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What kind of romantic feelings does he have for her? 29.2 > 8
This was phrased sort of coyly, as it was also trying to discern whether he had any romantic feelings for her.

His romantic feelings indicate a level of fear and being in too deep, 29.2, but ultimately a desire for union (8)?

Perhaps being afraid of union?

He's someone already in a relationship, falling for a married woman.. who likes him back.. and they work together... so...

Could it also just speak to a fear of joining in a group (8) with his colleagues because of this crazy coworker that adores him?
 

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You admitted at the end of this thread http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/frie...ut-pls-indulge-me-37-for-a-woman-s-sex-appeal that the question was really about you not 'her'. You said

alas, this is not my guy, i am the lady in question. and it's inappropriate of me to be asking this, because i'm married. sadly, crushes happen.

plus you did this before in a much older thread where you said right at the end of the thread that the question was about you not the other person.



So having seen you do this several times now I'm thinking you'd be better off being straightforward and saying it's about you and furthermore asking questions about you since you are the one who needs help in the situation and you won't get far by trying to probe his mind via the I Ching, you will just get more lost.
 
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Here is the older thread where it was quite a shock for me having spent time answering you you admit

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/frie...-Is-this-marriage-auspicious-18-6-gt-46/page2

from that thread

well, full disclosure, the reading was, in fact, for me, and i am, in fact, already married. my husband is sweet but has inherited some bad tendencies from his uncultured,

Speaking for myself I'm not terribly keen on being misled that way....well not if you keep on doing it. There is no need to pretend this is about this is about someone else anyway as we have no idea as to who you are, you are anonymous so why keep doing this trick ?

Also seems you have changed your name from 'tidalwave' :confused: although your threads are still posted under that name
 

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Which are you 'tidal wave' or 'the joyous' ? Your threads come under the name 'tidal wave' but you have a profile, a forum id for 'the joyous'.


With regard to the answer here I think it's more likely to apply to you than him.
 
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ok ok ok.... whew. let's calm down.

i don't know why i sometimes phrase the question as more of a hypothetical, about someone else. to me it makes no difference whether it's about me or someone else. it appears to matter to you, so i will note that and be more straightforward. yes, this post was about me.

As far as not getting far trying to probe his mind with I Ching, I basically just asked what his feelings are for me, which it appears is a popular question on this forum. I disagree with the characterization that the answer is more likely to apply to me than him.

As far as the name change, I changed it to thejoyous from tidalwave, b/c tidalwave seemed too destructive. Although the area on the profile page where one changes her name says that all future posts will be under the new name, it appeared to retroactively change my name on this thread. So I didn't get an opportunity to say, "hey, this is tidalwave."

ANYWAY. If anyone wants to answer my question, that would be great. If not, so be it.
 

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As far as not getting far trying to probe his mind with I Ching, I basically just asked what his feelings are for me, which it appears is a popular question on this thread. I disagree with the characterization that the answer is more likely to apply to me than him.

Yes popular and also possibly the most unhelpful question to put to the I Ching. How will you know if it applies to him ? Unless he confirms what you think the reading is saying you are just guessing.

It's simple to find out what he feels just by looking at what he does. If he is 'falling for' you then he will let you know. If he doesn't let you know directly he's playing games to pass the time at work. Also be wary of jeopardising what is good in your marriage just due to an office romeo who may have no sincere intentions to you at all.

I'd think 29.2 was telling you that you are in dangerous waters emotionally. ?

BTW you may have seen this already but anyway


http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/frie...42-Blog-post-Advice-for-relationship-readings


The name change thing doesn't work if your threads are headed 'tidalwave' and you are now called joyous.

Anyway at least we know tidal wave and joyous are the same person
 
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Finding that post by Hilary really helpful. Yes, you're right... I should use my intuition and my rational judgment... but it's so fun thinking that I can access secret knowledge about him... building "a fantasy relationship-castle " as Hilary calls it.
 
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When I reflect on my love life before I got into any kind of divination, it was all so much easier. Maybe this kind of stuff isn't good for a neurotic person like me.
 

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Yes a fantasy relationship castle is fun but it does often tend to lead to suffering in the long run. Trouble is we always seem to want what isn't available but that can lead to neglecting the potential we have with what is available. I'm just saying in the long run it may make you happier to focus your attentions on the one you are with, your husband, rather than the one you haven't got who is flirting with you.

