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I've had 37 uc in situations where the situation is already resolved, it seems. For instance I got 37uc in august after asking yi about some job applications which it seemed negative or ambivalent about. I asked, what's wrong with me just sending my cv? No harm, right? 37uc. I wasn't sure how to interpret. The next day I got an unexpected job offer from another place, my 'perfect' job (well, almost!!!!!). Similarly my son couldn't find a job in his gap year, and I asked what I could do to help him. 37uc. I took this to mean that I should help him, since I'm his family. I then wailed 'I don't know how to help him!' Received 37.3>42. Somehow I then immediately found myself on a website starting a job application on my sons behalf, which he then completed with my help. Anyway, he got the job!! So, I guess the idea of everything being in its proper place makes sense in these examples.
 
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My last experience with hexagram 37 and unchanging hexagrams.

My question was: Will I meet Y tomorrow? I was thinking all the day the sentence:
The perseverance of the woman furthers and I was thinking that I had to wait and be patient.
What happened is that I went to Y's house and I met not only him but also members of his family and we were like a family too.

So the answer was yes and the hint was that I felt like part of his family.
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I had an interesting experience recently with hexagram 37 unchanging. I had some young spinach and lettuce plants in the garden and had covered them with bird netting. As they were getting older I asked Yi whether it was time to take off the netting, and got 37uc. I immediately thought of the image of the pig under the roof and a family of plants being safe under cover, so I left it on. A couple of weeks later I removed the netting and next morning I discovered a couple of my plants had been completely shredded by the birds. Still too soon!
 

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What is mafia?
A family, an organization, a structure, a family-based organization, each his own role.
Very nice! :zen:
 

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Recently, some old emotional wounds around growing up in totally dysfunctional family constellations have torn open for me. Feels like I am releasing lots of pain, especially from my second chakra. I'm meeting new people I really feel at home with. But the emotional warmth also triggers fear. So, after a night without sleep and a sensation like wildfire in my pelvis, I asked the Yi:

What do I need to feel at home in my body again?

Answer: 37 UC

What more to say? It felt reassuring.
 

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I would add that a feeling of being with friends you feel safe to be yourself around is the essence of what "Family" should feel like.
 

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I have found the answer to mean both literal and related to getting hold of emotions. Recieving for example, when I needed to work literally with my team to its best ability. In addition, I have received the answer when my thoughts have been flying here there and everywhere.

A family environment is a busy place where everyone mostly is doing there own thing or tasks. Maybe at dinner times people pull together for a common goal, I have actually received the answer when it has been both literally and things I should be working on within myself emotionally.

For example, if you have a lot to achieve, then getting emotional about the ups and downs is not going to help I suppose.

James DeKorne in this instance talks about pulling the ego and the higher self together. Or not letting one rule the other, I recently, watched a video where a Rabbi I follow on YouTube talks about how there is a constant battle between these two souls earthly and heavenly as he puts it. Pulling and constantly tugging at each other. The metaphor he uses is like the way a flame is connected to a candle. The flame reaching up constantly while the candle being the body keep the higher soul grounded.

Also, the American Indian story of the two wolves. I also listened to a Guru on YouTube talking about how negative thoughts are actually real poison in your body.

An old friend from school who has always been quietly spoken, never really had a drug problem maybe smoked too much weed for a while. The point is he has always been quietly spoken however, people know at the same time he is not a push over. He is the same as me on many levels, its just he is more quiet in general. He is not perfect by any means, however emotional is not something people would call him I do not believe. When he has a birthday you should see the amount of people that wish him well on social media . People respect or like the modest and people who are not overbearing naturally or in general.

When a family or team works together it can be a very powerful thing and so can controlling your emotions consistently.

I know all these things, but when it comes to the test thats when it gets hard.
I am guessing you need tools and triggers if you battle with this stuff.
Also in a literal sense, a family will use tools as well to make things work.
Synchronicity is the key for me in the answer.

PS Here is the two wolves story
 
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I have found the answer to mean both literal and related to getting hold of emotions. Recieving for example, when I needed to work literally with my team to its best ability. In addition, I have received the answer when my thoughts have been flying here there and everywhere.

A family environment is a busy place where everyone mostly is doing there own thing or tasks. Maybe at dinner times people pull together for a common goal, I have actually received the answer when it has been both literally and things I should be working on within myself emotionally.

For example, if you have a lot to achieve, then getting emotional about the ups and downs is not going to help I suppose.

James DeKorne in this instance talks about pulling the ego and the higher self together. Or not letting one rule the other, I recently, watched a video where a Rabbi I follow on YouTube talks about how there is a constant battle between these two souls earthly and heavenly as he puts it. Pulling and constantly tugging at each other. The metaphor he uses is like the way a flame is connected to a candle. The flame reaching up constantly while the candle being the body keep the higher soul grounded.

Also, the American Indian story of the two wolves. I also listened to a Guru on YouTube talking about how negative thoughts are actually real poison in your body.

