valentines day

[dobro p]

Don't know why my last post came out four times...did not mean that to happen! Well dobro,what is the problem with asking the question twice in two days, are there any rules about this? i did this simply because jesed suggested that the day on which the question is asked could have a bearing on the answer; i am still learning. And yes, it is important for me to know in advance, this would give me some indication of how my partner was truly feeling about me,do i have to justify my reasons on here?

I'm fishing for something real to base a reading on and you're getting defensive. Waste of time. Sorry. Over and out.

 

[rainshower]

well it is a few minutes after midnight the day has at last arrived!

 

[rainshower]

but we don't seem to follow GMT on here!

 

[rainshower]

jesed you were right...we did not meet...i feel very hurt

 

[willowfox]

Well, I read this wrong for you because your answers did indeed seem to suggest that he would be with you on valentines day. Hex 32 which covers established and long lasting relationships suggested continuity here but obviously that is not the case with your relationship because it seems that your relationship is neither steady nor enduring, so I made a mistake by believing that all was well and normal when in actual fact it is the opposite.

Hex 15.2,3 > 7 also suggested a positive result, so I again assumed that all was well between you and he would show his face, obviously wrong again, but the small print does say that you should have stirred this guy into action by reminding him that you were looking forward to seeing him in person on valentines day but it seems that you kept quiet and hoped that he was disciplined enough to do the right thing and run around and see you. Obviously he lacks the discipline and any feelings to bother with you.

Perhaps the psychic and hex 2.3 > 15 were right.

 

[jesed]

Hi rainshower

well, as always, when Willowfox make a mistake, she blame the consultant (and the next step, she would say I'm attaking her)

If you can trust me a little bit now, I would suggest you another aproach. make the next dialogue, following this order

a) General Diagnosis of the relation between X and I
b) X's position within the relation
c) My position within the relation
d) What is the best thing for me to do related the relation?

Best wishes

 

[Trojina]

Hi Rain sorry you were sad on Valentines day. Right at the beginning of the thread when you got 32 unchanging some of us said that 32 here can just mean things will continue on as they have been. You said things hadn't been that great, he was being a little neglectful. Okay right so you see how it follows then that 32 gave you the correct answer. It said things would stay as they have been, he had been being neglectful, and sure enough he continued to be so and now you are hurt. But the point I'm trying to make is all along you never needed any psychic to tell you what he was going to do, infact by consulting them i feel you were just trying to avoid the reality of what your own senses were telling you. Thats understandable because it such a painful situation.

I don't know if things will get better but my own advice regardless of Yi is maybe withdraw a little and preserve your dignity - that is what i think the other reading, the 27 one was telling you. Let him worry about what you are doing for a change and try to enjoy yourself without him .

 

[rainshower]

Hi trojan, thanks for that...i agree that it is probably better to have some space away from each other for a while...he is just so difficult to talk to right now. Thanks jesed for the questions you suggested, i will put these to the I Ching and hopefully will gain some greater insight re relationship. Will post the answers i receive later. Thanks all again.

 

[rainshower]

hi jesed, i asked the questions you suggested, hope you can help with the interpretation as i am pretty new to all this:

question 1...general diagnosis of the relation between my partner and I...answer hexagram 30 with lines 3,4,5,and 6 becomes hexagram 3

question 2...my position within the relation...answer39 with line 5 becoming hexagram 15

question 3...my partners position within the relation...answer 58 with lines 2,4,5 becomes hexagram 24

question 4...what is the best thing for me to do related to the relationship?...answer hexagram 34 lines 2 and 5 becomes hexagram 49

Can you help with this please, thanks so much

 

[willowfox]

"question 1...general diagnosis of the relation between my partner and I...answer hexagram 30 with lines 3,4,5,and 6 becomes hexagram 3"

Hex 30.3 it seems that your relationship is making you think overtime, and now you don't know whether to laugh or cry about it, the relationship has changed, so forget about the past and look to the future, you cannot depend upon him.

Hex 30.4 has the passion died, has this relationship burnt itself out?

