Which is stronger, change line of relating hex. 35.5>12

[amelie]

This is an update on the painfully slow process of a job application that I filed about a month ago with responses from Lise, Ginnie and Willowfox.... See http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=8736

I interviewed this AM. The interview went well, but my friend on the inside tells me that there is another person that I am up against. Like me, this individual interviewed "very well" according the my inside information.

So I asked "What are my chances of being offered this position?" In response I got Hex. 35.5>12.
The change line and the relating hexagram seem to be different in tone. So the blended take would be "Yes, but no" ...does that sound right?

35.5 would mean "Very Good!" but 12 would imply a blockage or stagnation...Could this mean that, although I am the chosen candidate, there is some other blockage that would prevent the offer from being actualized (I just read about a hiring freeze in my organization, although this policy should not affect job postings that have already been, well, "posted", such as mine.)

The other thing that I'm theorizing is that the job is something I "should" turn down. I have been a bit ambivalent about this position, but have recently become quite excited about it.

Thanks in advance.

 

[tigerintheboat]

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I interviewed this AM. The interview went well, but my friend on the inside tells me that there is another person that I am up against. Like me, this individual interviewed "very well" according the my inside information.

So I asked "What are my chances of being offered this position?" In response I got Hex. 35.5>12.

My sense of 35.5 is that it is an Advance that does not work out.

To quote Hilary..."‘Regrets vanish.
Letting go, gaining, do not worry.
Going on is good fortune,
Nothing that does not bear fruit.’

Not everything is going to work out. Not all people are always honourable, kind and positive. Consequently, your best efforts will not always be justly rewarded with success – and this is not a sign that the world is broken and you must mend it.


It does not sound like a positive reading to me, and Hexagram 12 is Obstruction.

Sounds like you should start thinking about other opportunities.

Tiger

 

[meng]

Could this mean that, although I am the chosen candidate, there is some other blockage that would prevent the offer from being actualized (I just read about a hiring freeze in my organization, although this policy should not affect job postings that have already been, well, "posted", such as mine.)

The other thing that I'm theorizing is that the job is something I "should" turn down. I have been a bit ambivalent about this position, but have recently become quite excited about it.

Thanks in advance.

Your thoughts on this are also my exact thoughts.

Additionally, 12 is an image of elements expanding (35). If you consider our universe, all the bodies are expanding outward, which means they are moving further and further away from other bodies (12 - opposite direction from unity, 11).

If the company is merging, buying, being bought, or being positioned for any of the above, would be an example. Or, as you've said, maybe it is you who moves away from them in an effort to expand your own horizons.

 

[meng]

35.5 - One grows from the things that come and go, not from the things one holds on to. Money has to roll, insights, ideas, lessons have to roll too. Life is only alive as long as it is moving. Who holds on to his securities cannot grow. ~ LiSe

 

[Trojina]

i had 35.5 for the exact same question re a job. I did not get the job...yet 35.5 seemed to encourage me to go for it anyway...as it is not the gain or loss that matters here.

 

[amelie]

Thanks to Trojan, Meng, and Tigerintheboat!

Thank you Trojan, Tigerintheboat, and Meng. I guess I should be happy that my interp lines up with all of yours...But then of course, given the implication, I'm not!

You three do seem quite unified in your general take on this, albeit with different shades of nuance (Meng, I love your reference to the expanding universe. for hex. 12...so creative!)

Trojan, I found your reference to the line interpretation regarding "gain and loss" not being important intriguing. Given that you imply you had a situation that mirrored mine, could you share some of your actual context around this? For example, did applying for the job help you in some unanticipated way, even if it did not land you the targeted job?

Tigerintheboat, I've certainly felt a lot of ambivalence about this position, so looking for other opportunities may be appropo even if I am offered the postion. I liked this avenue, though, because the staff is a known quantity for me, and the opportunity began with their pursuing ME. Not advancing through this avenue will leave me to do a lot of tiresome proactive job searching on my own !

I read a recent thread that stressed the importance of providing diviners with the gratification of hearing about how the outcome plays out in the real world...I will follow up and let you know what happens!

Amelie

 

[Trojina]

Trojan, I found your reference to the line interpretation regarding "gain and loss" not being important intriguing. Given that you imply you had a situation that mirrored mine, could you share some of your actual context around this? For example, did applying for the job help you in some unanticipated way, even if it did not land you the targeted job?



I read a recent thread that stressed the importance of providing diviners with the gratification of hearing about how the outcome plays out in the real world...I will follow up and let you know what happens!

Amelie

It was a place I had an ongoing connection with anyway. There was strangely a fair amount of good feeling around the whole thing. I wasn't quite the right person but they let me know i was valued. I was already ambivalent about wanting that particular job...and actually the Yi had predicted it really wasn't to be mine yet this answer amongst others encouraged me to go for it anyway. In the general context of 35 it isn't that one is not making progress..its just progress maybe doesn't always add up to gain upon gain upon gain, theres losses too and they don't really matter in the whole context of where you're at at this time.

I think perhaps this line may sometimes indicate one may not have an immediate gain of the thing you want but something later comes up because of it..something else. So it looks like loss but it may be gain somewhere down the line and even vice versa...thats why the counsel is not to take loss or gain to heart. Reminds me of that story Brads related a few times about the guy who lost a horse and everyone thought it was bad but he saw it as good..I'll link if i can find it..anyway it kind of illustrates the constant flip sides of good/bad fortune., http://onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?p=100119#post100119 uh oh correction... the point is he didn't see it as bad or good..him being a sage and all


Of course just because for me that time I didn't get the job doesn't mean you won't. It may manifest differently for you, but either way i think this line counsels chillout with regard to getting or not getting.

Funny though i do now think of it as a consolation line, a kind of 'never mind' line and when someone says 'never mind' then theres usually some perceived misfortune..so i kinda agree with Tiger I feel 35.5 to be more about not getting than getting..thats how its manifested for me more than once anyway..but also anything 'lost' here really does not need to be taken to heart...in hindsight one can see that ...er like I'm really glad i did not get that job now for a number of reasons. it would have been a little dead end (12)

 

[amelie]

Thank you Trojan

Funny, the rapport you describe with your people has a very similar feel to the people in my situation. These people like me, and I like them, and we've known each other for some time. But, that doesn't mean that the position in question is perfect for me.

I very much appreciate the reiteration from all of the respondents in this post regarding not taking loss or gain to heart with regard to a desired outcome. (It is stated VERY clearly in published interpretations, yet it does my extraverted sould good to hear it repeated through this online dialogue.) In the last ten years, the best things that have happened to me did not fit into my conscious life plan at all.

Trust is not my strong suit...and yet, in times like these, trust is what I need. Thank you for giving my extraverted self the opportunity to "talk" this through.

In fact, I might wait a whole 24 hours before I start stressing over why things don't happen EXACTLY as I plan them. Sometimes I feel like a remedial learner whose remediation takes very slowly.