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Why is he being distant? 27.6>24

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Nourishment, line 6

Origin of nourishment. Danger, good fortune.
Fruitful to cross the great river.

Changes to Returning


I can think of two options, one that is good and the other not as ideal

Option 1 - he's focusing on work, has things he needs to do to take care of himself to return to a stable position once again, but has that focus on returning back to being more involved with me when his business is being taken care of

Option 2 - the same way we met is the same thing he wants to return to when it comes to others, or finding the novelty of another person. He wants to go back to having options because that is nourishing, he's returning to square one of finding another to be interested in

Also, I don't understand certain lines like this line 6 where there is a contradictory message i.e. danger, good fortune
What is the danger and why is it good fortune.

Is this line saying that the distancing is necessary for him right now, which can put us on edge, but that in the end it is beneficial and returning means things will go back to normal hence it being fruitful to cross the great river?

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Hello Piscean!

He needs to take distance in order to nourish(27) himself (maybe he doesn't have enough emotional resources right now). The distance puts your relationship at risk, but for good (good fortune)- then he'll be able to decide. I can't say for sure if the Return (24) is to you or to his previous life, though the first seems more likely to me.
 
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Why is he being distant? 27.6 > 24

In my experience this combination shows a person who consider themselves to be god's gift on earth. They believe that they're so super, that they can come and go as they please (24). Of course if someone is so great, they will not confine their graces to one person only (24 also says 'friends' come and go).

You ask why danger and good fortune at the same time - your question is from his perspective, what is his reason for being distant. So he knows that he's playing a dangerous game, however he feels lucky to be at this top position.

The lame excuse of being too busy with work is a classic. Please don't believe it. Nobody is so busy that they can't send a 5-second text message, for example.
 

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Hi Piscean,

"Why is he being distant?"
27.6 to 24 ~ Have you, perhaps, fallen into the Washer Machine?

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Mountain over Thunder: The Witness Position looking down on Movement Below

On the one hand, from a self-cultivation point of view, imho, it is *Nourishing* to be in the Witness Position (line 6) ~ simply Present to your felt-sense experience below (line 1) ~ because you'll 'see' Danger brewing before it becomes a problem ~ and then naturally do the Right thing ~ effortlessly ~ to bring about Good Fortune...

...and, on the other hand, it is Depleting to fall into the Washer Machine of your agitated feelings ~ becoming emotional ~ possibly eating and drinking too much ~ and saying and doing things that are distancing to the relationship?

If this is the case, then the natural response by him might be to take a step back from mutual entanglement, in order to prevent the Depletion of his own energy, too?

And, of course, his pulling away only serves to send you around for another spin...again?

So, not a healthy dynamic to fall into...but likely a great river (emotional issues) that must be crossed...as part of the healthy growth of any successful relationship?

I hope this helps!
 

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Why is he being distant? 27.6 > 24

In my experience this combination shows a person who consider themselves to be god's gift on earth. They believe that they're so super, that they can come and go as they please (24). Of course if someone is so great, they will not confine their graces to one person only (24 also says 'friends' come and go).

You ask why danger and good fortune at the same time - your question is from his perspective, what is his reason for being distant. So he knows that he's playing a dangerous game, however he feels lucky to be at this top position.

The lame excuse of being too busy with work is a classic. Please don't believe it. Nobody is so busy that they can't send a 5-second text message, for example.

I feel you are very right. It seems maybe he got what he's wanted, sex, and that's as far as it goes for him. One person is not worth committing to for him. The only issue is he's supported me in other ways and that's why i hesitate to call him out as a malicious person, but maybe on the emotional aspect he over-promised and it was just fancy dressing.
 

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I have indeed fallen into the Washing Machine too radiofreewill! And as much as I wish your answer was true Marybluesky, I feel like I was wrong on that one. He has plenty time and energy to invest, he's just not willing
 

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Why is he being distant

Piscean,

Your situation sounds very similar to mine.

I like the way Marybluesky, Diamanda and Radiofreewill have interpreted the lines and given their insights which in my opinion comes from their understanding of the lines drawn from their own lived experiences, worldviews, values, outlook on life and general attitude etc.

That is why if you go through forum you begin to see patterns of those whose comments are more positive/optimistic and others that are more negative, logical, realist or commonly accepted. And as we all tend to believe what we want to believe, that is what we will get.

I'm more of a positive/optimist and my attitude has determined my altitude in my personal relationships, including the one I have with a man who seems similar to yours...I accept him and our casual relationship as is because that's all I have time for as well - he is a beautiful human and having options nourishes him which I respect and would be able to explain if we were to ever talk in person. Online is too lengthy.

