Yi Jing hiatus. Is it possible to ask too many questions?

[grndultimte]

Hello forum,

Has anyone out there ever taken a extended break from Yi? If so, how did you decide you needed one? I'm thinking of taking one.

Why you ask? Because as of late I think I may be getting in my own way, maybe I'm asking too many questions? I feel I have no idea what Yi is telling me lately. I'll give you an example:

I'm at a cross roads right now in my life. Do I continue looking for a job or do I take a chance to fulfill my dreams. For a moment, let's not concern ourselves with resources. I asked Yi as straight forward as possible-

"I don't know what to do right now. Continue looking for a job or start my business? Please show me?"
Hex# 49 9 at 4th, 9 at 5th, changes into Hex# 36

Skinning/Revolution/Ko-

O.K., sounds promising right? But I don't know how to interpret the answer? Maybe I've lost my mind....but I have to be careful NOT to *read into* Yi what I want. In 9 at the 4th, what does "You are in a position to transform the imaginative basis of your world." mean? I'm saying to myself "Gee, it looks like the Yi is giving you the green light...go start your business!!!!" Is this impulsive? So then to add some clarity (LOL....real loud!!!!), I decided to ask just one more little question you know to really solidify things. So I asked-

"Please tell me what 2005 holds in store for my business?"

Hex# 8 6 at initial, 6 at 3, 6 at top...changes into Hex# 37

Boys and girls....I have no idea how to read these lines. It seems that they go from good to bad to worse. 6 at initial is talking about becoming apart of some group. What group? There is love and caring...o.k. dig it. But then 6 at 3 is telling me that the people I'm involved with will do me no good. They are the wrong people for me. Leave now before they do you harm.

What people Yi???? What group is good for me, than changes to being volatile? Then in 6 at top Yi is frankly telling me that this group is not for me at all. It has no goal and no purpose. Leave now or face disaster????

I don't understand these changing lines. This is why I think I need a Yi Jing hiatus. I think I'm completely clouding my intentions if that's possible. If anyone can offer ANY insights into these castings great!!! And if anyone can share there experiences with taking a break even better.

grndultimte,

ultimtely cnfused

 

[calumet]

49 offers the image of a snake shedding its skin, a bird molting. You've outgrown something and it's time to be rid of it. What is that? I can't say; the image is for you to contemplate. 49 differs (subtly?) from 23 in that 23 implies the need for a complete and possibly unexpected stripping or pruning--preparing a corpse after death, for example. The change implied in 49 is an expected part of a cycle, a seasonal cycle, almost. What kinds of cycles do you see in your work? Taken as a whole, what patterns/cycles/seasons does your work display? I don't mean, "If this is April, we're busy because it's tax season." I mean, "Hmmm, it looks like I change jobs every 5 years." Whatever patterns you identify--their time has come again. Lines 4 and 5 give you an indication how this change should be effected--follow your own counsel, not that of others, but do attempt to influence others. The 36 indicates that the change should be something that will hide your light or will/should lead you to withdraw or become less visible in some way. Again, I don't know the situation well enough to say what exactly that means; but those, I'd suggest, are the main images to contemplate: an evolutionary (not revolutionary) change coming from within yourself and influencing others, that causes you to withdraw in some way.

The 8 reinforces that you're to become involved in a group. The lines say, don't talk about it; do it, lead by example. Choose the group wisely, and then stand behind them and your choice.

If the Yi's got you stumped and you can't make sense of what it's telling you, then by all means take a break. It'll be there when you get back.

 

[martin]

Hi Grnd,

Answers to this-or-that questions are difficult to interpret, but I think that 49 to 36 emphasizes the importance of others. They appear in the two lines as people who believe in you and this contrasts with 36 in which one is isolated and invisible.
Perhaps the Yi is saying: starting you own business is not very different from looking for a job. In both cases being visible and communication / cooperation with others are essential. You can't do it alone.
Do you have a tendency to do it alone? Are you professionally not visible enough and more or less isolated at the moment?

8 to 37, the answer to your second question, seems to confirm the emphasis on others. Both hexagrams are relational and 8 could be read as 'networking' in this case (me thinks). I take line 6 as a warning (not a prediction) and I like Brad's translation "Joining with them with no priorities Unfortunate" and what Calumet wrote: "Choose your group wisely".

 

[martin]

Oh, and if you feel that you are married to the Yi, it's definitely time for a break.

 

[martin]

Oops, I misquoted you Calumet. It should be: Choose THE group wisely.

Since I read in another thread "I am a fair-skinned, freckly natural redhead, and my forebears were Irish. Have I mentioned that I'm not an especially good person to cross?" I've become a bit more careful.

Still, a calumet is a peace pipe, I think. True?

 

[dobro p]

""I don't know what to do right now. Continue looking for a job or start my business? Please show me? Hex# 49 9 at 4th, 9 at 5th, changes into Hex# 36"

What Calumet said about Hex 36.

49.4 talks about a new set of orders for you from Fate and how that's fortunate; 49.5 is the best line in the hexagram - it talks about how you don't even have to consult the oracle on this one - you've captured the truth of the situation already.

