Will the United Kingdom stay in the European Union or vote "out" on June 23? 39uc.

[mirian]

Hi Yasmin, we suppose the campaign will resume after a period of mourning. This is obviously a major incident, very tragic loss of life, also raising questions about personal security of MPs, as reports suggest that they are increasingly being threatened, harassed, for various reasons. There are so many implications, but also this can have a strong impact on British politics. So your reading might apply within this context.

 

[Tohpol]

Hi Yasmin,

Just to clarify the news: the MP who was murdered was not campaigning, she was working in her local constituency (as MPs usually do). The man accused of murdering her is not a "brexiteer". He is being described by British media as a "loner" with a history of mental issues. He lives in a former council estate, which in Britain means he is from a low income background. Obviously, investigations continue, and this is tragic and sad, but no one at this point can connect this to the referendum. Campaigning from both sides has been suspended as a matter of respect.

This is a good example of how news can easily be politicised. My thoughts are with her poor family.

 

[Trojina]

I do think her death is inevitably going to influence the vote in favour of remaining. This would be on an almost subconscious level. The reason I say this is Brexit already has connections with less than savoury influences shall we say, the hint of racism in some of it's campaigners, the appeal to emotionalism as in 'lets go back to the 1950s' mentality, the less than credible 'facts', their quite ludicrous objection to the Head of Bank of England making his view on the impact on the economy clear. I mean that is just trying to muzzle what we need to hear. Also the absurd objections about the deadline for voting being extended. Good Grief how can they object to more people voting. All these things make me uncomfortable. Also of course feelings seem to run far higher with the Brexit lot which is why no doubt someone thought her killer said 'Britain first'. A remain campaigner just wouldn't get so extreme because there is so much less emotionalism on the remain side.

What I am saying is Cox's tragic death will influence the psychology of the undecided...it has influenced mine. You might say that's not logical because her killer was not in his right mind but this incident just makes me even less comfortable with Brexit than I did already and I think it will influence others. Just the fact he was reported to have said 'Britain first' is going to stick in people's minds. Also she has already become a martyr. She was by all accounts a very good person who put her constituents first. There are pictures of her on the news with her small children. People naturally and unwittingly will tend to side with such a person when they have been unlawfully killed. What I'm trying to say is whether this man did or didn't have any connection with Brexit will make no difference, the impact is huge in how people, especially those who are wavering might feel about the remain/leave campaign.

In a similar way the Orlando shootings were not done in connection with Isis from what I've heard, they were done by a man not in his right mind yet they have triggered huge solidarity amongst the gay community. In a similar way I feel this woman Jo Cox's murder is going to create solidarity with all she stood for. It may not be a conscious thing but it is going to have an effect in my view.

 

[Tohpol]

That's pretty much exactly the situation we have now. Let's just say that politics, media and human belief thrives on opportunism. And if this event has influenced your mind away from a former position along with analyzing the essential principles proposed by either camp, toward fear and reaction to extremes, then that's not a good outcome and should be resisted.

 

[mirian]

If there is any decency left in politics - I am sorry for getting more skeptical by the minute - so I can only hope that Remain don't try to capitalise on the horrible death of this woman. I agree with trojina, though, that it will have an impact on the referendum. But, personally, I think that is a shame that such an important decision will be made on grounds of emotions and fear. We might see voters regretting their decision in years to come, once the smoke screen is dissipated (if that ever happens of course).

 

[mirian]

The result of the referendum tomorrow:

Remain Hex 33.2.3.5.6 > 40

Leave Hex 38.1.2 > 35

There can only be one decision, it is either IN or OUT. Give me a picture of which one is going to be:

Hex 47.2.6 > 12

 

[loverofknowledge]

That is tough to say, even based on the readings.
From the first reading, I might infer that it will be Remain, since it seems to counsel a strategy of withdrawal from conflict 33 in order to be delivered 40 (that is victorious) in the end.
Yet 38.1.2 to 35 could be a yes to Leave. The Brexit partisans are estranged and will make progress in the vote. The last reading describes a cruel battle leading to stagnation and ill will.
It sounds from the polls like it's evenly split stay/go , among the English.

The result of the referendum tomorrow:

Remain Hex 33.2.3.5.6 > 40

Leave Hex 38.1.2 > 35

There can only be one decision, it is either IN or OUT. Give me a picture of which one is going to be:

Hex 47.2.6 > 12

 

[mirian]

Yes, loverofknowledge, that is a tough one! I have been thinking about this reading and still don't see it as a result. Since last night, when I did the casting, I am still having the impression that this is a picture of how the day unfolds. Looking that way it makes a lot of sense (considering readings for both sides).

