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Hi all,

I've been seeing this guy for about 3 weeks who I quite like...things are progressing rather slowly though..

I'm puzzled over the response I received to the question 'will he be mine?' 30.5.6 > 49. Hex 30 seems auspicious but I'm not sure of the significance of 49 in relation to it? any thoughts would be very much appreciated! There's not too many examples of this combination in the forums...

I know I should not ask yes or no questions but the Yi has given me clear responses in the past to these sorts of questions...thanks!

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You will probably not like what am I about to say and I hope I am wrong, but from your reading, it doesn't look like things are going to work out.

The 5th line is one I've had before. It is not a "nice" line. The good fortune here is of the sort that is only clear in hindsight. I had it once about a guy and it foresaw the moment when I'd realised it was a dead end and had to let him go. It felt awful at the time but it was also a release. In hindsight, there were many reasons why this guy was not right for me, so it was indeed good fortune. It just felt like the opposite at the time.

The 6th line I've had when I had to change direction on something. The "leader" in this case (I am using the Wilhelm translation) was my wrong attitude / hopes / aspirations and it was saying I need to get rid of that but that some aspects could still be saved. Maybe a friendship where I'd once thought there'd be a relationship. 49 is revolution - an overhaul. To me, that implies that there will be some upheaval coming your way in regards to this issue. You will change your attitude somehow.

If I am right, well, remember the 5th line says "good fortune". Even if it will feel bad, know that there are better things coming your way.
 
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Hi Val75,

To me this is not a yes or no answer. The reading seems to be giving you advice in how to proceed. To me 49 radical change could be the background, are you currently going through a radical change? Hexagram 30 Clarity to me says find or ask for clarity of where the relationship is headed. In the lines show genuine feelings. Auspicious reading, it could go either way. Maybe try asking a more open ended question. I love the sticky on relationship questions on here. When I really follow it, helps give me so much clarity.
 

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I chuckled when I saw Yi's answer to such an ambiguous question. It wasn't the yes/no so much as the idea of ownership of another person, that sparked amusement. You probably intended it more romantically than actually owning, but there's often truth in taking things literally.

Will he be mine?

You catch him in a net of drama, give titles and stigmas, wield a happy sword when you win him.

I personally think there's more than a hint of sarcasm in Yi's answer, which made me chuckle when I read it.

Oh, the 49 of it, I think it literally meant to revolutionize the way you think of owning and relationships, possessiveness, etc. 30 also implies dependence, and in this case, the possibility of becoming codependent.
 

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You will probably not like what am I about to say and I hope I am wrong, but from your reading, it doesn't look like things are going to work out.

The 5th line is one I've had before. It is not a "nice" line. The good fortune here is of the sort that is only clear in hindsight. I had it once about a guy and it foresaw the moment when I'd realised it was a dead end and had to let him go. It felt awful at the time but it was also a release. In hindsight, there were many reasons why this guy was not right for me, so it was indeed good fortune. It just felt like the opposite at the time.

The 6th line I've had when I had to change direction on something. The "leader" in this case (I am using the Wilhelm translation) was my wrong attitude / hopes / aspirations and it was saying I need to get rid of that but that some aspects could still be saved. Maybe a friendship where I'd once thought there'd be a relationship. 49 is revolution - an overhaul. To me, that implies that there will be some upheaval coming your way in regards to this issue. You will change your attitude somehow.

If I am right, well, remember the 5th line says "good fortune". Even if it will feel bad, know that there are better things coming your way.

Thanks for your sharing your experience with the 5th line...frankly I very much doubt that this relationship will work out also! funny enough this doesn't bother me all that much...cheers :)
 

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Hi Val75,

To me this is not a yes or no answer. The reading seems to be giving you advice in how to proceed. To me 49 radical change could be the background, are you currently going through a radical change? Hexagram 30 Clarity to me says find or ask for clarity of where the relationship is headed. In the lines show genuine feelings. Auspicious reading, it could go either way. Maybe try asking a more open ended question. I love the sticky on relationship questions on here. When I really follow it, helps give me so much clarity.

Thanks blue_angel, I'm not sure if I'm going through a radical change...perhaps i'm too close to the situation and i can't see it at the moment..
what do you mean 'in the lines show genuine feelings'? x cheers
 

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I chuckled when I saw Yi's answer to such an ambiguous question. It wasn't the yes/no so much as the idea of ownership of another person, that sparked amusement. You probably intended it more romantically than actually owning, but there's often truth in taking things literally.