You can't truly believe what you don't agree with...and others may not agree with what you believe in either but each to their own.

This is your one and only life, at the end of the day you just need to enjoy it, and make the most of it with the people who matter to you the most for as long as you can, no regrets.

P.S

From my own personal experience and humble opinion- yes someone can be busy enough and going through sooo much stuff that they should not be expected to text or check in 24/7 just because we have cellphones and social media nowadays.

I believe people have a right to rest and withdraw without explanation, because it is their life, their choice but I know you only ask out of care and concern which is completely normal/understandable.

Try not too worry too much, trust and believe in yourself and you will be able to trust and believe in others.

"It is character that attracts good fortune. Blessings occur when relationships are balanced with sincerity." Anon
 

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Piscean,

Your situation sounds very similar to mine.

I like the way Marybluesky, Diamanda and Radiofreewill have interpreted the lines and given their insights which in my opinion comes from their understanding of the lines drawn from their own lived experiences, worldviews, values, outlook on life and general attitude etc.

That is why if you go through forum you begin to see patterns of those whose comments are more positive/optimistic and others that are more negative, logical, realist or commonly accepted. And as we all tend to believe what we want to believe, that is what we will get.

I'm more of a positive/optimist and my attitude has determined my altitude in my personal relationships, including the one I have with a man who seems similar to yours...I accept him and our casual relationship as is because that's all I have time for as well - he is a beautiful human and having options nourishes him which I respect and would be able to explain if we were to ever talk in person. Online is too lengthy.

You can't truly believe what you don't agree with...and others may not agree with what you believe in either but each to their own.

This is your one and only life, at the end of the day you just need to enjoy it, and make the most of it with the people who matter to you the most for as long as you can, no regrets.

P.S

From my own personal experience and humble opinion- yes someone can be busy enough and going through sooo much stuff that they should not be expected to text or check in 24/7 just because we have cellphones and social media nowadays.

I believe people have a right to rest and withdraw without explanation, because it is their life, their choice but I know you only ask out of care and concern which is completely normal/understandable.

Try not too worry too much, trust and believe in yourself and you will be able to trust and believe in others.

"It is character that attracts good fortune. Blessings occur when relationships are balanced with sincerity." Anon

Totally, I initially interpreted similar to Mary and I feel there may have still been some truth to it because he does have some life stress, but not entirely as a reason to stop texting me the way he did yesterday. The reason is because I've seen him online saying hi to strangers. Today we had a conversation, he said he's finished with that which I believe, but he is still being distant. It certainly doesn't feel like the same level of commitment I liked in the beginning. While he is staying, he is not necessarily as enthusiastic as before. So it feels like a limbo/let down. I recently cast and got some good lines on waiting with confidence so i'm keeping on and trying to focus on my spirituality to help remove my identity attachments with this situation.

While I don't believe him to be a person of bad intent necessarily, I think there's a level of carelessness that is making me feel slighted. I cast hexagram 12 (varying lines) on two occasions and one was with this communication business, the name of the hex is Blocked, and it certainly felt like that. I just don't know if it was intentional or unintentional. I'm keeping my hands out of that pie for now.

So i'm assured by his words, focusing on remaining objective about his character, not judging or labelling him, and trusting to allow the course of events unfold while I focus on what I need to maintain stability in life.

Thank you much!
 

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More to consider:

1-If he wants a casual relationship, and you are on the hunt for him,
Maybe he simply doesn't want to be eaten.

2-Maybe he is afraid of you...
[video=youtube_share;q5x6XZ-CcKU]https://youtu.be/q5x6XZ-CcKU[/video]

3-Or maybe he doesn't want to have a real relationship with you,
which entails a financial commitment, where he would be the $ource of nouri$hment.

What do you think?
 

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I know this isn't my reading Moss Elk... but it could have been. It is so uncanny that you posted this song because as a teen before I had any relationships the advice my father gave me was to not fall in love or love any man. He said to love them and leave them. At the time I didn't think what he said was good advice as I wanted to love and be loved by others including a partner.

I met my first 'partner' at 18. Dad told him I was a Man Eater but I hadn't been. Things didn't work out between us and I have pretty much been single my whole adult life.

I told my dad yesterday, that he had told my first partner that I was a Maneater.

Bizarre timing re: your post above for me.

Piscean, you write so well. My previous post was a bit rushed and l wrote it late at night.

By the way - my current love interest is Piscean and I'm a Sag.
 

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