What is the gift in reference to losing my job? 27.2.5 to 61

[Connemara]

Hi, everyone! I recently lost my job after having worked at the company for a long time. Until recently, the department in which I worked was led by someone who was very team-oriented and who inspired the members to do their best. We were encouraged to question things and were free to be our authentic selves, all of which led to a very healthy and productive environment.

Recently, a different manager was assigned to the department. (Just to be clear, this change was not made because the original manager wasn't considered to be effective; it was just the type of change that often happens in large organizations when things are restructured.) Everyone, including the original manager, now reports to this person. The new manager is very authoritarian and expects everyone to do what he says without question. That alone would have been enough for me to be concerned, but he also was doing some unethical (but not illegal) things with which I didn't feel comfortable being involved.

I understand that it is the new manager's right to change the structure and functioning of the group, but it was striking how much everyone in the group completely changed. I was the only person who would speak up about things. I was always very careful to bring these issues up diplomatically, but my comments weren't well received, and everyone else stayed completely silent. Things got really bad, and I asked to be let go. It happened a couple of weeks later. I strongly suspect that it would have happened even if I hadn't asked for it.

My question was "What is the gift in reference to losing my job?" I'm not sure how to interpret the changing lines 2 and 5 in 27.2.5 and what 61 in the end means. I'd greatly appreciate any insight anyone has to offer. Thank you!

 

[Trojina]

My question was "What is the gift in reference to losing my job?" I'm not sure how to interpret the changing lines 2 and 5 in 27.2.5 and what 61 in the end means. I'd greatly appreciate any insight anyone has to offer. Thank you!

It is interesting how you spoke of being able to be your 'authentic self' in your job and 61 is the relating hexagram. So 61 isn't 'the end' it's the basis/backdrop/ surround to the whole question.

The answer asks how can you bring your authenticity to the matter of getting nourished/earning money ? That's the nub of the whole thing.

It's a dangerous business if you look at the lines and the change patterns also. I think you are being presented with a fact here or a description of what happened, you bought your authenticity and it didn't work and so the patterns of getting nourished are disturbed. You are looking for ways to be authentic and nourished (paid) at the same time and this answer clearly says to me that the two things don't always go together, aren't the same thing, there's a mismatch between the wish to get nourished and the wish to be yourself, which you already know and there you are suspended as it were between the 2 values of
1. eating
2. being you

That's what's happened. In line 2 you are suspended between differing values and so struggle to eat because conditions are not yet as such that there is an alignment between your own values and aspirations and what is currently available. In line 5 one takes an unconventional route which is okay as long as you don't try to make any big changes too soon.

So you know you have taken 'the road less travelled' so to speak in leaving this job where you felt your authentic voice was not accepted and look where you are now I think the answer says. I don't mean as a reprimand kind of thing but you are in unknown territory and we as creatures will do all sorts of things just to eat but you have decided your authenticity is going to drive you forward in your nourishment quest more than just the need to get bread on the table whichever way.

The change patterns ( where you make all change lines yang to see yang pattern and yin for yin pattern) which aren't necessary to look at for newbies, I just like to see them as the sort of skeleton of the leaf in the reading) are 29 and 30 . This is dangerous but with clarity and a real insight into your needs of all kinds, you can make it your own way but also do be careful the larder actually stays stocked up. You are doing something well a bit risky and so it's not going to feel easy at times since you have put yourself in position of neither getting nourishment from one place or another, being between things but if you carve out a very individual path through this it could be very rewarding but line 5 says yes this is exciting in a sense but don't try to cross the great water which may mean here don't try to make the future somewhere else than exactly where you are because right now you may not have the strength and it also does say there is good fortune in remaining where you are.

You asked what the gift was which is a difficult question for me because I don't share that orientation of there has to be a gift in something, I don't think Yi is talking about a gift I think it's telling you what's happened, where you are etc. But yes there is a gift, the gift of being in a whole new mode of being with regard to what will now nourish you. I mean you've made a very clear strong decision, a very individual decision and your inner truth is on the line to provide for you now, you've given things up for it.