I will do another reading after leaving the polling station later on.

 

[Yasmin]

Interesting and hard to read, probably because the result will be at the wire and the issue is not decided yet. My attempt as a non British person, not involved in the vote

Remain: 33.2.3.5.6>40 those who vote remain choose a strategic withdrawal from this battle. Even if they are not entirely pleased with EU (33.3), they feel it's for the best for now. They cast their vote (40) and return to their normal lives asap, figuring they have done what they could.

Brexit: 38.1.2>35. Those who vote Brexit feel estranged from Europe (38) and that it is progress to get out (35). 38.1 and 2 I find hard to read. Line 1: perhaps the belief that there is no need to chase the advantages of EU, like free trade, subsidies etc...because UK will get them back soon enough anyway. 38.2 it's a narrow call.

Outcome: 47.2.6>12. 47 is all about feeling imprisonned, but in truth it's in our own mind. Maybe this reflects the British feeling of feeling prisoners of EU regulations etc... 47.2 feeling constrained in the middle of plenty. An attitude problem? 42.6 tied in by old decisions, wondering whether to move forward or not, if there will be regret. 12 stagnation. To me this reads like a bitter inner conflict about staying in or leaving, and it results in status quo - stagnation. But in 47.6, it could go either way.

But in fAct, with the two camps evenly split, the decision makers will be the 12% undecided. So I asked: how will the undecided vote? 23UC. Wow! Splitting apart. That is loud and clear! So maybe that will tilt the balance towards Brexit.

 

[mirian]

Yes, Yasmin the polls say that British voters are split down the middle. Overall, I tend to agree with your interpretation as I don't see this reading as a prediction of the result. As for 47.2.6 I see as the pressure upon voters to make this huge decision with so many untill not knowing which way to go up to the last minute. I think line 6 is just saying oh well, off you go, just move and cast your vote, enough of this. But then you had hex 23un. Well, I don't know, but it could also go either way.

 

[Tohpol]

Britain won't be going anywhere. That's for certain in my view.

But then...Unpredictability can hit even the most probable of outcomes...:bows:

 

[Trojina]

I have heard for a close indication of the state of play look to the betting odds not the polls.

I spoke to several women today who still weren't sure. I have just been and cast my vote.

 

[Tohpol]

I have just been and cast my vote.

And so it was done. The firmaments opened, continents shifted and the Lord spake unto the Brexites and Remain-in-ites: Trojina HAS cast her lot...

Now we must simply wait...

 

[mirian]

This was done at about 4.30pm when I was still at work, before voting. And blimey me this was a prediction

Result for Remain: Hex 24.1 > 2
Result for Leave: Hex 64.2.4.6 > 2

This was just a few minutes ago, after voting:

Remain Hex 39un
Leave Hex 37.6 > 63

And this is when I asked the results that will be announced tomorrow (counting system will work through the night and official numbers are expected as early as morning hours).

Remain Hex 12.4.5 > 23
Leave Hex 19.2.5 > 3

 

[Trojina]

Ha ha Topal...well I said I had voted because Rosada asked me

Looking at the answer Trojina got asking which way she should vote. 40.Liberation leading to 12.Stagnation sounds to me like leaving the EU would not benefit England. It will be interesting to know what you decide, T, and also if you have any odd experience around your actual voting - like if it turns out to be hard to get to the polls that day? Like does it turn out to be hard to Liberate yourself from whatever you are doing to get there?

I had no trouble in arriving at the polling station. I took my piece of paper to the booth. I made my mark. I checked it (unnecessarily). I carried it to the box. I posted it. As I left I heard murmurs and exclamations "Trojina has voted", the sky darkened.

I'm not going to be leaping for joy either way because there were points I disagreed with for both sides and points I agreed with for both sides. But in the end one has to make a choice one way or the other hence 40. I did give it quite a lot of thought.

Britain won't be going anywhere. That's for certain in my view.

I agree. I would be very surprised if we leave.

 

[Tohpol]

Geeze Mirian you're putting Yi through its paces.... All the readings are merging into one at this stage...But the whole thread been interesting nonetheless.

 

[Tohpol]

"Trojina has voted", the sky darkened.

Yes, I felt it. Something shifted in the Matrix....

 

[mirian]

I have had a full day at work, barely had time to analise the readings, so I just said to the Yi "please bear with me"

There you go, it is all over now. Overall, I see my today's readings as saying that Remain will win, but somehow Leave will make huge gains. We will see tomorrow anyway.

