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innertruth

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This was coming long...
Why Men I fall in Love with Never Love me Back??

I received 14.3.4.5 to 61

please what do you think about this combination and I am not sure if Yi is addressing my shortcomings
 
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14.3.4.5 > 61
Very interesting question and answer. A whole lotta (14) love (61)?

Line 14.3 describes how someone who has a lot to give, gives a lot - while someone who is "poor", can't do that. You can't expect to receive a lot of love from someone who doesn't have it in them.

Line 14.4 - not beating one's drum, not showing off and not boasting about one's great qualities. No blame.

14.5 - truth and trust when associating with others and when you're powerful (the character shows a woman with a weapon). Good fortune.


So indeed I wouldn't seek any shortcomings in you, other than the advice in 14.3.
I like line 14.5, because it shows that persisting in truth/love will bring you good luck at some point.
Keeping fingers crossed for you!
 

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How curious, I would disagree with diamanda this time.
After reading the question, my thoughts were diametrically opposite.

Instead of sharing your heart/soul (.3) you are keeping it under lock (.4).
Open up more, be sincere (.5) and then the feedback will appear.

14.5 → 1 (Creative), Legge:
Shows the sincerity of its subject reciprocated by that of all the others (represented in the hexagram).
Let him display a proper majesty, and there will be good fortune.


61 does say that inner truth moves even pigs and fishes, that link of some deep and basic level that unites all of us. I don't know you personally of course, but maybe you are not opening up enough?

It maybe that I'm biased after reading neighboring thread on 33.6 though :confused:
 
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diamanda

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Tim, I agree with your very good point that there's a need to open up more and display one's qualities. It's this very line which brings good fortune.

However, there's a need also to heed line 14.3 and not offer lots to people who have nothing to give. So, yes, give a lot and open up, to a person who is likewise.
 

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Didn't see the line that way.
Decided to check other translations, and looks like this is what diamanda is speaking about.

14.3 Takashima:
A duke is invited to the royal table. Small-minded men can not [be invited].
Interpretation. “A duke is invited to the royal table,” but it will be injurious to invite small-minded men.
 

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Thank you!
I started off as seeing faults in myself, maybe im not giving much, but on the other side even when i showed n gave much true interest and love, it didnt work...so it brings me to the point, that Diamanda is right, you cannot always get what you want...it should be very mutual and moreover some higher purpose, like what I see in it, friendship, common views and much more..
For second line...i again took it as advice not to rush or try to make impression...
Thank you...i can be quite reserved otherwise..because of constant doubts and thoughts as of now...
 

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Thank you Diamanda!
Great point...should be likewise spirit and level of sincerity on both ends
 

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Tim K, sometimes I am quite reserved when just dont see any potential..or wait for the other to be more involved...or starting to doubt all
 
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maybe im not giving much, but on the other side even when i showed n gave much true interest and love, it didnt work...

That's the thing, when dealing with someone who is emotionally poor, it doesn't matter if you give or not give, if you show your value or not show it. To them it would mean nothing, and they would still be unable to offer you anything. You need to learn to recognise this type of person and avoid them. Easier said than done...
 

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14.3 "The love in your heart is not put there to stay for love is not love till you give it away."
Love freely without thought of whether you are loved in return.

14. 4 It may be the one you love may actually have goals and ideals that are very different from yours. No blame, nobody's fault.

14.5. Make yourself available but don't chase after boys.

Bottom line - Sounds to me like you are being encouraged that you needn't not love someone just because they don't return your feelings. It's not a personal rejection. You should make yourself available but be a bit detached - Let them discover you.

61. You are probably more in touch with your feelings and recognize the potential for love more quickly than the average bear.
 

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