Another thing to say about 61 is our inner truth looms very large here and so one can see how that might conflict with the necessity of getting paid. Your beliefs, your own integrity or commitment to your truth has become more important to you than maintaining that particular way of getting nourished with pay. So that means your inner truth now has to lead you forth to find nourishment and we can see how that can play out in the lines of 27.

I suggest reading those lines out loud to yourself, not the commentaries but the actual lines. They are quite mysterious lines. Someone called Arabella had an amazing thread on 27. 5 will see if I can find it

 

[Trojina]

Here is an old thread which may be of interest - it's very old so I may have written nonsense but thought I'd link as there's lots of views on 27.5. https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/index.php?threads/going-for-it-hex-27-5.12995/

 

[Trojina]

Mykey where are you getting 47 from ? The answer is 27.2.5>61 @my_key

 

[my_key]

Mykey where are you getting 47 from ? The answer is 27.2.5>61 @my_key

Trojina - You are so right. I'll delete my post.

 

[Trojina]

Don't sometimes mistakes are useful

 

[my_key]

Don't sometimes mistakes are useful

Too late.

 

[my_key]

My question was "What is the gift in reference to losing my job?" I'm not sure how to interpret the changing lines 2 and 5 in 27.2.5 and what 61 in the end means.

Hi Connemara

An earlier post I made was based around me reading the reading incorrectly, so I've deleted that one and had another go here.

It sounds like you have deeply felt the changes in your work environment and have stood firm in speaking out about the things that did not sit right with you, even when those around you shied away from making comment. Asking to be let go from your position is a huge step, one which showed a real commitment to holding yourself safe and being true to your beliefs.

I like you would want to explore what is the gift in this situation, so here's my perspective for you to consider.

Hex 61 - is not necessary the end but the deeper meaning that is running through the whole situation - perhaps see it as the wellbeing that comes in your everyday life when you align your inner and outer worlds.

Hex 27: While this is generally about how we nourish ourselves it can be linked to taking time to reflect on how we have sought and gained nourishment in the past in order for new insights to be obtained that we can adopt / use to nourish ourselves in the future. e.g. take on vegan diet; reduce watching soaps; take more exercise / take less exercise; how do we think; what do we say / not say to ourselves or others etc,

line 2 – this is not a time to feel sorry for yourself or to put yourself down. You have taken the first step, now keep moving towards a life that you feel secure in and which suits you. Even if, eventually, it means tearing up some of the rule books you have lived your life by.

line 5 – Right now, you need to treat things as if you are having a spring clean. Sweep out the cobwebs, re-arrange the furniture but there is no need for you to be over zealous in what you do or take on at the moment. Stay close to home, so to speak, and be gentle with yourself. This is a time for being rather than doing.

Hex 27 means 'correcting the source of nourishment'; Hex 61 means 'becomes trustworthy'. So if you can reflect on this divination it might bring out an answer something like -

The gift with respect to losing my job is that I will become more trusting of myself, recognising the truth in my own words and how they connect me with knowing what will really nourish and support me in my life.

Of course, It might not be anything like that as only you can see the gift that has been presented to you. It would be great if you, at some point, you would be able to provide the answer in your own words.

Good Luck

 

[Connemara]

Thank you so much for being so generous with your time, Trojina and my_key. Trojina, thank you for the link to Arabella's thread. I found it to be very insightful.

I really appreciate the different approaches you each took to analyze what I received. It feels to me that Trojina's interpretation is more left-brained focused, and my_key's is more right-brained focused. Both have given me a great deal to consider and have taught me how to better analyze things myself. I do believe that there is a gift, but I also believe that there are practical considerations that must not be overlooked.

Hexagram 61 has always been my favorite hexagram. My favorite quotation is by Richard Bach: "Your only obligation in any lifetime is to be true to yourself." As events transpired at work, I wondered if I would have the courage to take a stand, if required. I did everything I could to not be corrupted; small ethical compromises can lead to a very slippery slope. The ethical issues caused me to lose so much sleep and put me under so much stress that I got a really bad case of shingles that lasted for months. I know that it sounds hyperbolic, but I truly felt as though my soul was holding its breath to see if I would manage to "cross the great river" unscathed.

It was so disheartening to see how easily my coworkers were willing to turn a blind eye to what was happening under the new manager's influence. I feel so blessed to no longer have this touch my life in any way.

