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Is there any way I can find relief from these feelings of Abandonment and Betrayal--- relief that might issue from D's 'reaching out'?

61.2.4.5 > 21 INNER TRUTH 2.4.5 > 21 (BITING THROUGH).

Sends both shivers down my spine & activates my Kundalini.

Panic.

In particular I don't like line 4 which seems to be me, the horse that strays. This seems to be saying that I myself choose to cut and run. But I don't, I don't, I don't WANT TO.

One commentator said that 'though the horse runs away, it will return again like the full moon' - but only one commentator amongst a number. Is this Reading definitive? Could it change? how might it change, or be changed?

I do not like. Any Alternatives? I am wondering. IS there another way?

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WALK OUT IN THE RAIN.

by Bob Dylan and Helena Springs

Walk out if it doesn't feel right,
I can tell you're only lying.
If you got something better tonight,
Don't mess up my mind with your crying.

Walk out in the rain,
Walk out with your dreams,
Walk out of my life
If it doesn't feel right
And catch the next train.
Oh, darling, walk out in the rain.

I have come from so far away
Just to put a ring on your finger.
You've said all that you've got to say,
So please don't feel the need to linger.

Walk out in the rain,
Walk out with your dreams,
Walk out of my life
If it doesn't feel right
And catch the next train.
Oh, darling, walk out in the rain.

It's rainin' inside of the city,
My poor feet have walked 'til they're sore.
If you don't want my love, it's a pity,
I guess I can't see you no more.

Walk out in the rain,
Walk out with your dreams,
Walk out of my life
If it doesn't feel right
And catch the next train.
Oh, darling, walk out in the rain.
 
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You asked for my response in PM....so FWIW

I don't know..hmm


I don't see reason, given the lovely lines in the cast, to focus so much on what you see as the dark side of 61.4. I have always thought it essential for the break, the separation where one horse makes a break from the other...it is of inner necessity. It doesn't mean it has to be forever. Neither doesit mean it is you who runs....it just happens...is happening now, you are separated from her aren't you.

21 seeks truth, and to me in this cast it looks a sincere search for truth. There must have been some imbalance some need to reassess, to find the best way forward for you which requires separation. Look at the other lines. The sharing in 61.2 not outward as yet but there is inner sympathy and 61.5 there is truth in the connection.

I've said it about all of your readings on this matter, that to me none of them have indicated that anything wrong or to your detriment is happening. Okay so you are in distress....but try to remember pain and distress are not always a sign that something is wrong. I don't think you need fear that they are not doing right by you or will not do right by you.

As I understand it they are still in the process of reassessment , they are offering you help from CPNs meantime. I think it's best just to take the help that is offered and try to remember your pain is not terminal....you can and will live through it and see better days. Also this really is an excellent reading for finding the deep truth of any matter, therefore you can have confidence that D will do her best for you. It is hard for you to remember that when she isn't available to give reassurance but you must...well you have no choice.


If I were to receive this reading in regard to someone I was receiving therapy from I'd be in no doubt that they could get to the core of the problem.

61>21 biting through with sincerity...no better cast IMO.

61.4 can feel lonely for a while but I think you just need to accept this time apart is needed for some reason.

The yang change pattern is 47 so your approach to this is via a sense of confinement and isolation. 22 is the yin pattern so the way through this may be to actually take them at their word....like what they say they are doing they are doing...you can lighten up, If you had more faith in this you could lighten up.


To lighten up isn't easy for you I know....but you could try and take some of that pain a little less seriously. You can afford to I think. :)
 

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Thank you very much Trojina. What can I say but 'thank you' since it all seems so much better. There must be something about my perceptions that get very awry at times because part of this reading really, really depressed me! Not the 61 - which I always love, nor the line 2, -- but when I saw line 4 and read the interpretations etc, I felt really distressed. I clearly have a lot to learn about I Ching because I frequently mis-read it..... Btw, I have had a couple of very good meetings with them - here at home and at the therapy place. It is just that when I am separate, everything turns negative, even sinister. Oh dear...
Thank you again.
 

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I don't think it's unusual for dark thoughts to come in in the absence of reassurance. I cannot count the number of times I think there is something wrong between me and a friend for example. I'll think I said something wrong....and how everything is wrong....and then find them greeting me happily when I see them. I ask myself where does it all come from...? Maybe partly from childhood experience ....but I wonder if you could have or carry something tangible to remind you that the darkness you feel is not the truth....not the whole truth that is. I mean in a good time find some object you like and assign it all the good feelings and make it your talisman, your reminder to yourself for when you are in dark times.


I'm not sure what kind of thing. Children have teddy bears for this purpose. Aren't they called 'transitional objects'.. That is it is so scary for the child to be alone without the parent, the teddy bear accompanies them, stands in for the missing human comforter. My theory is we could all use a transitional object now and then. I met a woman the other day who actually carries a small yellow rubber duck in her pocket. She said it reminds her to stay buoyant ....and she loves yellow. Come to think of it for a while as a teenager I did carry a small yellow rabbit in my pocket and I swear it helped.


You need something tangible to hold as a reminder that the good is still there....always. What can you use ? I mean you need a tangible reminder of reassurance. If no one is giving it to you you must give it to yourself

ps I have suggested the Clarity teddy bear before but so far none have been manufactured. I think they would sell....especially if they had hexagram t shirts on
 

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Yes, I have a 'kinder egg' sort of helicopter thingy which I got myself with the therapists blessing when I was working with her. It lost its power in all the confusion--- so maybe it needs to be blessed again....? Except I will have to find a way of blessing it myself with perhaps some kind of ceremony...?

Thanks Trojina. :)
 

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yes it will either have to be re blessed...(.in full ceremonial gown, with incense and chanting on the night of the new moon ;) )OR you will need to have another object. I guess a helicopter can symbolise freedom, above the clouds and so on. I see it as containing a kind of promise to yourself, not to abandon yourself in any way at all. Feelings of abandonment must come from infancy when if abandoned we really were helpless and abandoned.....but now there's always a grown up around (you)...always...to take care of the abandoned part (also you) . The object needs to remind you you are safe....a kinder egg helicopter could do very well !
 

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I wonder if you could have or carry something tangible to remind you that the darkness you feel is not the truth....not the whole truth that is.

Oh boy, time for sharing.
I carried this little guy in my breast pocket for over a year.
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He is called a 'weeble'
One wonderful thing about him is that he has a smile. Another is if you try to knock him over, he spins around dizzily and eventually rights himself without any effort from you. And he is there smiling again. When i was feeling wonky (anxiety) i would give him a push and just breathe and watch while the disrupting force dissapated and he returned upright and smiling. He helped me very much.

My uncle drank himself to death last summer because he never sought the help he needed to overcome the severe abuse he suffered as a child. When we buried him i put my weeble in his breast pocket near his heart.

Here is the girl version:
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You can find them on the internet or maybe a retro toy store like i did.
 

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Great idea, thanks for sharing.

But this bought a tear to my eye



My uncle drank himself to death last summer because he never sought the help he needed to overcome the severe abuse he suffered as a child. When we buried him i put my weeble in his breast pocket near his heart

How lovely you put something that had been next to your heart next to his heart.

So you had to get another weeble ?
 

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So you had to get another weeble ?

Yes, and i gave that one away too. (Under better circumstances)
Thanks for reminding me, i will be going to the weeble store today.
 

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It's a really good idea to have a few weebles isn't it....then you can pass one on occasionally to someone in need. :)
 

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The weebles theme tune


[video=youtube;ZHwVBirqD2s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZHwVBirqD2s#t=47[/video]


dig that 80s vibe
 

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