ? Can You say that red is yang because it's placed on the bottomplace which, as I understand it, in chinese numerology is masculine because it's the first- or number 1: an odd number ? That's where I'm a bit bewildered on the other hand. If comparing red with a tone it will be deep as it has the lowest frequency: compared to violet. But does that mean that it should be placed in the bottom of the scale hereby meant the first- or lowest place in the hexagram ?
Because, lookin at the rainbow up in the sky violet appears to be downwards and red upwards and this is the answer that the nature somehow gives to this question... Or ?

(1) " .......
6. is not active within the time, end, already withdrawn from the affairs of the
time
5. is the ruler, husband
4. is the minister, wife
3. is transitional
2. is the official in the country, son, woman
1. is not active within the time, beginning, not yet entered field of activity
......"
[R. Wilhelm. Book II, part II, The structure of the hexagram sect. 4]

 

[sooo]

I think each system has its own order, and though they can sometimes seem to synchronize, it can also be a case of our own perception which places them in a particular order.

For example, I like your Doppler frequency vibration system analogy, but it is causal based on distance, it is not a constant frequency or pitch. I can see your coming and going idea working, and it is reliable when those things are taken into account.

I also like Annamaria's chakra association with rainbows, but it too is its own system of color classification.

I personally see no hierarchy of hexagram line position, such as would be associated with the chakra color system or the Doppler effect. In various aura tests, I always show from blue to violet, but does that necessarily directly confer with the chakra system? I don't think so, though they may share certain commonalities. I have a lot of baseness in my nature, which would not be located in the crown of my head, except that even my base sexuality has a direct link to mind - erotic and tantra energy. I think these kind of links represent more accurately the relationships between hexagram lines, where beginnings and endings are not always linear or hierarchical, but are more likely weaving to and fro through the energized active lines.

 

[sooo]

coming and going

[video=youtube;WXNb8W0B3d0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WXNb8W0B3d0#t=381[/video]

 

[sooo]

[video=youtube;NNv05iyaa48]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNv05iyaa48&feature=player_detailpage#t=0[/video]

 

[sooo]

[video=youtube;l5FgFgYMYuo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5FgFgYMYuo&feature=player_detailpage#t=12[/video]

 

[Annamaria]

Thank you for the videos! Now i am getting abetter understanding of the dreams i had before, for exempel of two footprints in the sand, and a message about returning to the place Where My father's name is known, i suppose i do not have to Write his name here, it is obvious to me now ....

 

[Annamaria]

And i sincerely hope that this distant and platonic feelings they share ( i mean Dante and Beatrice) help him to reach higher levels of awareness
Happy birthday sooo!

 

[sooo]

And i sincerely hope that this distant and platonic feelings they share ( i mean Dante and Beatrice) help him to reach higher levels of awareness
Happy birthday sooo!

I don't perceive or understand Dante's feelings for Beatrice were distant or platonic, but that his erotic feeling toward her was as toward the divine, which is the higher awareness, as well as the entire point Joe was making, as well as mine.

Thank you, but it isn't until the 13th, specifically Friday the 13th. If I make it till then I shall consider that to be a good omen.

 

[Annamaria]

To me divine love combines three equally important ingredients: agape, Philos and eros. And i already experience it all at home.

The purpose of being on this forum is on My personal and spiritual development, exchanging ideas with like-minded people , if i gave you en annan impression it was not intented, i am sorry, however i have made some special space available for friends if you are interested?

 

[sooo]

I'm sorry. I thought we were objectively discussing the meaning expressed in Campbell's reference to Dante's attraction to Beatrice. My point is that these were not mere platonic or distant impressions, but rather that he was enraptured (erotically) as she symbolically represented his own spirit. (This is the kind of enraptured that occurs in a dream when one encounters their attractive anima or animus.) Thus the connection, or at least the potential connection of the lower chakra to the higher. It is not divided into categories of inferior or superior but united. The same principle is used in Tantra meditation. One does not leave the lower chakra to attain the higher, but the kundalini uncoils from a nearly inert first chakra position to the heart chakra, which recirculates back to the base, or the energy circulates to the crown chakra, then coils back around to the heart, which is commonly referred to as the middle way or path by the Buddha.

I have no friends of special interest here as they've only led to unintended complications.
To site 31.4 -
Perseverance brings good fortune.
Remorse disappears.
If a man is agitated in mind,
And his thoughts go hither and thither,
Only those friends
On whom he fixes his conscious thoughts
Will follow. (or unite)

Of course genuine affection is always welcomed from anyone when accompanied with genuine mutual respect. If anyone on my friends list finds this lacking, I request they remove themselves from that list. :bows: The key word to me is "genuine", not "special".

