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After much talk with my family and friends this evening, i wanted to contact my friend E who i have not spoken with since early April. just a few emails here and there but very quiet.

I sent him a vm on his office line. and stated that i wanted to keep the bonds of communication open since we have been quiet lately and i feel bad about us not talking. In drawing Hex 32, Last i see how Deeply Desirous i am wanting still, Long Continuance in our relationship. Even though, we CANNOT BE LIKE LAST YEAR, i want us to keep open with each other as so many years have passed without us in touch, and then just like that BAMM! the next we are speaking after so many years, I really feel that this must of had some kind of an impact on him as well. Also, personally, he was pretty freaked out about the way this all happened and i think with men, it can be different to deal with than with women.

Hex 32, Last
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______ (red solid)
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______
_ _ (red broken)

I am seeing this as line 2(?) changing into Hex 11 - Flow

When I have Hilary's translations the Hex's have colors on them. The Legge translations do not. So i am seeing this as a changing line. Please correct me, was the changing line on 1 (2 broken reds) or on 2 (where it turns to a solid)


Hex 11, Flow

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__ __
_______________________
_______
_______
_______

I see that the first part of the HEX is the same pattern (K'un) and the bottom, all undivided lines is (chen). i can't make out what this means though...still learning slowly. can you explain please


I have been speaking to my friend about this, and he suggested that i call and let me Friend E know how i feel. i am speaking as a friend. I do not know what happened. He has emailed me before, actually and we were playful, but this is not really him. He is definately more deeper in speaking with me about things, but i feel distant and something is going on. i am not sure but i hope to get a favorable response with my friend. want to be able to talk to him again and have him tell me that we are "cool with each other" something hurts my heart too much to let this guy go away again for another 33 years and this is what i also mentioned.

thank you for looking at my post.

also, i think i asked before...are there any times/months to these Hex"s
Hex 32
Hex 11
just curious
:bows::bows::bows::bows:
 

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Your answer was 32.1,4 > 11

Like I have said many times before, don't make too many demands on E, afterall he is married and he is busy, so becareful not to ask too much of him as he seems such a dedicated and honest man. Remember to be his friend and do not try to be his lover, as that will simply put him in a very awkward position, and he will need to make a choice and the decision will go against you, as he will stay as he is and cut contact if you persistently chase him with your feelings.

You see that you are frightening the guy with your talk of "love", he doesn't want to change his way of life after all these years of working, having a family etc., he's fixed as in settled. So its good friends or nothing.
 

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Wf, is right. I've posted just to reinforce what she said. relax
 

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You mis-understand me

IF YOU could just be understanding of me for a moment.

i do not want this to continue. i need to say somethings that are on my mind. that is why i consulted the IChing.

Do you people think that i am a bad person?

i am not "Chasing" this person....it was actually him, who chased me, last year and the beginning of this year...when i came, he got scared.

now, i want to - as a friend - relax - but not until we talk about what happened.

please look at it from my side and help me figure out this Hex.

Can someone please, just see it through my side.
I feel as though i was a rape victim and still being said it was my fault!

can someone clarify on this "Friends Reading Circle" what these Hex's mean.

thank you Friends.:)
 

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There is no mention of Love (as in lovers) here. nor was there in my message. IT WAS FRIENDS the way i was brought back to him with FRIENDS...He was the one who turned it around and i thought that was what he wanted.

after much changing on his side, as well, i need to talk to him about certain things.
Love is also with friends...AND THAT WAS WHAT I WANTED IN THE BEGINNING. There is nothing wrong with needing to confront things that have hurt you to settle and move on. this is very important i have been told - i just wanted to ask the HEX what the outcome of the reading would be. can you clarify this for me without any personal feelings. thank you i think it was harder for me to put "this Out here on this site" than the phone call. God Bless all you Friends.
 

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i know it hurts but until you heal nothing will further. the ugly truth... i know you just want to 'talk' but be true to yourself, ask yourself is it really the only thing you want to do with E?
 

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thank you

the answer is YES! The way it was SUPPOSED TO BE in the beginning when i contacted him as a FRIEND and he kept saying LOVE.!!!

This is TRUTH.

can you please tell me, what do the Hex's mean, in my opinion they are what i interpretted them as.


OMG - cut me some slack here already.....no, my therapist said that this is important to me...always, as it was for him when i let him tell me about how tragic it was for him when i left him....he was sooo greatful for me coming back into his life so he can have "Closure" and now, he can go and cheat on his wife/family with no memory of the hurt i gave him years ago.

now, i would like to have closure with him.

I don;t think this is wrong. and we are both lucky to be still around. This is important and i would like to know...do the HEX's say that?

Love to you all and thank you my friends:bows:
 

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HEAL?????
THIS is the guy who contributed to the "damage" i am taking steps, very difficult ones, in doing this. Please, understand this...this is difficult for me....it would make a world of difference in the process. that is why, after all these months, i would like to heal in this way. he is scared and does not want the confrontation. i feel this and would like to know what the HEx's are telling me. i guess i should read about them more in depth as i tried to all last night before i posted.
 

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DEMANDS!!!
OMG - I just want to talk that is all...I don't want ANYTHING from this guy who can't give me ANYTHING that i need in a romantic way.....I want to just talk about what has happened. There are no Demands. I helped through a crisis last year and thought that he would understand. No Demands here....None whatsoever. this is how I continue...to heal....i have had this experience with a girlfreind of mines a few years ago, and we talked and i moved on and so did she.

its best to do this....now while you can.
my friend who died last year, there were somethings that i wanted to talk to him about, and when i found out he died i was crushed. that was something that i am still feeling to this day, so i went to talk to his friends, mom and daughter, i even posted to my FB page - just to have closure. I still hve to visit him at his resting place this year.

please, can someone understand this without this becoming another thread?
 