 

[Tohpol]

I have had a full day at work, barely had time to analise the readings, so I just said to the Yi "please bear with me"

Yes, the Yi is very understanding in that way . Well, tomorrow all the readings will be brought into sharper focus.

 

[loverofknowledge]

I'm keeping my eyes peeled -- since it's only late afternoon where I am, I' m happy to ring you up by phone, once the results are in -- so that you can sleep without worries.

 

[Yasmin]

Sterling has been rallying against the US dollar, which suggests that the markets are betting on Remain winning. Enough speculating, we will know in 7 hours time more or less.

When I asked "how will the undecided vote" and got 23UC, I thought "splitting apart from EU". But it occurs to me that an alternative interpretation could be "they will be split down the middle too"...

Which goes to show that using Yi for predictions Is not that practical! Not in a tie anyway. But it does give a flavour of the background, the issues surrounding the question. A lot of obstacles 39 came up in all those readings, obstacles to staying in, to leaving...

 

[mirian]

LEAVE has won! Everyone is truly amazed. Last night, looking back upon my readings for yesterday, I nearly said that this was going to happen, but I dismissed as too emotionally involved. But there you are. The readings from yesterday really tally with this result (hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it

 

[Yasmin]

Well, for future reference, 23UC definitely meant "splitting apart" and not "split down the middle".
And a brave new world awaits... I think in the next few days, I may well start a new thread on the consequences of Brexit.

 

[Vissino]

I am really shocked about the Brexit but your answers received were absolutely clear about the result.

 

[Vissino]

Ashteroid your answer 8.4/45 suprised me...
I would say that it was clear that Britain will remain in EU.
Finally, 45 " Thus the superior man renews his weapons in order to meet the unforeseen. "
or 45.4
"The man rallies the people to the country's service. This brings good fortune to himself, though he does not actively seek it."
"Sometimes in striving for unity, we find it necessary to go alone"

interesting..

 

[Tohpol]

LEAVE has won! Everyone is truly amazed. Last night, looking back upon my readings for yesterday, I nearly said that this was going to happen, but I dismissed as too emotionally involved. But there you are. The readings from yesterday really tally with this result (hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it

I am utterly amazed. The readings did tally. But I really wasn't expecting this at all for a whole host of reasons.

 

[mirian]

This was done at about 4.30pm when I was still at work, before voting. And blimey me this was a prediction

Result for Remain: Hex 24.1 > 2
Result for Leave: Hex 64.2.4.6 > 2

This was the one that I thought that predicted the result.

24.1 for Remain saying go back to where you were before all of that and 64.2.4.6 for Leave saying yes you will make it but don't get carried away. In short. There is more to the reading than that but that's just in short how the result was predicted. But I just didn't trust my own interpretation.

 

[Tohpol]

Interesting. I asked about whether or not Britain would leave the EU before I went to bed last night and received:

12.5>35

Freedom from stagnation - but advancing with care...

But before anyone gets too excited (or depressed depending on which way you voted) I'd just like to say note that the referendum is non-binding. It's advisory, not mandatory. Parliament can still have the final say along with a process which can take up to two years. I think there's going to be a lot of political wrangling going on yet while...

 

[Trojina]

I don't think quite frankly that any of these answers in this thread or any other on the topic predicted anything. For a start how many times was the same question asked by different people on several threads ? They all of course got individual answers as they will if a whole bunch of people now ask this

... I think in the next few days, I may well start a new thread on the consequences of Brexit.

I think all answers received so far only appear to make sense with hindsight although I don't even see them making sense even with hindsight but then I wouldn't have to start with since I believe Yi answers the individual. That aside, surely even if you believe Yi is telling you all about election results isn't it clear that when everyone asks the same thing they will get different answers ?

Even looking back at this thread the same question has been asked multiple times so do you take your pick as to which fits ? I mean if you list the number of answers on this thread alone you could make them mean anything. Plus there is a whole other thread on the subject started by Rosada.

Now no doubt we will have multiple casts and threads on the future of Britain under Brexit. May as well just have one thread where everyone does a cast on the future for Britain.

I'll let you all get on with it in peace but did want to say that if you have two possible options, In or Out and do 30 casts on those options you cannot really pick a few out and say they were predictions, not IMO anyway.

I apologise if I have offended anyone but that is my view.

 

[Trojina]

Topal had posted under my name weird. So I deleted his comments under my name.