Hex 30.5 now you begin to understand your relationship more clearly, you must come to terms with the reality of your situation, you will feel sad but that will pass because changes have to be made which will lead on to new opportunities for you.

Hex 30.6 here you have to deal with the cause of the problem, your boyfriend, the text says to eliminate or cut him off, so a time to take action, face reality and try to get back on the right path once again.

Hex 3 time to start something new, changes are coming, going from the safe into the unknown, at first you will experince confusion and difficulties but in the end, all will be well.

"question 2...my position within the relation...answer39 with line 5 becoming hexagram 15

Hex 39.5 you are in a problematic period and trying to sort the story out, you have to resolve the difficulties, don't worry friends will come to your aid.

Hex 15 is about being modest and cooperating to find a solution to your problems within this relationship. Is this relationship wearing down, was it too full and is now waning? Weigh the pros and cons and be realistic in your assessment.

"question 3...my partners position within the relation...answer 58 with lines 2,4,5 becomes hexagram 24

Hex 58.2 does he think of this relationship as unsatisfactory, does he think that he is wasting his time?

Hex 58.4 is he feeling indecisive and unsure about this relationship? Has he made a mistake because, if so, then he will never find true peace of mind.

Hex 58.5 it would seem that the relationship is deteriorating as far he he is concerned, perhaps he feels that the relationship is slowly consuming him.

Hex 24 a new cycle will begin for him, so after a period of stagnation and confusion new opportunities open up for him, a fresh start a return to a favourable way of life for him, friends, happiness etc.

 

[rainshower]

Thanks so much for your reply, willowfox. That has certainly given me something to think about...it all still seems a bit ambiguous and up in the air however, not sure that these answers point to a definate direction to either persevere or withdraw...jesed, what is your view on the answers i received? Thanks again

 

[Trojina]

hi jesed, i asked the questions you suggested, hope you can help with the interpretation as i am pretty new to all this:

question 1...general diagnosis of the relation between my partner and I...answer hexagram 30 with lines 3,4,5,and 6 becomes hexagram 3

question 2...my position within the relation...answer39 with line 5 becoming hexagram 15

question 3...my partners position within the relation...answer 58 with lines 2,4,5 becomes hexagram 24

question 4...what is the best thing for me to do related to the relationship?...answer hexagram 34 lines 2 and 5 becomes hexagram 49

Can you help with this please, thanks so much

While you wait for jesed heres my offering

Question 1 - You have been somewhat 'consumed' by this relationship and have developed a dependence on it, its been a bit addictive. Its given you real highs and lows. I think it look like there was something really good for you there but perhaps it was never meant to be long lasting in the way you envisaged. Line 3 sees you weeping over whats gone as does line 5 , and line 4 something that comes in a great flash but doesn't last. And line 6 could be time to move on in the relationship (or out of it) but don't be too destructive or throw the baby out with the bathwater. Keep in your heart what was good about him/it without bitterness to make a new beginning.

Question 2, same as Wfox really i think things are difficult for you, you can't go ahead in the way you want in this relationship but there is help coming, maybe other people who can help you out of this, friends - friends can come in many forms of course

Question 3 I feel the 58 to 24 (hmm someone else got this recently about business Tanjh I think) displays him as perhaps a bit of a pleasure seeker, and perhaps a bit manipulative, yet you said hes very concerned with business at this time so I'm not sure about this , sorry.

Question 4 I think is quite a nice answer for you. Right now you are really quite stubbornly determined to hold on to this relationship but soon you might find you couldn't care less. I don't know why exactly perhaps you attitude simply changes but you are able to make a new start.

Just my impressions and I can't see a clear message whether its over or just changing - but in either case i think your last answer was a positive one to try to let go of a stubborn attitude - well you may not need to try there'll be no need for it .

 

[willowfox]

"question 4...what is the best thing for me to do related to the relationship?...answer hexagram 34 lines 2 and 5 becomes hexagram 49"

Hex 34.2 says now progress can be made towards a goal as your problems start to fade away.

Hex 34.5 says to stop being stubborn and if your boyfriend leaves, then okay, have no regrets about it.

