Your Experiences with Unchanging Castings-Hexagram 27

[kash]

I've had it today when asking about whether I will receive payment from one of the companies I freelance for. It was meant to have been in my account already but they'd screwed up and forgot to pay me. I asked them to make an exception and run an instant payment through so I'd get the cash today, then, while waiting for their response, asked the I ching whether I would. Got 27 UC. The payment came an hour later.

 

[SHONNA_D]

At the beginning of 2017 year I asked if I will go on holidays to country X. The answer was 27 hex uc.
I wasn't sure that I will go on holidays because hexagram 27 shows an open mouth so hungry. I can confirm that I did and I don't regret it!

 

[SeeBeauty]

(This is my first ever post to the site, which I find to be an invaluable resource in my evolving relationship with the Ching. With much gratitude to you all, I may as well start contributing.)

I quit smoking on New Years Eve this last year, more due to sickness than to a proclaimed "New Years Resolution". It was very difficult and came with more emotional ups and downs than I would have ever guessed. A few weeks in I began to really "see the light" and eventually felt amazing in my new non-smoker state of being. I made it until August, when I allowed a visit from my brother (my favorite smoking companion) to derail my progress. After he went back home I have lately been emotionally struggling a bit. I asked the Ching: "What roll does my relapse into smoking tobacco have on my current 'funky' emotional state?"

Of course, there's my 27, unchanging.

Wings interpretation is so incredibly spot-on it just amazes me: "You are a product of everything you put into your body and mind...If you are satisfied with the state of your inquiry, then continue your input habits, for they are producing the current situation. If you are discontent you must seriously alter your appetites"

You can't get much clearer than that. "you are what you eat"

I guess I know what I need to do...

 

[Lavalamp]

Seems many people, myself included, have gotten this hex unchanging when asking about work.
In that context it's really a throw it back to you kind of hex I think.
What do you need? Inner self, outer self.
Contemplate the Jaws. What are you good at? What do you have to offer?
Not exactly earth shaking advice, but on point.

- LL

 

[CheersC]

Guys, what about questions about how will be the cooperation/relationship (not love) with a person (teacher)? Did anyone get it? Example: with a coworker, or with an instructor, to know if things will go ok between u and him...?I received it and still have to see what will happen.(*The latest time I had 27 hex was about a love question... And he wasnt the right person but i needed him, i was attracted)

 

[CheersC]

'till now it is showing me a person that talks SO MUCH (and also uses a filthy language) while teaching to you, and it seems like they want to be listened

 

[Fortuny1889]

I received 27 unchanging on a reading I made for my cat.

I had taken the cat from a shelter for unlucky cats. had been with me for two months. His was a very sad story: he had lived in a small cellar with other cats. The owner was a crazy old compulsive accumulator of animals.
The refuge volunteers told me that the cat was 8 years old. I had it with me for only two months and had started showing symptoms of discomfort. it lost a lot of hair and rather obvious patches of alopecia were beginning to appear.
The vet had investigated for skin fungi, but the result of the gest was negative. but the cat did not heal and was increasingly bald.

I asked Yi for a diagnosis:
27 unchanging.

I thought of a food-related cause. That same day we went back to the vet and he also said to try a monoproteic diet to detect probable allergies.
We followed the diet for 2 months, but there was no progress, so we went back to normal eating and the vet said that maybe it was stress for the change of house.

In fact, in just a few weeks, the cat no longer lost hair and was growing back in the bald areas.

But a few more months and the cat starts to hurt again: pus in the eyes, drooling in the mouth, little appetite and losing its liveliness.
I go back to the vet who tells me that the cat is suffering from toothache. you have to do it, but first you have to put on some weight.

I managed to make the cat fat enough for mouth surgery that was quite serious: so many extractions and cutting of the jaw bones. my heart broke: 27 was the mouth?

Maybe so. But I thought about feeding. the real problem was the mouth infection that also caused kidney problems.

happy ending: now my cat is fine and we are all happy!

 

[Trojina]

I'm sure @Liselle wouldn't want to miss this one as she is the cat Yi expert

 

[Fortuny1889]

I'm sure @Liselle wouldn't want to miss this one as she is the cat Yi expert

wow! I didn’t know that about Liselle!
now, my cat and I are really curious about his point of view!

 

[Trojina]

Liselle is a lady

 

[Liselle]

Liselle is a lady

Yes, she is...

as she is the cat Yi expert

...but she's definitely not that.

What a terribly sad story about your cat, Fortuny. But thank goodness he/she has you now to take care of him/her.

Why didn't the vet notice his teeth when you took him the first time, I wonder? It's not the reason you went, his fur was, but didn't the vet do a whole exam while you were there?