Each situation is different of course I am just saying to beware that this line of questioning where you may try to augment reality with I Ching casts is a well trodden road to disillusionment.

I mean I could be wrong. You could have married the wrong man and this other man might be the love of your life....but you did choose to marry your husband (or was it arranged, I forget) and you may not have fully discovered him yet. It can be true that familiarity leads to contempt.
 

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When I reflect on my love life before I got into any kind of divination, it was all so much easier. Maybe this kind of stuff isn't good for a neurotic person like me.

I think you just have to be careful not to lead yourself astray to the extent your readings and understanding of your readings has no connection to the other person's reality. It is a very common pitfall and the worse part of it is when a person convinces themselves through their readings that the other has feelings, they become more and more sure of it and then one day they speak to that person and realise that person is not thinking those things at all. Then some people come back here and say "The I Ching was lying :weep:" but the I Ching wasn't lying it's just the person got so caught up in making a story based on the readings they lost touch with what the person themselves was showing them in their actions.

So there is no problem asking about your love life but I think it's more helpful to ask from your own POV ie "what are my prospects with this person ?" because then if you start from you then you have a more solid base for interpretation. Also just be sure to give full attention to what the person is actually saying and doing so you don't lose touch with reality.
 
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To answer your earlier question, marriage was not arranged.

So I did ask one last question, about what romantic prospects/potential there is here, before resolutely deciding to put this away for a few days.

Answer was 50.1.3.5 > 10.

I take 50 as being about transformation, and the lines seem to suggest that things are not good, that I'm not being appreciated, but that with persistent good behavior they will get better, and then I get to flirt with disaster... Sounds great :bag:
 

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Your implied question is: "What happens if I act on my feelings for him?"

29.2 to 8: "Jumping/Getting Pushed into a pit ~ from which only love can get you out."

Here's Joey Yap's Plum Blossom Divination for 29.2

Line text: The presence of an abyss signals danger. As such, one should strive to attain only modest goals. Inauspicious.

General Luck: One should avoid traveling to places with water. It will also be best to cut down on all sorts of traveling activities on the whole, as the outcome is not too favorable. One should be careful of potential backstabbing by people with ill intentions.

Relationships: This relationship is likely to be sabotaged or disrupted by a third party influence, and it will lead to a break up. Married couples are likely to divorce, although remarriage is also in the cards.

Career and Wealth: One is likely to face quite a few problems in one's professional life. It is advisable not to get involved in any major investments, or otherwise one is likely to suffer from great losses.

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So, no more than a flirt ~ this is not the way to make up for a shortfall of Real Love in your life ~ because a misstep could really hurt you.

The gentle warning lights that you are getting from Trojina and Hilary's post, in my humble opinion, are saying that you are using the Yi as a crystal ball, instead of as a mirror.

In my experience, the Yi is your personal oracle ~ it is totally biased towards your best interests, even when your attention is distracted elsewhere...

So, for instance, when you are walking down the path of life and day-dreaming about something you want, but, according to custom, you can't have ~ and there is a ginormous pit just a few steps in front of you ~ then, no matter what you ask of the Yi, it's going to tell you that there is a pit a few steps in front of you, and, in addition, that there are watchful others who will push you into that pit, too, if you stray too close to it.

One of the great values of this forum, again imho, is that it gives everyone a chance to "see more" than just what they want to see, by reviewing it in the pool of larger experience.

I hope this helps!
 

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To answer your earlier question, marriage was not arranged.

So I did ask one last question, about what romantic prospects/potential there is here, before resolutely deciding to put this away for a few days.

Answer was 50.1.3.5 > 10.

I take 50 as being about transformation, and the lines seem to suggest that things are not good, that I'm not being appreciated, but that with persistent good behavior they will get better, and then I get to flirt with disaster... Sounds great :bag:

I know I suggested this question although I wasn't exactly meaning ask this about the office guy. I don't really see how this question can be asked in isolation when you married someone not so long ago ? 50.1 suggests an almighty shakeup is needed if you want to go ahead with this or any other liason. In other words you'd have to end your marriage to go forward with this or any other relationship so are you seriously ready to do that.

Where can this relationship actually exist ? You are married and presumably live with your husband and this man is also in a relationship.

The real issue must be your dissatisfaction with your marriage. There is no point considering other relationships until you decide what to do about your marriage. Are you ready to leave your marriage is a question you could ask yourself ?
 

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