Too many questions=?

[tess]

I asked a series of questions to try to get a holistic view of what I am going through but I just got more confused. There are several options I could take in my love life: going back to one of two past relationships; having a fun and light kind of affair; going with the flow and waiting to see what happens; or focusing on being alone for now. Here are my readings:

What am I doing right in my love life?
29.6 to 59 (one of the very confusing ones since I'm not sure how line 6 could be positive)

What am I doing wrong in my love life?
10.1.2.4 to 20

What is the proper thing to do in my love life?
19.2 to 24

Who should I return to?
12.4.5 to 23

How can I fulfill this approach and return?
11.2 to 36

For further development I asked about the specific people involved.

Should I return to A?
33.4.6 to 39
What is the proper thing to do with A?
20.5 to 23

Should I return to B?
10.2.4.5 to 27
What is the proper thing to do with B?
52.6 to 15

What is the proper thing to do with C?
59.2.5.6 to 2

That's a lot of questions. Probably why I am so confused - too much information for me to wrap my mind around at once. Thanks for any help.

 

[crystalline]

Not only do you ask too many questions, you also sound like you are reading from a menu!!

Should I have a fling with the lobster or just have have the same good old spaguetti? Or should I perhaps just not eat at all!? What is the proper thing to do about the chicken?? Hmmmmmm... decisions, decisions!

Be-jeeesus! Ask yourself first: What do you actually want?? Are you even hungry!?

I suppose your take-it-or-leave-it approach should be refreshing, in light of all of the obessiveness that goes around here but how can you be sincere with any of these potential lovers when either one of them would mean the same to you?

Who should you return to? Your self!

 

[willowfox]

I would like the pasta with chicken and mushroom sauce please.

 

[tess]

Yeah. . .I can see how this seems superficial. My obsessiveness seems to take on the form of a never-ending list instead of an orbit around the same thing, probably because I have done that in my head so much already and I wanted to keep these readings to the point while focusing individually on each part of the whole. All of these individual situations and this aspect of my life as a whole is quite complicated so I tried to keep it simple.

Its not that all of these options mean the same to me at all. Its just that my motivations seem to be a little askew, like maybe what I want isn't what I need and vice versa. I know what I want but I've misled myself in the past and wanted an "outside" opinion to give me a little objective clarity in asking the I Ching. Many of the readings seem to contradict themselves at times, though, and that brings me here.

The questions come across as cold and detached because there's just too much context to get into so I went to the other extreme and didn't really give any, but, trust me, there are some very deep feelings involved.

 

[dobro p]

I Should I return to A?
33.4.6 to 39
What is the proper thing to do with A?
20.5 to 23

Should I return to B?
10.2.4.5 to 27
What is the proper thing to do with B?
52.6 to 15

What is the proper thing to do with C?
59.2.5.6 to 2

That's a lot of questions. Probably why I am so confused - too much information for me to wrap my mind around at once.

Yup, too many possibilities, too many guys. My feeling is that when somebody can't make up their mind about two people (or three in your case lol), that's life's way of telling them: 'You're all over the place here, and things aren't going to come into focus until you do some work on yourself. Your attentions and affections are scattered because you are.' I'm not suggesting that your feelings aren't real - they are. But until your feelings focus on one person at a time, you're their plaything, moreso even than a person who falls in love with ONE other.

 

[bamboo]

I'll have a little bit of everything please ...and a large glass of red wine to wash it down. could you bring some ketchup too?

 

[bamboo]

Tess, in seriousness, (sorry about the joke+ I was at work and couldnt resist the temptation) I think the most impt questions you asked may be the first two. what are you doing right about your life life and what are you doing wrong? If your responses were flipflopped, they would seem to make more sense!

You're right, there doesnt seem to be too much positive in 29.6. That seems to be the line of the dark night of the soul and 59 adds to the image of lots of water. In the first hex, you are trapped and overcome......but in 59, we see dispersing and being swept away to a different perspective. So perhaps what looks "wrong" is really what will set you right.

You see that you are tied up, so to speak and unable to move, surrounded by thorns, the internal prison of one who has held self-destrucive attitudes and behaviors and has been unable to break free from them; externally the situations you decribe are confining too; the smrgasboard of choices overwhelm you, You'd like to pick and choose and somehow have your confusions solved by dissecting the relationships,and them picking one, almost a random choice.

BUt i think what you are doing right is coming face to face with where this kind of confusion has got you - stuck - and what you might be doing right is the 59 - suspecting you must disperse with it all, be swept to a higher ground, disperse the blood, which may mean disperse the emtional confusion. You are thinking that maybe you need to free yourself up for awhile, got far away from the confusion.

what you are doing wrong? the answer 10 > 20, says that you have been contemplating risky and uncertain moves , hoping to find the one safe enough to continue with, by overviewing - 20- the whole bunch of men.