I wonder if that's the unchangingness of it. Not sure. Thank you for posting about it (and Trojina for @-ing me to come see).

 

[Fortuny1889]

Liselle is a lady

...her point of view

 

[Fortuny1889]

Yes, she is...

...but she's definitely not that.

What a terribly sad story about your cat, Fortuny. But thank goodness he/she has you now to take care of him/her.

Why didn't the vet notice his teeth when you took him the first time, I wonder? It's not the reason you went, his fur was, but didn't the vet do a whole exam while you were there?

I wonder if that's the unchangingness of it. Not sure. Thank you for posting about it (and Trojina for @-ing me to come see).

Hello Liselle!
It’s a pleasure to know you, a cat lady yi expert!

The vet told me about the dental problem on the first visit, but the illnes was under control (or not so strong) and the tomcat (he is a boy) was so tiny with the problem hair, that the medical care was concentrate on feed, cuddles and alopecia.

I have another cat, a girl cat rescued from the street. I’ve got another cast about her. This is sooo cooool!! This was on her emotion and mixed feelings about me...

Is there a specific tread for cats on Clarity?

Warm hugs,
F.

 

[Liselle]

Hello Liselle!
It’s a pleasure to know you, a cat lady yi expert!

I am not not NOT that. But it's a pleasure to meet other cat people here.

Is there a specific tread for cats on Clarity?

No, just post them normally, with the other threads. Hopefully they won't start hissing.

 

[themothership]

Yi seems to me to have many ways to say "well what do you think ?" and 27uc is one of them. The most concrete experience I have of it was on asking about what I needed to know about using support groups for something. I felt that time Yi took the question, returned it, replying "well what do you need it for ? What do you need from it ? Does it, will it, how will it feed you ? " I think I was being directed to consider clearly what my needs were and how and if such groups could nourish those requirements. I think I'd asked "what do I need to know about these support groups in general ?" .....and Yi said "well whaddya want ? ". At least it clarified my thought processes....my task being to consider my needs which I suppose should have been obvious..and yet wasn't quite till it was pointed out, plainly by 27uc. Sometimes I think unchanging casts do have this underlined quality, stark and simple, perhaps 'emphatic'.

Looking under the hexagram search 27 uc has come up for dentistry...of course, but I've not yet found any other clear examples of others experience with it.


Wing, who writes a paragraph for all the hexagrams in unchanging form says ;



I guess that saying something similar......"whaddya want ?" does that food feed you well ? can that, whatever it is that is the subject of your question, nourish you as you would wish it to ?


Anyone have quite a different experience with/sense of 27 uc ?

I asked what a certain trio were actually planning to do together, with music equipment that used to be used in my band (including my antique PA system).
Here are the thoughts that occurred to me as I contemplated 27UC as the answer:

People have to EAT. They are motivated more by their stomach than just about anything else in life. It is a primal, fundamental human need - and is the very first that a human requires at birth. Food.
Seeking out and obtaining food is what motivates just about any and every plan you make every single day. Breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks, a diet plan, shopping, stopping for a snack at the corner store, chocolate or sweets cravings, salty snacks cravings, you name it - food dominates.
What's more, people bond together to cooperate for food. It is the primary social connector, beginning with the bond a baby has with the mother, to the family eating at the table together, to the first date going out for a burger and fries.
Food isn't the only kind of hunger we have, but in seeking it, sometimes the other hungers we need get fulfilled - like company and not being alone. A human being who is all alone will still find something to feed, whether it be a plant or an animal - just in order to not be...alone.
Still, a human cannot live on the same diet as his goldfish eats - that ought to be obvious.

What's more, you might see picture of an amazing curry- and it looks a lot better than the ramen noodles you eat. But in order to have that curry, you are going to have to do what it takes to obtain the ingredients, learn how to prepare it properly - before you can enjoy the taste you were salivating from staring at someone else's social media post of their dinner.
When you are not willing to go to the trouble of learning to cook that food for yourself, to give it to yourself, you can sit and stare and drool at that picture of someone else's dinner all day - all your stomach will do is rumble harder.

If you have a HUNGER for something in life, you have to do the work it takes to get that food.
And it takes WORK.
Doing the work to make that curry doesn't mean you will succeed. A few years ago, I saw an attempt at curry presented with great pride by one member that group I was querying about. It looked like the cook had predigested it and regurgitated it back into the pan, then served that to the guests. Literally that bad. The guests I'm sure were very polite, but never returned for a dinner party again. Playing music is a lot like that too. You might work very hard to learn some songs and get a venue set up where people come to listen to your performance - and not succeed in pleasing their ears and emotions with the sounds you've produced.