Hex 49 this is about changes coming up for this relationship, it says time to remove yourself from it, as you will experience a complete change of mind and heart. The relationship has reached its peak and has started to decline, so now its a case of out with the old and in with the new. At first you will be fearful but later as your life becomes more full, you will then gain inner security and your regrets will disappear. Don't fight the change, just accept it and go with it.

 

[rainshower]

Thanks trojan and willowfox for your thoughts on these answers...i certainly agree that things need to change one way or another whether the relationship ends or continues...the way it has been going is very exhausting for me, and surely for him too. I have not made any contact with my partner since Thursday; when again he was sounding stressed out and not very communicative. He has said to me that he has financial problems re mortgage etc but felt unable to talk about this. I feel perhaps it is best to withdraw for a while as whenever we speak lately it leads to discord. However I do worry that he is ok.

 

[rainshower]

I asked the I Ching "what influence do i have on my partner" the answer I received was hexagram 26 lines 1, 2,3,4 this becomes 35...any thoughts on this please, i do appreciate your help, thanks again.

 

[jesed]

Hi

right now, I'm in a hurry; so I'll comment with more detail later.

just want to say that the first answer points there are good posibilities IN THE LONG TERM (end of 2007, beginings of 2008) for the relation; but only if both of you can survive the difilcut times of lines 3 and 4. A great patience and docility is needed (take care of the cow).

about your position: the dificulties you are facing are an oportunity to improve your character; if you achieve that, then your partner would be closer to you

about his position: return.. that is a good sign for the relation; but first he must get rid of his own mistakes and face them cleary and with energies

Seems like both of you need to face each one mistakes. You blame him for how you feel, and he avoid recognices his faults. This time (hex 30, from January 2007 to January 2008) is your chance to change that; if you can recognice and gfix each one faults, the relation does have a good chance to survive.

About what to do: don't force things; avoid arrogance and sttuborness. That would bring a great change for you.

Best wishes

 

[willowfox]

"I asked the I Ching "what influence do i have on my partner" the answer I received was hexagram 26 lines 1, 2,3,4 this becomes 35."

Hex 26.1 he wishes to move forward but feels that you are holding him back, so he is waiting for the right time to do whatever.

Hex 26.2 again he feels that you are halting his progress, so he has to wait.

Hex 26.3 one problem has been overcome, but he still has to be aware of problems and posssible attack from you.

Hex 26.4 he feels that he must curb your energy, so he becomes cautious and restrains himself because now is not the right time for him to take action.

Hex 35 the only thing that I can think of here is that your influence for good or bad has spurred him to finally take action, he has become successful in whatever he was originally planning to do. Service to someone else, a shrewd and calculating person who rewards him lots of presents and attention.
Hex 35 indicates the time around the middle of March, so if its going to happen then thats the time.

 

[rainshower]

Hi jesed, thanks very much for your comments on these questions re relationship; i must say that intuitively they make a lot of sense...there is a lot of stubborness going on...and i certainly do feel that i need to be very patient with my partner. Perhaps this is what i need to learn from this relationship. Thanks also to you willowfox, for your comments on my last question. Would be grateful to hear any further thoughts on this.

 

[rainshower]

It just came to me to ask the I Ching, "what are my partners true intentions towards me?" i got as an answer hexagram 37 lines 2,6>5 can anyone help with this...it is all helping me to make sense of things, thanks again

 

[willowfox]

""what are my partners true intentions towards me?" i got as an answer hexagram 37 lines 2,6>5"

Hex 37.2 says he wants you to stay at home and to attend to your daily activities and seek nothing from him.

Hex 37.6 says to work alone and rely upon yourself.

Hex 5 is to wait, take no action, it would seem that he has some plan in mind and is just waiting for the right time to act, he is holding himself back, just enjoying himself until the moment arrives.

 

[rainshower]

Thanks willowfox, does anyone else have any thoughts on this answer...This hexagram is called The Family...does this mean he sees me as family? Sorry am pretty new to this so could do with any more advice.