All this is in the context of Hex 49, which means throwing off old forms and outmoded ways of doing things.

This sounds very much like throwing off the familiar job cuz it's outgrown its usefulness. I can't see another interpretation, given the situation you've outlined here.

 

[grndultimte]

"Hmmm, it looks like I change jobs every 5 years."

*Calumet* yes this has been a pattern of mine since I lost my last business. When I was 29 I lost my business, my life seemed to be falling apart, I even lost my relationship (a very painful time). But ever since then I've been at a job a few months, 6 months, the last one I was at was a year and a 1/2. Quite frankly I have not been happy over the last few years. The risk and the rewards were higher when I had a business, and perhaps I was more fulfilled. But lately I don't know if I still "have it".

"Do you have a tendency to do it alone?"

Absolutely *Martin*. The funny think is that yes, right now I'm extremely isolated. I have my family to a degree but they don't "get it" 100%. They worry about me and have a tendency to go the "safe" road- get a job....quick!!!! I'm scared SH**LESS right now. I have no capital, no advisors, no board, etc. I have EVERYTHING that my "rational" mind needs to make me stop!!

"All this is in the context of Hex 49, which means throwing off old forms and outmoded ways of doing things."

*Dobro* I don't know, maybe it is time to stop short changing myself and go for broke.

grnd

 

[candid]

Grnd,

"But lately I don't know if I still "have it".

At 32, you're just now getting it! The longest mile is from the mind to the heart. Then from the heart to the gut takes another decade or two. A tree grows in proportion to its roots. The head, heart and gut is a 'group', and a family.

 

[grndultimte]

To a degree I agree *Candid*. But I don't feel like I have the strength/drive to make my dreams happen. I feel the older I get, the more sensitive I become to life, but it feels the less drive I have maybe? I think I'm so overtaken by irrational fear right now, that I can't make sence of my situation. I think that by consulting Yi I've clouded my sight. This is why I should take a break from Yi....I have no idea how to communicate with it lately.

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[candid]

Well it seems like when you dig into something, you REALLY dig into it. If so, I definitely relate well to that, Grnd. Some are long distance runners and some are sprinters. Neither is right or wrong. It?s just how each is wired. It's definitely better to call a 'time out' rather than to spin yourself out and wear yourself down.

The irrational fear you speak of is completely natural, in case you may be comforted by that. It's sorta like playing connecting the dots, except you don't know where the next dot is until you land on it. 100 Yi readings will not help you here. You just have to gather and follow all your inner resources. Holding to our center, like the hub of a wheel, is the very best that we can do in such times.

Hang in there.

 

[jeanystar]

Grnd,
If you ask the yi an either-or-question such as "should I look for a job or start my business" it is difficult to assess the response. I would ask one at a time......

I think your 8.1.3.6 is kind of reflecting your confusion....49 is a transformation and sometimes that process is not a smooth one, altho it is a hopeful one.

32?? I echo Candid, you are JUST beginning. Personally, I find that *confusion* about which way to progress is usually a signal to stop planning too much or trying to figure things out. Do the obvious, take it step by step, and let the path unfold in front of you a little at a time. Be attentive to synchronicities and cultivate an inner blueprint of how you would like to *feel* once this process of transformation is complete. Have a general intention about what this new condition would look/feel like.......Life has a funny/wonderful way of plumping out the details once a general intention is formed.

I started a whole new career at age 42 and now, at 52, I am looking to molt again. Life is about renewal....and so is hex 49. We are never too old to be made new. You can trust this truth, even when you are (temporarily) feeling stuck.

 

[cellofellow]

Generally, about whether it's possible to ask too many questions, I'd say yes, it's very possible. I reckon the Yi is there to help you when your way is REALLY blocked. Then you should ask it something. But many times I find that I think my way is blocked, but all I really need to do is just use my brain, think a bit more deeply, and hey presto, I find the solution. Look, no Yi! I think you tap into something quite powerful when you consult the Yi, and I don't believe you need to do this very often. The Yi is there to aid your brain, but not to replace it.

Jonathan.

 

[yly2pg1]

"The funny think is that yes, right now I'm extremely isolated.
I have my family to a degree but they don't "get it" 100%.
They worry about me and have a tendency to go the "safe" road- get a job....quick!!!!
I'm scared SH**LESS right now.
I have no capital, no advisors, no board, etc.
I have EVERYTHING that my "rational" mind needs to make me stop!! "

Probably, you need a partner who share what you have gone thru?
A partner who could put you thru with your rational mind at rest.
Yi could fill up the gap if you know the trick.

Just calm down and find your inner peace and slowly let Yi immerses in your situation.
Let Yi shares your emotions and have trust that Yi will take care for you while you take your break.
Forget your problem for a while. Just relax.

Few days down the raod, Yi will probably bring in a message.
A message may come in the form of a "uninvited thought" that pops up in the middle of your shower?
Or it could come thru a little girl playing in the street.
If you are open to the messages and trusting in them, each and every message will reveal itself as a connection to the answers of your worry, doubt and problem.
(de gifts of synchronocity?)

 

[grndultimte]

thank you for your kind and much needed words Yly2pg1.


grnd