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What can i do in general to be a happier, more joyful, calm, satisfied woman?

20 - 29
My very junior interpretation:
I have to overcome my fears and just trust and be like water. Confident.
And i have to stop. To stop acting, walking, doing, and just start watching. Waiting.

Does it make sense?
 

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You need to take time to self reflect and get in touch with your feminity
 

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Can you explain better how you got to that conclusion?
And how can i care more for my femininity?

Thank you so much for your help, really!!!
 

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What can i do in general to be a happier, more joyful, calm, satisfied woman?

20 - 29
My very junior interpretation:
I have to overcome my fears and just trust and be like water. Confident.
And i have to stop. To stop acting, walking, doing, and just start watching. Waiting.

Does it make sense?

It suggests you are looking at things from a limited perspective, like a woman peeking through a crack in the doorway (20.2) and if it is answering your question directly that you may feel more at peace if instead of camouflaging reality of things you faced it head on, as you said (hex 29) whilst stopping to look at the bigger picture....of whats happening to everyone else in terms of your question...your happiness, their happiness. ETA 20.6 can be about weighing up what others actions are actually saying to you.

You have repeatedly been getting hex 29 so it looks like underlying things is a whole mass of swirling emotions and you need some time and perspective to deal with it
 
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So 29 can mean a mass of emotions, like water, is it?
And maybe i have to wait and be confident i'm capable of dealing with all this?
Look inside, meditate. Stop. Don't act. Accept all the emotions without acting on them. Somehow surrender.
Makes sense?
 

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i have to thank you again for your answers. i'm still wondering how you can get so much information from the I Ching, i hope I get better as i use it more and more often! it amazes me, together with rosada's answer in my other thread...

i have been doing what the I Ching advises and i'm feeling more serene, and my "mass of swirling emotions" is slowly quieting.

i can now see exactly what you meant about this guy i was worried about, trojan.
and i think your answer was a kind of miracle from the universe, or whatever, because it made me feel suddenly more sober.

i'll go on studying this. and thank you again.
 

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What can i do in general to be a happier, more joyful, calm, satisfied woman?

20 - 29
My very junior interpretation:
I have to overcome my fears and just trust and be like water. Confident.
And i have to stop. To stop acting, walking, doing, and just start watching. Waiting.

Does it make sense?

I like your answer a lot. I'd make a couple fine tweaks to it, but that's all they'd be.

For example: Before you can overcome your fears you usually have to first confront them, which is where that sense of 'ut oh' danger comes from. Even if you ultimately conclude there is nothing to fear, the only way to discover that is to confront the boogiemen, look at them, see them as they are, and it's amazing how a perception can simply disappear, a sense of worry, disappear, a sense of insecurity, disappear; you flow along rocks and falls as though they are your garden path.

Then you are yourself without form, other than the form you fill.

Also, 20 has an additional aspect of being seen. Once you have all that goin' on, you won't need to hide it. 29 doesn't really give a damn.
 

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Thanks!
Yes, overcoming fears means looking at them. Like the kid afraid of the dark...

I feel very proud that you like my junior interpretation...

Where do you read your judments of the hexagrams?

I'm really enjoying this, i must say! Makes me go to sleep too late though...
 

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Hi Deusa

Glad you're enjoying this. :)

My prior comments were from memory and personal experience with 20 and 29.

About your "junior interpretation", they are often my favorite ones. It's my perception that Yi's answers are like space seeking missiles, and a junior who cliques with the Yi has open space. And, that can tie with your 20 line 2 - assuming 20-29 was one reading and not two with no change lines. If you open your door wide, you can see a wider vista, you can see the bigger picture, and seeing the bigger picture means you gain a broader perspective; but not broader only: you can also see the specifics involved. Like a zoom lens. The shape of a 20 hexagram is a tower: you can climb higher to see farther and wider. But that doesn't mean to underestimate your innate cognitive responses but rather to trust them (you used the word trust in your interpretation). You should be proud, not of my approval but of your own junior-ness, your own empty space. Try not to lose it as you gain knowledge of it. Try not to overfill and spill it. Leave some space for Yi's missile to seek.
 

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So, basically, you are saying to me to trust my intuition, to try not to become too rigid, once i get more into the Yi... Right? Because some interpretation really amaze me, the ones from the veterans... And it makes me feel doubtful.

The Yi language is very symbolic and each commentor says something different. For instance, LiSe has a very different way of commenting the hex. Sometimes inspiring, others confusing.
I found a site by james de korne with many references to various authors.
Although it is a gnostic approach, i find it helpful. Inspiring too, in a different way.

You wrote 20 is about being seen also. Can you explain better what you mean?
And, yes, it was a reading 20.2 - 29.

I found a couple of readings from end of november and I was surprised at what i didn't understand then. Are you willing to help me?
 

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I'm sure you'll find many who are able to offer help, but I agree with your opening statement: trust your intuition, which is (to me) half of the cognitive process (also h20). The other half is logic, utilizing those symbols you speak of, as keys, as images, from which we extract specific meaning to our specific paradigm. I only use the word paradigm because the Yi speaks to you, and that sometimes means to the reason behind your question, more than the question itself. So you fine tune those impressions to get to the heart of the matter, which Yi has the ability to target and penetrate. Sometimes direct and obvious, sometimes more complex.

I think being a little doubtful is good, as it may make you want to dig or dive deeper. Then good resources are excellent tools. Knowledge is good, but too much knowledge binds rather than loosens ones ability to think freely. There's simply too many variables after awhile. I think it gets more difficult, not easier. But as with learning anything, there are usually ups and downs in our progress. I do believe in beginners luck when there's no 'experts' to compare to. However, it's inevitable that additional layers of potential meanings pile on after awhile, and that sorting through them can become more complex. But beneath those piles is the innate wisdom of a newborn.
 

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i liked what you wrote, it applies to so many other things!

yesterday night i asked the Yi: what should I do to get over A?
the answer was beautiful, in my opinion, but i'm not sure i grasped it all:
52.4 - 56 keeping still - transition
funny how this message keeps coming to me in different ways.
i have to meditate and keep a meditative state of mind. i have to stop, don't act.
now, 56 i have more difficulty in interpreting...
it could be that i feel strange in a non-action position. it is true. i believe it is something i have to learn. and i'm getting better at it...
it could be that it states that if i keep still and act correctly, i will gain something, small attainments, but still...
it also points out to me that i should be quiet and wait, without judging. i don't know everything about the situation to be able to have a clear view...
anyway, i am in a transition period (i fell that). now i should keep still.
gonna try! ihih!
 

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Imo, you have a good and natural feel for interpreting your readings, judging by your brief description here too. I could add more. Chances are there's not a member of this forum who who couldn't add more to it. There's always more than can be added or elaborated upon, but I wouldn't be too quick to seek others' interpretation until you have spent a fair amount of time thinking through your answers on your own for awhile. You've already given your own interpretation here twice, and they're both perfectly sound.

Others can suggest their recommended versions, and there are many to choose from, each with varying supporters. Use what works for you, is my suggestion. It may take a little trial and error, or you may find one that fills the bill for you, at least for a time.

Happy trails, Ms Wanderer. May you find the answers you seek with a steady heart and quick mind.

:bows:
 

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Just to let you, who read, know, that 20.2 meant i was like a woman looking through a crack in the door because there were a lot of things i didn't know. Pieces of information keep coming to me and the door is opening and revealing the whole picture. It takes time, but eventually i will have a clear and unimpeded view of the situation...
 

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