After school, my mom never had chips and cookies and other snacks around for us to munch on when I was growing up. We went down to the dock, and pulled up the crab crate. Then we put the crabs in a pot and steamed them with some seasoning. It wasn't too difficult to do. But did involve at least SOME effort. And then we had to do even more work just to get at the meat. Crabs shells are hard.
We were growing kids, so we'd have just enough after school snack to be starving by dinner time.
Nothing was served up on a silver platter. If we were hungry, we had to do the work.

Now as just about any professional musician can testify, music is hard work - and you don't get a lot of money or food for doing it. You're more likely to get a round of booze - and things that aren't good for you. The "starving musician" rumor is all true. Yet, there is something about music that fills a NEED in people, that makes all the hard work worth it.
Still in the context of my question - there are people who hunger for attention, to be cool, some sort of fame or praise. In which case you have to look not only at how they feed themselves, but how they go about feeding others.

In most cases, musicians have got to have other work in order to feed themselves, and that leaves very little time for pursuing that big dish of praise and adoration from devoted fans that they dream about as they drool over the images of successful famous music artists. Most of those artists didn't have a proper diet, and drank and drugged themselves to death, actually.

This particular group does not consist of people who are playing music professionally, working to support their main hunger that drives them toward cooking up dishes of sounds. They are more likely to be eating something other people cooked and listening to music other people wrote and made, than earning their bread and butter making music. If they hope to make a great creation that all the world consumes and proclaims to be hungry for more, more, more - Hex27 UC says that's not very likely to happen.
In fact, they will be too busy working their 10 hour days at their jobs, and worrying about their food problems to get anywhere with that music equipment. They'll just look at it, and hunger to be receiving the life of ease they imagine celebrity would bring them.

So in the end? Trojina's "What do you think?" interpretation rings pretty true to me! XD

Also reminds me of a fun childhood rhyme:
"Beans, beans, good for your heart
The more you eat 'em
The more you fart
The more you fart
The smarter you feel
So eat your beans at every meal."

 

[Lavalamp]

I asked what a certain trio were actually planning to do together, with music equipment that used to be used in my band (including my antique PA system).
Here are the thoughts that occurred to me as I contemplated 27UC as the answer:
- People have to EAT.

Well it is written, "Man does not live by bread alone..." And "If music is the food of love, play on!"
And actually, I have had 20 something's feeding two weeks in row now at an open mic I've been playing my original tunes at.
Anyway, I have come to think of 27 as Maslow's Heirachy Of Needs.
Whatever your need at the moment is, you don't want it to screw up everything else!
It is very important to find a balance, as the Yi teaches, the "Middle Way."



- LL

"Oh the Cape cod girls they have no combs. Heave away, heave away,
They comb their hair with cod fish bones, Bound away for Australia..."

 

[Liselle]

Asked in a state of exasperation before the election last November: "Why don't the Republicans want us to have health care?"

(Of course it's not like that, I know the Republicans don't sit around saying, "No health care! No! Off with your heads!" I was piqued at the time...)

27uc. Which affirmed it's not that they don't like health care, they just don't like the system by which it's provided.

 

[steve]

I have just cast the answer today about asking about finances, i have just paid out a huge amount of money and need a little more. What do I need to know my finances, I am thinking that after reading these experiences, this is about survival.

Its like the sergeant pushing you out of the plane , "jump lad" or being told sink or swim by your swimming teacher when you are 6. ( kids generally learn to swim early in Australia, and they always choose 5am in the winter for your assessment) Thats for another thread.

Its kind of a tough answer really, in ancient times I guess food would have been a massive thing, literal survival. Its not like you could just get your cell phone out and order a Big Mac. I am speaking about the hexagram from a physical perspective. It can be and would often be a spiritual answer, like maybe take care of yourself, do what makes you happy, feed your soul. However, to me that still comes under the catergory of survival.

You would probably, never get this answer for a lazy day on the couch, i tend to get 24's for that sought of thing.

Thinking about Trojina's example, to me it was like you made your bed or chose to come here in this weather, now "survive".

On the James Dekorne site
Other titles: The Corners of the Mouth, Providing Nourishment, The Symbol of the Cheek and of Nourishment, Jaws, Lower Jaw, Nurturing, Swallowing, Sagacious Counsel, Nourishing, To Feed, "Can mean money, usually as the result of effort." -- D.F. Hook

Swallowing resonates with me, swallowing a bitter pill, but it needs to be done.

I am asking directly about finance, there is no way I can see any extra money without a huge effort. I am going to have to look high and low. Things are tight with some people with interest rates, inflation and everything else.

If I were to name the hexagram I would name it surviving.