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If you look up Novelty Theory under Terence McKenna in Wickapedia you'll find a summary of what these ideas are all about. Very interesting. He felt it's all pointing to something significant happening in 2012.
 
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rosada said:
If you look up Novelty Theory under Terence McKenna in Wickapedia you'll find a summary of what these ideas are all about. Very interesting. He felt it's all pointing to something significant happening in 2012.

Yes, the end of time.
 

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The end of something must bring about the beginning of something else.

If time is coming to an end - what begins? Timelessness? :confused:

Sounds interesting indeed!
 
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Hi Luis,

Thanks, but this sort of thing doesn’t interest me a whole lot. A good friend, who is interested in this, sent it to me, and I told him I’d post it on the board, and would pass along interesting comments about it. But, thank you.
 

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Bruce,

I don't find the explanation posted here interesting, but there are a lot of implications for this idea...I'm not sure what you referred to as "this sort of thing," but I am fascinated with the conclusions that one can draw from this idea, even though I am not interested in mathematically twisting the I Ching as McKenna did.

McKenna spoke about the End of History, about the End of Time as we have known it, but I do not believe he meant to imply that the world would end along with it, or that there would be nothing to follow the end of the Timewave. Rather, what will come after it may be inconceivable from our current viewpoint. I think there is a lot of good evidence for this, and it's not really based in McKenna's calculations or anything directly connected to that.

I immediately saw in Timewave Zero an attempt to explain something I've thought about since I was very small...the fluctuations of time's flow. Time, as we experience it, does not move evenly from one second to the next. As Einstein said, "Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity." I am talking about these kinds of fluctuations, experienced as the tides are, or as another literal "dimension" that can't be seen but is felt every day of our lives.

I feel that time in my lifetime has seemed to speed up continually. As we approach 2012, we seem to spin faster and faster, like water approaching a drain. We see the exponential explosion of computer power, life extension, and artificial intelligence, along with an exploding human population and the gradual deterioration of the planet. Terence saw in these factors a "perfect storm" that would culminate in the End of History, and he calculated that it would happen on or near December 21, 2012. I don't doubt that interesting thigns will be happening at that time--to say the least--but I think that pinpointing a date was not his intention. The point is to illuminate these ideas and get people to think about where our species is going over the next hundred years. For him, the solution was obvious: we have to leave the planet.

I would suggest to your friend that if he's interested in the concepts of Timewave Zero, he should read up on the Singularity, a concept that's been heavily discussed by Ray Kurzweil and many other thinkers over the past 50 years or so. Analogues of these concepts are probably as old as history itself, and it has been explored in many science fiction narratives as well. Of those, I would strongly recommend a series of graphic novels called The Invisibles by Grant Morrison, which tackles these issues head-on with some extremely vivid results.
 

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Hi nosearmy,
Pinpointing 12 - 21 - 2012 probably was his intention. If you google 2012 Mayan Calendar you can get alot of info on why this date and why these predictions.
I've heard it said that man's brain invented time to keep everything from happening at once. Certainly as our computer age brings us info immediately about what is going on everywhere it does seem as though more and more we are having to deal with everything at once!
 

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Hi,
This is a subject that interests me, maybe have a look at the work of Jose Arguelles,
especially his views on time etc. He has an organisation www.tortuga.com that contains info on his theory and activity.

There is an interesting view I have come across with regard to the end of time. The view is that time or history ended with the holocaust and WW2. The following years are like a wind down leading to a type of global 'insanity', or 'unconsciousness'. Like we are already dead but havn't laid down yet.

What follows is anyone guess, although many people who understand the power of imagination are currently doing the R+D on what the next phase 'will' be.
 

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Can't get this to do anything ashplus. Is this link correct?
 

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It works for me, there is a 'flash' front end to the site that might take a while to open. If not just google 'jose arguelles' you should find it from there
 

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