But 20 could also be a bit of advice, though, as in pointing out that you need to realy step up and take the higher perspective on lovelife in general;

rapunzel , go back up into your tower, and watch and wait and see.........take a high overview of where you have been and what you need now.

the woman is alone, and she is contemplating the whole of her life from the highest perspective.

The proper thing to do with your love life, 19.2 > 24

"You find response in overseeing"

There is good fortune in overseeing and in approaching your life with care. Perhaps there is an inner guide who will join you in this. In any case, such a careful overseeing puts you in a postion to meet a welcoming resonse from others. The enviroment will be friendly to this kind stance. And 19 implies the very beginnings of preparation. It will soon be spring - bringing new potentials ------if you manage this overseeing with care and diligence.

and 24 is the return, the turning point. YOU can begin again on new ground, with more clarity and strength.

I'd say for a while leave all those old beaus behind and get free, wash the slate clean. and when you have come home to yourself and see clearly, you prepare and care for your self and your ground - this sets the stage for a new beginning, the return to spring, to the new you, to a you that can make decisions about what you really want to grow in your love garden.

both 59, 20 , and 19 all ephasizs the need to oversee.......swept awy from the old, taking an overview of your life, and approaching it with careful overseeing. 24 a new beginning and a turning point for you.

 

[ginnie]

When I get 24

Hi Tess

When I am asking a series of questions and I get 24 as the second hexagram, I take it as a signal that the IC is asking me to "give it a rest now." That is, it is time to end the question session and take a rest.

In any case, you took a wrong turn in interpreting 24 to mean "return to" somebody. The next hexagram you got was 12.4.5, and the IC was trying to tell you that you had just misunderstood it (the IC), leading to a collapse of your line of questioning, right at that point.

 

[tess]

Thank you you all for your advice. Jokes aside, (I understand the temptation, it is a very absurd situation I know). I really appreciate the help. As you can see I am a very confused individual and I do think I need to look at myself first before I can try to involve others in my life right now. I do appreciate the help. Thank you very much. It is a trying situation for me although it may not seem like it. So make as many jokes as you like as long as there is something constructive offered for me to think about, I am grateful.

 

[tess]

Much gratitude crystalline, dobro, bamboo, and barbra. Much love, tess.

 

[maurey]

24?

Hi Tess

When I am asking a series of questions and I get 24 as the second hexagram, I take it as a signal that the IC is asking me to "give it a rest now." That is, it is time to end the question session and take a rest.

In any case, you took a wrong turn in interpreting 24 to mean "return to" somebody. The next hexagram you got was 12.4.5, and the IC was trying to tell you that you had just misunderstood it (the IC), leading to a collapse of your line of questioning, right at that point.

24 is one of the hexagrams that I struggle with, sort of like 17. To Return seems very different than to reach a turning point. And what about receiving 24 as an unchanging hexagram? Anyone have any insight or experience when they have been given that reading by the oracle? I was trying to get further insight into a relationship question and 24 unchanging came up. xx Maurey

 

[lucia]

Hi Maurey

For me 24 means different things in different contexts. Sometimes it means literally a physical return but often it means a more metaphorical return as in getting back to where ever you/he/she/it was before.

As an example of the last one I recently asked what was happening with my guy (who lives in another country) and I got 23.1.6 > 24. He had been very depressed about where he was going in his life and he had been ill. I read the hexes as saying that he was getting back to himself (and at this point quite quickly because of the lines 1 -6) both healthwise and headwise.

I phoned him later and this was right. His health had improved and he'd been doing some deep thinking about how to change his very difficullt situation and had a couple of new ideas. In this respect I suppose you could say it was both a return ( to good health) and a turning point (in his thinking). But I think the turning point (if you think about the idea of the winter solstice and it being cyclic) isn't some dramatic change in direction but more like a renewal - just as spring brings new growth - the same plant but with new and possibly more buds. That was talking about him because I asked about him.

Don't know if that helps.

Lucia

 

[lucia]

After thought...

I don't have much to say about 24 unchanging although I have received it a few times. Once again it so depends on context/question. But if you go to the threads under Hex 5 in the archives there is an excellent ten page long discussion of unchanging hexes. It is really really good and represents the best of ideas exchanging on this website.

(I say that because sometimes I get really frustrated when threads go seriously off topic and no-one actually discusses the subject and instead just have a kind of private in talk. This is probably very interesting for the participants but I wish they would start another thread sometimes. An example would be in understanding the Hexagrams number 5 - almost the entire thread is about something else altogether and doesn't say much about the lines of Hex 5 at all. I was left waiting in Nourishment desperate to hear people discuss the lines and it didn't really happen!!) soz guys but it's frustrating when you are keen to soak it all up!!

I have just had a look at one of my notebooks and when I look back many of the unchanging hexes seem to be "instructions" for me (could say "advice" but the I ching is quite bossy with me it seems), images of me or blunt statements. Having only recently read the unchanging hexes thread mentioned above I think I have to have a big think about this.

Lucia