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What difference would it make to talk with Yi about X?

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Hello friends, concerning longer relationship problems with C where I’d like some inner clarity I asked Yi "What difference would it make to talk with Yi about X?" and Yi's answer, 27.2 to 41.I based this question in Hilary‘s suggestion in the relationship questions blog to ask Yi if if it is even wise to delve into more relationship questions if we’re not sure about asking in the first place.Can someone help interpreting the answer?
 

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I think it’s saying better not to ask and stay on my current course.
 

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Hi Mru_17,

"What difference would it make to talk with Yi about X?"
27.2 to 41 ~ It will tell you what you need to cut back in order to grow.

Looks like you may have to give-up something, in order to gain overall?

I hope this helps!
 

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Thanks Radio...I want to ask about a person in my life from whom I am currently separated to get some direction. So if indeed Yi will tell me what I Need to cut back in order to grow do you have any suggestions for questions I can ask?
 

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"What difference would it make to talk with Yi about X?" and Yi's answer, 27.2 to 41.
I'm seeing a differnt perspective than yours in this divination.

The difference it would make by talking to the yi would be
27: You would be nourished through your engagement with it
line 2 - take in what it says to you, even if you don't like the idea of hearing what it may say to you
41: Let go of what may be holding you back from consulting it and this could help you see things differently around the situation with X.

It's best for you if you can find the right questions to ask for yourself - this is a major part of the divination process. Sometimes it is worth spending a few days reflecting and shaping the question that you need to ask rather than firing off a question that is only half formed. When the time is right, the right question will come to you and, more importantly, you will know it is the right question.

Good luck.
 

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You're welcome, Mru_17 ~ If you have a sense of the single most meaningful thing eluding you about the situation, then try to ask a question which will clarify that?

Questions like "How do I...?" or "What would it take to...?" or "When should I...?" give the Yi enough room to speak to you in the context of the whole situation, which is not visible to you now, and might call for change on your part in order to obtain the most fortunate outcome?

Narrow, specific-instance questions ~ such as yes/no questions about fate ("Will I marry X?") ~ rarely have the context needed to render an unambiguous answer, and they ignore the fact that the questioner is always a factor in the outcomes of a dynamic future ~ there is *change* but it's correlated with the actors and the circumstances in such a way that it can be shaped by our actions, especially if change is 'seen' in its incipient stages? That's what the book and divining are all about, if you ask me?

It all comes down to what you are trying to accomplish through the Yi?

Whenever I ask people, "Would you rather know the Truth, or would you prefer to confirm your beliefs?" ~ everyone says the same thing: "I want to know the Truth" ~ but, oftentimes, the questions are simply about winning and losing from a self-interested point of view?

All Best!
 

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Hello commenters, so I sat on it for awhile and then asked: "Why do I continue to hold on to the possibility of starting a new relationship with X?" and Yi's answer was 50.2.4.6 to 15. No clue what to make of the second half!
 

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It would be good to hear what you have made of the reading as best you can right now.
 

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I think what it’s saying is that I’m sticking with it because it could bring a lot of positive change for me and potentially the relationship if it begins again. What worries me is line 4.
 

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"Why do I continue to hold on to the possibility of starting a new relationship with X?"
50.2.4.6 to 15 ~ The suspects seem to be symptoms of pride.

All the yin positions (lines 2,4,6) are changing from yang to yin ~ indicating possible desire-based attachments:

Line 2 ~ Is there a rival?

Line 4 ~ Is there a question of competence?

Line 6 ~ Is social status involved?

When you assess your motives for the relationship ~ are they pure?
 

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There is a part of me, say my higher self that wants the chance to grow with him and there the desire-based part too. They are fighting with each other.
 

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One more thing- I do not know if there is a rival. In May he said he would tell me if he started a new relationship. Till now I have no news. I do not understand the competence part.
 

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"Why do I continue to hold on to the possibility of starting a new relationship with X?"
50.2.4.6 to 15

You continue to hold on to the possibility of starting a new relationship with X because...

50: You are in a process of deep change / transformation
line 2 - you are feeding off old behaviour patterns and negativity of others which are making it difficult to let go (continuing to hold on)
line 4 - you would benefit from asking yourself if holding on is the right thing to be doing. Is it undermining what you really want?
line 6 - Be honest with yourself. Listening to your still, small voice will bring bring about a clearer
resolve that will carry you forward with an opening up of new horizons
15: Things will become less complicated especially if you keep thoughts and actions simple and are gentle on yourself.

Good luck
 

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Thanks for interacting, Mru_17...even if it might be a little uncomfortable? With the Yi, it's all a process, everything's a process, dynamically unfolding as the life we're living...thanks for sharing!

In Section 10 of the 6th Wing to the i-Ching, it says (my paraphrase of Peterson):

"The 10,000 things are in confused relation to each other,
but the Yi can elaborate on them. It's elaborations are not
perfectly fitting, but close enough that 'well-fortuned' and
'ill-fortuned' courses of action may be determined."

So, your self-assessment says that you are not presently aware of any overt signs of possessiveness towards him on your part...other than that your mind does seem to keep drifting back towards him?

If it's a real possibility, then why not start a new relationship with him? And, if it's only whimsy and wishful thinking on your part, then what's the problem with day-dreaming about it?

Would you be better off if you let go of dwelling on him?
 

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I am very thankful for the answers i received. In previous posts I always asked about X and not myself as I indeed was trying to spie on his inner feelings. There are some lovely kind people here like Diamanda and Equinox who were very forthcoming, gracious, kind and concerned about my wellbeing in this situation with X yet I never thought to ask about MY inner feelings. I found My_Key to be very close to what is happening inside me and Radio to be thought provoking. There is in my opinion always a part in each of us that acts out of self interest. We are not Jesus and our self interest is in a way also necessary for our survival. So are my intentions pure??? I love and want to be with this man but am definitely going through a deep transformation concerning self esteem, love, compassion and how I view relationships. My inner child still often takes the wheel since she never really got her needs met. I am meeting her in my process and trying to heal and integrate her. My hope is that during this I can somehow begin anew with X. We are meeting this Sunday and Inam scared as hell. And where you are all correct is that things will be better and my energy will change the more I relax. A therapist said that it is not so much about letting him go rather it is about letting go of old patterns which include possessiveness and my inner child needing him for security. I found that a very sound statement.
 

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