The job that I left was a very well-paying job. In the end, I believe that the gift is that I've reassured myself that if I have to choose between my spiritual well-being and money, I won't sell my soul. (I don't know if what I got in my reading clearly states this, but thinking things through based on what you both said made me come to this realization.) Losing my job was well worth being able to respect myself.

Thank you both again for your generosity in helping me. By the way, Trojina, the following brought tears to my eyes (sorry, I couldn't figure out how to do the quoting):

But yes there is a gift, the gift of being in a whole new mode of being with regard to what will now nourish you. I mean you've made a very clear strong decision, a very individual decision and your inner truth is on the line to provide for you now, you've given things up for it.

 

[Connemara]

I thought that you might find it interesting to see the result of a new query I posed in reference to my employment situation. My question and results are as follows:

What would have been the outcome if I had continued to work for my employer? 18.4.6 to 32

For people who are not as familiar with the hexagrams:
Hexagram 18: Corruption
Hexagram 32: Lasting

From the reading:

HEXAGRAM 18 INFORMATION FROM THE READING:

Key Questions:
What is behind this trouble?
What is the hidden cause?

From the Oracle section:
Corruption. Creating success from the source.
Fruitful to cross the great river.
Before the seed day, three days. After the seed day, three days.'

Changing Lines
Line 4
'Comfortable with the father's corruption.
Going on sees shame.'
Line 6
'No business with kings and lords,
Honouring what is highest is your business.'

Image
'Below the mountain is the wind: Corruption.
A noble one rouses the people to nurture character.'


HEXAGRAM 32 INFORMATION FROM THE READING:

Key Questions:
What inspiration are you making real in your daily life?
How can you continue on the same path, even as you adapt?
Who will you become by persevering in this?

From the Oracle section:
'Lasting, creating success.
Not a mistake.
Constancy bears fruit,
Fruitful to have a direction to go.'

Image
'Thunder and wind: Lasting.
A noble one stands firm and does not change his bearings.'



Upon first reading the results, I thought that I had done the best thing by leaving. However, given what is said in the image sections for the hexagrams, I'm wondering if Yi's answer implies that I could have helped to remove the corruption by staying. (That being said, I suspect that I would have had a nervous breakdown if I had stayed.)

It's my understanding that the future is not known, but the reading is based on the most likely outcome. Hopefully, my understanding is correct. (Perhaps I shouldn't have said "What would have been the outcome...?" but instead used different wording.)

I will give much more thought to the entire reading to try to gain more expertise in understanding what is being communicated to me.

 

[Trojina]

Yes the cast shows you would have left anyway so yes you did the right thing by leaving

What would have been the outcome if I had continued to work for my employer? 18.4.6 to 32

Fundamentally I think this is saying you wouldn't have continued working for your employer. I always find Yi does not address things that aren't going to happen, it cuts to the chase so here there is no imaginary scenario where you would have taken a different route and stayed. You were never going to stay, it was a corrupt situation and line 4 says tolerating that corruption would have been bad. Love line 6 - you don't need these people, you have your own agenda.

 

[Trojina]

Just to add something to the above on the 18.4.6>32 I think the 32 was the concept of staying on as usual and 18 and the lines showed the problem with that and the release of it in line 6. But in a sense line 6 can have it's own problems which connects to the first 27.2.5 reading. If line 6 says you don't serve kings and princes but concern yourself with what is higher then you have to know having released those old authorities what will guide you now ?

Although you did the right thing I don't think it's necessarily going to be easy for you and maybe it's worth being aware of that when the 'going gets tough' or when you feel stuck. You've taken an unconventional or individualistic route here and that can be hard.

BTW is there any chance at all if things changed at your former workplace you'd return ? Just wondering because it was the new manager who made things hard and he may not remain in his role. Nothing in the readings make me say that it just seemed unfair that one new manager made you leave.

And again not directly connected to the readings although this does connect to the 27 what about your wage you have lost ? Even though you did the right thing to leave its hard surely to bridge that gap financially - that is I think 27.2 can be referring to the financial difficulties of being between jobs/ways of life. When you've not yet established a new way of life but have left the old one it can feel a bit scary.