An old friend from school who has always been quietly spoken, never really had a drug problem maybe smoked too much weed for a while. The point is he has always been quietly spoken however, people know at the same time he is not a push over. He is the same as me on many levels, its just he is more quiet in general. He is not perfect by any means, however emotional is not something people would call him I do not believe. When he has a birthday you should see the amount of people that wish him well on social media . People respect or like the modest and people who are not overbearing naturally or in general.

When a family or team works together it can be a very powerful thing and so can controlling your emotions consistently.

I know all these things, but when it comes to the test thats when it gets hard.
I am guessing you need tools and triggers if you battle with this stuff.
Also in a literal sense, a family will use tools as well to make things work.
Synchronicity is the key for me in the answer.

PS Here is the two wolves story
Just as an aside, I used this story with a class of teenagers and some of them thought the wolf story was subliminally racist. That made me wonder if the story was ‘genuine’, as its positioning of binary opposites suddenly struck me as being suspect. In short, I found a series of posts that suggested the story originated with Billy Graham the Christian evangelist, and not the Cherokee nation. In any case there’s another version of the story (which may or may not be American Indian) in which the moral is to feed not one, but both wolves. Maybe that ties to family, too? Acceptance of the prodigal.
 

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Just as an aside, I used this story with a class of teenagers and some of them thought the wolf story was subliminally racist.
That's absurd. The story is about thoughts/feelings/urges not people. The story is about which to feed. We have a choice all the time. I can dwell on unhappy things or not. I can nourish either what is destructive in me or not. The day people aren't allowed to tell a story about feeding positive or negative emotions because they are racist is the day I may as well leave the planet for good. The teenagers missed the point and aimed to plaster their given ideology all over it misunderstanding it completely. Someone can have both highly destructive and highly constructive motivations. Race doesn't come into it all.

That made me wonder if the story was ‘genuine’, as its positioning of binary opposites suddenly struck me as being suspect.
Suspect ? What do you think Yi is based on if not binary opposites? Yin lines and yang lines. Are binary opposites not allowed any more. I think it's fine for Steve to post that story and there's nothing racist about it it's just saying clearly that you have a choice, (to some extent anyway I'm not saying it's 100% applicable) over which emotions and urges you encourage to grow within yourself
In any case there’s another version of the story (which may or may not be American Indian) in which the moral is to feed not one, but both wolves. Maybe that ties to family, too? Acceptance of the prodigal.
But that completely misses the point. The story is about thoughts, emotions, motivations not people. The story has nothing to do with accepting the prodigal, there is no prodigal, it's about thoughts/emotions and motivations in your own head.
 
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I have found the answer to mean both literal and related to getting hold of emotions. Recieving for example, when I needed to work literally with my team to its best ability. In addition, I have received the answer when my thoughts have been flying here there and everywhere.

A family environment is a busy place where everyone mostly is doing there own thing or tasks. Maybe at dinner times people pull together for a common goal, I have actually received the answer when it has been both literally and things I should be working on within myself emotionally.

For example, if you have a lot to achieve, then getting emotional about the ups and downs is not going to help I suppose.

James DeKorne in this instance talks about pulling the ego and the higher self together. Or not letting one rule the other, I recently, watched a video where a Rabbi I follow on YouTube talks about how there is a constant battle between these two souls earthly and heavenly as he puts it. Pulling and constantly tugging at each other. The metaphor he uses is like the way a flame is connected to a candle. The flame reaching up constantly while the candle being the body keep the higher soul grounded.

Also, the American Indian story of the two wolves. I also listened to a Guru on YouTube talking about how negative thoughts are actually real poison in your body.

An old friend from school who has always been quietly spoken, never really had a drug problem maybe smoked too much weed for a while. The point is he has always been quietly spoken however, people know at the same time he is not a push over. He is the same as me on many levels, its just he is more quiet in general. He is not perfect by any means, however emotional is not something people would call him I do not believe. When he has a birthday you should see the amount of people that wish him well on social media . People respect or like the modest and people who are not overbearing naturally or in general.

When a family or team works together it can be a very powerful thing and so can controlling your emotions consistently.

I know all these things, but when it comes to the test thats when it gets hard.
I am guessing you need tools and triggers if you battle with this stuff.
Also in a literal sense, a family will use tools as well to make things work.
Synchronicity is the key for me in the answer.

PS Here is the two wolves story
Just as an aside, I used this story with a class of teenagers and some of them thought the wolf story was subliminally racist. That made me wonder if the story was ‘genuine’, as its positioning of binary opposites suddenly struck me as being suspect. In short, I found a series of posts that suggested the story originated with Billy Graham the Christian evangelist, and not the Cherokee nation. In any case there’s another version of the story (which may or may not be American Indian) in which the moral is to feed not one, but both wolves. Maybe that ties to family, too? Acceptance of the profigal
That's absurd. The story is about thoughts/feelings/urges not people. The story is about which to feed. We have a choice all the time. I can dwell on unhappy things or not. I can nourish either what is destructive in me or not. The day people aren't allowed to tell a story about feeding positive or negative emotions because they are racist is the day I may as well leave the planet for good. The teenagers missed the point and aimed to plaster their given ideology all over it misunderstanding it completely. Someone can have both highly destructive and highly constructive motivations. Race doesn't come into it all.