Will he be mine?

You catch him in a net of drama, give titles and stigmas, wield a happy sword when you win him.

I personally think there's more than a hint of sarcasm in Yi's answer, which made me chuckle when I read it.

Oh, the 49 of it, I think it literally meant to revolutionize the way you think of owning and relationships, possessiveness, etc. 30 also implies dependence, and in this case, the possibility of becoming codependent.

I can tell you my question definitely wasn't intended in terms of owning another person, it was more towards the lines of whether we will be involved in a romantic relationship, I guess I perhaps oversimplified the question!

What do you mean by 'you can catch him in a net of drama, give titles and stigmas, wield a happy sword when you win him'?
thanks!
 

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I suggest you put a little thought into the symbolism, and read a few different versions of 30 lines 5 and 6. Hint: one of 30's meanings is to catch a bird in a net. Another is dependency.
 

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Two cents worth

You are my first client on this site that I discuss a reading in English many months ago. I will provide the following feedback. For relationships, there is a reason and a season for the correct things to happen in life.

起卦时间:2013年07月26日04时50分
起卦农历:癸巳年六月十九日寅时
神煞:天乙—卯巳 福星—辰 日禄—子 羊刃—亥 驿马—亥 桃花—午 华盖—丑
干支:癸巳年 己未月 癸巳日 甲寅时
旬空:午未  子丑  午未  子丑


六神  伏神    离宫:离为火(六冲)     坎宫:泽火革
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
白虎       ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟己巳火 世○→ ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙丁未土  
滕蛇       ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙己未土  ×→ ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财丁酉金  
勾陈       ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财己酉金     ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼丁亥水 世
朱雀       ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼己亥水 应   ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼己亥水  
青龙       ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙己丑土     ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙己丑土  
玄武       ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母己卯木     ▅▅▅▅▅ 父母己卯木 应

He is not yours.
Line 6 host line yang line with white tiger
Vs
Line 5 guest line yang line with bird
You two are not in the same frequency and has disagreement.
You have someone else on your mind. He think of only himself.
30.3 hai water; 49.3& 49.4 hai water conflicts with si fire in the house of marriage. He will not enter your house of marriage.

The issue may be over funds (child line 30.2/30.5 are in conflict, so is 49.2 and 49.6). These earth elements are empty under the house of spouse and also house of marriage. Child line issue may mean 3 possibilities (a) a child, probably not; (b) your soul; (c) materialistic capital.

In hex 49, the upper trigram is tui metal, which is suppressed by the lower trigram li fire.
體克用,可成。但成之遲。
In English, it means that it takes a long time to even reach an agreement to move forward with this relationship.

Hex 49 is equivalent to 10 of wands
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If related to relationships The Ten of Wands may suggest that you are taking the full responsibility for its continuing success. One partner makes all the effort while the other makes none. You could be working hard all day and then have to come home to housework, cooking and screaming children, while your partner sails in the door and puts their feet up. You are tired and frazzled with no time to yourself. In your relationship, things may be very different behind closed doors than they are in the open. You may be concealing problems, incidents or issues from friends and families. Your partner may also be hiding something from you. Then again, your partner may have upped and gone, leaving you holding the baby and having to go it alone.
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My advice:
驿马—亥 49.3 and 49.4, man with the movement star. He is leaving at the inner and outer door position.
Line 6 earth (materialistic things) provides the wealth and female comfort in line 5 metal.
Line 5 provide line 4 man with hai water, leaving.

Do not touch this type of relationship with a ten feet pole. Line 6 is wei earth empty under the year and day of the reading. You simply cannot afford to fuel him in the long term.

With man, an average man is supposed to be responsible, and also a good provider with potential for a happy family future in terms of materialistic wealth, empathy, and loving care.

This hexagram may also reflects that you are too occupied with your career. Work on your soft side, if you do your best in seeking a good partner with your common sense and your positive qualities, god will do the rest.
 

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Long yi, you are once again so accurate in your reading, it's amazing!

Yes, there is someone else I am also interested in, and from what I've gathered so far I'm aware that I need to stay away from this guy as he appears to think of only himself and it is me making most of the effort.

There is a material issue to the story - he can't stay in this country as his visa will be running out soon and we do appear to be in different wavelengths.

Thanks for your insight x
 

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