Was our relationship fated to be star-crossed? Hexagram 22, line 4 > 30

[sushi]

In the debris of my failed relationship with my baby's father, which was besieged by set back after set back which resulted in us spending about 4 months out of 3 years together, I asked the iching this morning:

Was our relationship fated to be star-crossed? Hexagram 22, line 4 > 30

Beauty- was our relationship superficial? Clinging- am I hopelessly clinging to the idea that we can still work things out? I honestly feel ashamed that this relationship didn't work out. He was so in love with me, and now it' s like it's turned off like a tap. Still I am tied to him because of our baby.

 

[sushi]

Legge: Line four has its proper correlate in line one, from whose strength she should receive adornment. But lines two and three intervene and keep them apart so that the only adornment is white. The fourth line is faithful to line one however, and desires their union. Finally line three appears in a good character, and not with the purpose to injure, so that the union between one and four takes place. All this in intended to show how adornment recognizes the superiority of solidity. Compare hexagram lines 3:2 and 38:6. Because of their separation we might doubt how far line four would remain loyal to line one. The loyalty is insured through the character and object of line three.

Does this possibly mean we'll be back together at some point? Or is that just wishful thinking?

 

[mirian]

Was our relationship fated to be star-crossed? Hexagram 22, line 4 > 30

No, it wasn't. I think that the I Ching is asking you to re-think the romantic idea, Romeo and Juliet style, that some relationships can be doomed from the start, due to the interference of some sort of esoteric, elusive, external force. That is the sort of illusion that can be represented by hex 22.4 but the line can also express the need to overcome these illusions so you can deal with the reality. I believe that your reading can be saying that a reconciliation is possible, but only when -and IF- you can work out the true nature of this relationship, beyond false beliefs, beyond misunderstandings, and misconceptions. A reality check.

 

[ginnie]

Line 4 in hex 22, the white horse, can be a good, solid partner after all and not star-crossed at all. I'm sure there's quite a story behind this relationship!

 

[cornucopia63]

Learn the importance of clarity, of purpose and it's role in your success. If you want to be successful you have to change or rethink what you depend on or cling to for your happiness and success.

Good things don’t usually come through happy accidents. The most successful people design their own lives and then live their lives with purpose. Their first step is attaining clarity. I define clarity as understanding and documenting your personal and professional goals, and determining the “why” behind reaching them. It’s vital to developing a clear vision, outlining priorities and objectives, and tackling goals with a real sense of urgency and focus. Clarity is achieved when we know where we are in relation to where we want to go. Without clarity, it is almost impossible to generate the kind of focus necessary to act swiftly and deftly on a daily basis. If you have no clear vision, there is nothing to tie your objectives to and nothing to measure your progress and performance against. When you have clarity about your vision, you discover yourself being pulled toward it, and all you have to do is follow the connecting opportunities that carry you along.

So get completely clear about the things that sustain you and are good for you, and then take action.

 

[Lavalamp]

Oh come on Cornucopia63, don't be so absolute. Good things happen through happy accidents all the time. That is why it is said it is better to be lucky than good at something. I have nothing against a purpose driven life, but not all people are the same. What works for you would kill many creatives and artists.

Sushi - Re: your reading, there is a difference between the question "was our relationship "fated" to be star crossed?" and "Was our relationship star crossed?" One is a question about fate, and the other about the nature of your personalities.

That said, your reading 22.4 is about choosing between what is brilliantly beautiful and what is simple - and choosing simple. I don't know what your situation is, but Dylan would not marry Joan Baez because she would not be there for him whenever he needed her. She was a Queen for sure, and he was in love with her, but he wanted a simpler home life. I don't know if that makes sense in your situation... Maybe it's you that wants simpler? Anyway, good luck.

- LL

 

[expressthosefeelings]

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[Sixth Relative]

Hi sushi

Hexagram 30 is a total conflict one; when the question is a Yes/No question, it means NO; when asking about relationship/couple, it means conflicts, quarrels, separation, divorce. Therefore, the relationship is broken but not because it was fated to fail.

Wish you the best