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The general impression: something in potential, full of energy, but there is no way or no place for it to happen in reality. So as a prediction I might read it as 'great! brilliant! inspired! - only it won't materialise. Or not now, anyway.'
I think it's all one basic idea of 1 unchanging: the spirit or inspiration or energy that isn't embodied/ realised is no less real for that.
hilary;152686 I think it's all one basic idea of 1 unchanging: the spirit or inspiration or energy that isn't embodied/ realised is no less real for that.[/QUOTE said:If I could revert to the general idea of an unchanging hexagram for a moment.....
The more I've thought about the unchanging hexagram phenomenon, the more it occurs to me that any hex unchanging may be a form of pure energy, which is how these stories sound in practice -- unless that's distinct to Hexagram One unchanging. Somehow I think we will find this to be generalised though.
Searching for a common thread between other experiences of unchanging hexes puts me in mind of books that I’ve read on chaos theory and scientific thought that says there is no “chaos” in the Universe – only patterns that are so broad our minds can’t grasp them.
Does it seem that, whereas, the fence-posts of changing lines give us more clues on the social or practical implications of the situation equated with a relatively known background of ancient Chinese civilisation [and more tangible imagery to work with as well as shades and nuance of tone], the unchanging hexagram would appear to present us with, as Hilary says, a disembodied and pure energy form, a primary colour and a phenomenon the Yi masters didn’t really choose to define for posterity? Can the unchanging hexagram be, literally, a purer and more forceful essence of the hexagram? It seems difficult to believe that, as a primary condition of being, the unchanging hexagram would behave more randomly than the changing lines though. Perhaps just a broader brush and bolder stroke?
Surely there is nothing “random” about the unchanging hexes; anymore than there is about a grid organised into 64 hexagrams, six interior phenomena each. Trojan was saying that the fixed double-hexagram is a more direct voice. What is it that fails to change – when we draw the double-hexagram? The amount of fluctuation appears to decrease to nothing. Randomness should be less then – not more. In any case, doesn’t it seem we are faced with an energy that is more dense and focused and whose application leaves fewer choices [thus no changing lines] and requires more faith and acquiescence? Or is that just the mood I’m in lately?
Oh, just wait until we get to 11!
I think the 'pure energy'-ness of 1 unchanging has to do with it being pure yang - no spaces, no openings for it to come through, as it were. Except in LiSe's 1 unchanging... unless the 'staying entirely free' has a similar feel to it? (This is great, having a new example - it 59-s my ideas nicely!)
Trojan, I think when Arabella questioned whether an unchanging hexagram should be particularly 'random' she was picking up on what I said about the weird effects of unchangingness on a hexagram's original meaning. The idea being that the meaning 'shouldn't' be unpredictable, it 'ought to' be pure and direct essence-of-hexagram. At least, I think that's what was meant...?
Any more hexagram 1 examples, anyone?
Thanks Hilary, yes this is what I was chiming in on. A bit of talking out loud to myself -- SHOULDN'T it be this way then?? And terms like "double hex" or "phenomenon" is just me searching for synonyms or metaphors where there may not be any -- to keep from repeating the same words again and again. Don't take me literally please Trojan as i sort around for a way to describe what I'm muddling through. Interesting though, when you think of it, if the unchanging hexagram isn't the hex doubled -- why write it twice? Why not simply write an unchanging hexagram once if that's the only connotation? Again, just me thinking out loud!
And i'll repeat Hilary's call: Any more examples of Hex 1 Unchanging?
Trojan, I think when Arabella questioned whether an unchanging hexagram should be particularly 'random' she was picking up on what I said about the weird effects of unchangingness on a hexagram's original meaning. The idea being that the meaning 'shouldn't' be unpredictable, it 'ought to' be pure and direct essence-of-hexagram. At least, I think that's what was meant...?
Any more hexagram 1 examples, anyone?
...why is there no emoticon for someone lying in a darkened room rocking back and forth because she doesn't understand ....I mean I don't write it twice....does anyone write it twice.......who writes it twice ? You mean the online tool is that right ?
God that thing should be abolished as now people seem to think there are 'double hexagrams'
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I got hex. 1 unchanging when I asked Yi how I had done. There had been a confrontation with a very difficult person, who uses every power she has to overrule. Screaming, accusing, digging up old sores, anything whatever. I had stood my ground, without in any way reacting to those things. That was new, until that day I never managed to stay entirely free, not attack back, not answer to any accusation, only saying what I felt I should say. Strong, calm, in balance. I was amazed at myself.
So I asked Yi "what was THAT".
Hex. 1 unchanging. Nothing left which should be done, all perfect and creative.
That felt really like a huge pat on the back. Well done, great! Made me shine with pride.
Next week that will be exactly one year ago. Things improved a huge lot since that day.
Doesn't seem unique to this online tool -- but is the standard electronic format -- and isn't that the "wave of the future?" It seems that these programs generally show a mirror image as the resulting hexagram emphasizing that nothing has changed. Or are these programs just unable to leave a space blank?
I've only come across one site that did this, and I never used it again, I tend to defer to LiSe's site for online casting and it stays as one hex. Also the mobile apps I've used keep it as one as well.
will you do separate threads for each hex? or all in this one? I've had most of the hexes uc but I must say up until 8 not much at all, so I can't join in til later
(Trojan you're rocking my world this morning
Your posts are brilliant! )
will you do separate threads for each hex? or all in this one? I've had most of the hexes uc but I must say up until 8 not much at all, so I can't join in til later
thanks Dora...thats (. . ) as gratifying as someone telling me I'm right
When we get to 11, I will remove it here (if that is still possible) and put it there. Right now it was just an example for what unchanging could mean. This first thread about hexagrams is a bit a mix of hex.1 and "unchanging".Oh, just wait until we get to 11!
When we get to 11, I will remove it here (if that is still possible) and put it there. Right now it was just an example for what unchanging could mean. This first thread about hexagrams is a bit a mix of hex.1 and "unchanging".
Really LOVE this thread BTW! Arabella
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