Suspect ? What do you think Yi is based on if not binary opposites? Yin lines and yang lines. Are binary opposites not allowed any more. I think it's fine for Steve to post that story and there's nothing racist about it it's just saying clearly that you have a choice, (to some extent anyway I'm not saying it's 100% applicable) over which emotions and urges you encourage to grow within yourself

But that completely misses the point. The story is about thoughts, emotions, motivations not people. The story has nothing to do with accepting the prodigal, there is no prodigal, it's about thoughts/emotions and motivations in your own head.
That's absurd. The story is about thoughts/feelings/urges not people. The story is about which to feed. We have a choice all the time. I can dwell on unhappy things or not. I can nourish either what is destructive in me or not. The day people aren't allowed to tell a story about feeding positive or negative emotions because they are racist is the day I may as well leave the planet for good. The teenagers missed the point and aimed to plaster their given ideology all over it misunderstanding it completely. Someone can have both highly destructive and highly constructive motivations. Race doesn't come into it all.


Suspect ? What do you think Yi is based on if not binary opposites? Yin lines and yang lines. Are binary opposites not allowed any more. I think it's fine for Steve to post that story and there's nothing racist about it it's just saying clearly that you have a choice, (to some extent anyway I'm not saying it's 100% applicable) over which emotions and urges you encourage to grow within yourself

But that completely misses the point. The story is about thoughts, emotions, motivations not people. The story has nothing to do with accepting the prodigal, there is no prodigal, it's about thoughts/emotions and motivations in your own head.
Trojina, I’m sorry you consider my comment ‘absurd’, it wasn’t meant in that way at all. I would have made more sense perhaps if I’d added the relevant source material, and it was very tangential. It wasn’t meant to be an attack on Steve. I can’t find the additional story now - and am too busy to look - it’s an interesting version - and I have absolutely no idea why you’ve reacted so strongly. I’m sorry you consider my intelligent and incisive 12-year old pupils in a philosophy lesson ‘absurd’ also. At the end of that philosophy lesson they reflected - without attacking each other or calling each other ‘absurd’ - that the lesson of the story was about acceptance of the ‘dark brother’ rather than rejecting him. That was their take. Absurd? No I don’t think so. We weren’t discussing it in the context of the I Ching which IS binary at base but moves fluidly between those rather than fixing them as permanent states. Apologies if my meandering thoughts were unhelpful to the present discussion.
 

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I wasn't calling you or them absurd but I was calling the idea that the two wolves story is racist absurd. I did write 'that's absurd' which it is. I know you weren't attacking Steve.
 

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that the lesson of the story was about acceptance of the ‘dark brother’ rather than rejecting him. That was their take. Absurd? No I don’t think so. We weren’t discussing it in the context of the I Ching which IS binary at base but
Then they came to an incorrect conclusion as I stated in my post earlier. The story isn't about a 'dark brother' at all did you think it was ? The two wolves represent our destructive urges and our constructive urges. It has nothing to do with accepting dark brothers as other people, it's sides within our own selves. So I think you may have misled them about the lesson of the story. It's as if you think the story is about 2 actual wolves/people rather than different sides of a person's own nature. It's a metaphor about our inner life it's not about one good person and one bad person.
 

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Maybe the kids didnt quite get it at first, the story of the two wolves but they know deep down, I did not really undertand the story at first myself, its like what am i being told here? But later on what the grandfather means sinks in. Maybe you are right both wolves should be fed but I would be careful on that,

Its a deep discussion for early teenagers, my son turned 13 in April, after reading these replies I asked him to come and sit and listen, he would not even listen at first. I bribed him said if you do not listen to my story you can't use my computer. He listened to the story and thought the answer is the good wolf, I said you are missing the point. In general, he thought it was good story and seemed to understand about 30 minutes later.

I think his two wolves for him are when he finishes basketball and is allowed to walk home by himself, Should i come home straight away so my mum does not stress out or maybe I could go to my friends house and mess around on the playstation and stress everyone out and come home at 9pm.

I think you were pretty brave even getting that deep with a group of teenagers. At least you got a discussion going with them, your the teacher right.

Trojina is correct in the fact that the story of the two wolves is a metaphor or even a spiritual story its designed to help people. I think the mediators are there to help us stay on subject.

Lastly, another metaphor could be the old cartoons where the literal angel is on one shoulder and literal devil is on the other. Both of them trying to influence porky pig or something.

In general, to me anyway that hexagram 37 can be advice on pulling yourself together emotionally or literally it could be a close group of people working at a common goal aka family.

Be well
 

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I just got 37 uc for asking how to get my power back: Inside.
This loving yi!
 

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