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What I meant by demands is your call to get him to respond, he doesn't call you but you have continually wanted to call him over the past few months, always worrying and fretting why he will not speak to you.

I was trying to explain that he will never change his way of life now. You say he chased you in the beginning but I see it as an old fart thinking he's 24 again but can't back it up anymore and got shaky as they do.

But look back on your posts you have indeed being coming on strong about E, he's hardly ever absent from your posts, and then this new guy H, "will he, won't he etc".

You take all this too seriously, you seem to worry and fret about these men 24/7, stop, have a beer, relax, let it go, you know, to hell with these guys if they want to play stupid but don't be stupid yourself by getting involved in their games.

I have tried to tell you to ease away from E, I have painted the picture black but still you insist on trying to contact him for some reason or another that is beyond me now. You are a hard person to convince, and then when I make the reading "heavy" so that hopefully you will finally take notice you get all defensive and hurt.

See the truth gal and move on as life is far to short to be consumed with this crap. And the only closure you need is to close the door on all this by quietly moving on without so much as a word to anyone. Why do you need to talk to this man anymore? Its finished.
 

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i dont drink beer

You must be from Brooklyn - :)

ewehh - I don;t want anyone. i have a great job that i was offered.
i am soo happy!
 

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Is that what the HEX's are referring to?
32.1, 4>11?

really?
 

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When you get older you need money and all those little (and big) luxuries that it can buy. If you want someone to love you get a pet.

Be like the woman in the 9 pentacles, free, independent, well off, happy, and have a pet.
 

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Huh?

WILLOW? Have you been "dipping into the bottle of spirits" this morning?

Pets/Lovers - ?

where is the connection?


I rescue Dogs from the shelters

Is that what the HEX is saying...to get a PET?
:bows:
 

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Interpretation of the Hexs

Amy Luisa, I'm surprised you aren't casting Hex 4 judgment by now, the IChing has responded so many times to your queries about E.

The Hex 32.1.4 can be read as an indication that you are supposed to be in charge of your own heart and, if you are, you wouldn't be deluded about this situation with E. Also, you are looking for a relationship where there isn't one to be found and it's time to pack it in and pursue your interest in a relationship where you might possibly find one. Most married men don't have single women who are former lovers as friends. Men taken by surprise at running into an old flame might say all sorts of things, but as an intelligent person it is your job to be skeptical and realise it's just talk. If it weren't just talk, he would have done something substantial about it by now.

The outcome, Hexagram 11 is advising you to find peace in the situation and go with the natural flow -- also an aspect of the changing lines in Hex 32. There is a simple, natural process and conclusion here that you are just ignoring. Therapy or no therapy you need to get with the program because continually questioning this situation is NOT going to change it. He thoroughly intends to stay married and honor that relationship first -- another aspect of Hex 32 you may already be familiar with.

The Share Readings forum is a place to bring castings that we can help to interpret and all can practice, learn, or possibly teach something new or more elaborate. This is no longer new in any regard, nor is there potentially a more elaborate aspect to explore -- for interpreters here who are reading for you, or for you the querent. Time to address something different. This, I believe, is what Willow Fox has been saying for a while now.
 

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Lololol

i am using this on my stand up at the Comedy Factory in LA.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

the Yolks on ME!

:rofl::rofl::duh::duh:
 

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I LOVE THIS INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE. IT ALWAYS MAKES the man seem so wonderful and clean - sort of like Ward Cleaver meets Mr. BIG (LOL)
 

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WILLOW? Have you been "dipping into the bottle of spirits" this morning?

Pets/Lovers - ?

where is the connection?


I rescue Dogs from the shelters

Is that what the HEX is saying...to get a PET?
:bows:

In fact I have been in contact with "spirits" today.

Pets and lovers are connected and Hex 11 suggests for your own happiness and peace of mind that you lavish your abundant affection on a "furry friend".
 

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This, I believe, is what Willow Fox has been saying for a while now.

And yes arabella I feel that we all need to move on from E story as it has become some what repetitious and I'm gasping for air.

Good night.
 

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willow

willow i rescue dogs.

this has been too stressful for you.
gasping for air....you should be sitting here in arizona...where there is no air.

love to you and i have always had dogs and am a very sensitve person. you have to be to take care of these little ones and understand and have compassion and empathy. the dogs and all animals are from God and should be treated with respect and kindness. they teach us to be more sensitive to peoples feelings and love.

do you have any?;)
 

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I don't have any dogs now, but I used to have many, as they died I never got anymore.

But now I have 16 cats and a parrot.
 

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Cats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

LET ME COME OVER AND HAVE SOME TEA WITH YOU. WE CAN WATCH EPISODES OF UPSTAIRS DOWNSTAIRS ON THE BBC!

CATSSSS

I AM A DOG PERSON.
I AM VERY SENSITIVE...SUCH A BLEEDING HEART I AM, I AM SURPISED I AM NOT A HEMOPHELIAC

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

ITS ALL GOOD...ITS ALL GOOD. MY GIRLFREIND JUST SENT ME A HILARIOUS UTUBE VIDEO OF A DOG HAVING BREAKFAST AT HER TABLE WEARING A WOMANS ROBE ON AND ITS CALLED "BREAKFAST WITH GINGER" I HAVE NEVER LAUGHED THIS HARD SINCE I READ ALL OF MY OLD LOVE LETTERS FROM EE - ERGHHH - THE BOSTON STRANGLER?
 

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At least animals never criticize one, or comment upon how you look, or that you are late, or get into arguments with you.

My parrot is always happy to see me, and never complains about anything.
 

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yes

that is true Willow. my dogs (one died) are my love life....


thank you dear Willow.

for your help.

love to you always:)
 

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