 

[Annamaria]

http://etologen.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/kap4_img_3608_lowres600px.jpg

I met this Green golden bug on My way home from My meditation today!

 

[sooo]

http://etologen.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/kap4_img_3608_lowres600px.jpg

I met this Green golden bug on My way home from My meditation today!

The Scarab Beetle, revered to the ancient Egyptians, worn about the neck of Pharaoh Tutankhamen.

One landed on a young friend's finger the day after he ceremonially buried his heroin paraphernalia at an ancient Indian sacred site; a positive omen that he'd remain off the life stealing addictive drug, which he has. It too was iridescent green, but did not have the beautiful golden hues of yours. Perhaps the gold means coming riches of some kind. It's beautiful!

 

[svenrus]

http://www.ehow.com/video_4951415_chakra-balancing.html

Besides that some claims to be able to see the colors of the chakra's I haven't (yet); it's also claimed that the Kirlian photo technic shows the aura of to example plants even those parts thats gone, to example a leaf cutted.

It's said that like there are seven colors of chakra also there are seven colors in a rainbow.

I got idealised six colors in a rainbow out of the groundscheme of three additive and three substractive colors.

The maindifference here is that I can see those rainbows but I can't see the chakras, yet I find the idea beautiful and also think that it's theese mentioned in the tibetanian Bardo Thoedol or Tibetanian book of death....

But how recent is this idea: that You can align the six lines of the hexagram with any hierachy ? I mean: was it present at the early time when King Wan formed the Judgment and Images of the hexagrams ?

Anyway I prefer to let the imaginary phantasy loos and allow the whole spectre of the Universe into it.

 

[Annamaria]

If you compare the rainbow with the chakra system then you see the Violet above and red below (the root)

Explanatory note:
I cannot myself see the chakra Colours, what i meant was if one looks at How they are pictured one can understand the correlation.

 

[Annamaria]

The place Where My father's name is known
Explanatory note: in that dream i had for a long time ago i heard Word "Love", that is why it is important to me to practice compassion, and becoming compassionate , to me it is through compassion=love i can come closer to the purpose of My journey.

 

[anemos]

I got idealised six colors in a rainbow out of the groundscheme of three additive and three substractive colors.

Svernus, I think additive and subtractive refers to color mixing and depends on the "source" of color ( paint or light) its kind of two different systems where in one green is consider as primary and in the other secondary. ( yellow too)

 

[svenrus]

OK, I'm in.

1: "The place Where My father's name is known"; Annamaria: Sorry, I haven't the clue to the subject of this thread ???

2: Anemos: OK: additive is Red, Yellow and Blue. Substractive is Orange, Green and Violet OR maybe the other way around depending on which colorscalesystem You follow.

I'm a little confuced now.

Hope We'll find out OY ?

 

[svenrus]

Oh, btw Annamaria, maybe You ended up in the wrong thread. This is not about chakra's or spiritual confessions. It's about the relation between the colors of the rainbow and the six places of the hexagram.
If I'm wrong about that please inform me. I'm on.

 

[Annamaria]

Oh, btw Annamaria, maybe You ended up in the wrong thread. This is not about chakra's or spiritual confessions. It's about the relation between the colors of the rainbow and the six places of the hexagram.
If I'm wrong about that please inform me. I'm on.

Just disregard the comments i Have made on this thread please and i want to ask you and all the people in this forum to kindly respect that i need to take some time in quietitude now. :bows:

 

[svenrus]

OMG, that wasn't my intention. This is of course about colors INCLUDING the chakras, but I was asking about - sorry, allways asking am I - if You can include the colorscheme into the hierachy... AND further maybe the tonescale. Why only the socialhierarchy as stated traditionally ???

 

[anemos]

2: Anemos: OK: additive is Red, Yellow and Blue. Substractive is Orange, Green and Violet OR maybe the other way around depending on which colorscalesystem You follow.

I'm a little confuced now.

Hope We'll find out OY ?

Oh, sorry , didn't meant to confuse you.

subtractive mixing is what we do when we're mixing paint or any other pigment. In that mixing the primary colors are red , blue and yellow So when you put yellow and blue the color you get green - the color reflected is the common wavelength because green is between those two we see green.

lets say two people want to meet
person 1 can do it between 4- 5.30 that is blue interval
person 2 can do it b/w 4:45 - 5:50 ; thats yellow interval

the meeting time is between 4;45- 5:30 ; thats green interval

Additive mixing has as primary color red blue and green. if you put together red and green you get yellow - you add wavelengths so it yields yellow . it has to do with the structure of our eyes and how we perceive color

 

[svenrus]

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