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Then the timing in the judgement in the Wilhelm could also be written like:
when october comes, there will be misfortune.
The interpretation speaks of a certain succes when doing spring things in spring times. Like falling in love is for spring, not for winter and autumn; irrigating and growing is for spring, harvesting for autumn.
Ch.Ecclesiastes 4.11
También si dos durmieren juntos, se calentarán; mas ¿cómo se calentará uno solo?
Old Reyna-Valera
Again, if two lie together, then they have heat: but how can one be warm alone?
Old King James
In the Wilhelm the implicit year-cycle interpretation is dominant, it gives the feeling that a lin situation is not possible in the eight month, because the interpretation ties itself up to this cycle alone.
If we leave that tying up to one kind cycle alone, the interpretation states that you can do things according to the cycle you have tuned in, now stick to the groove. Executing a plan goes step by step. Later, when a plan falls together, it should be on the right place in the right time, so don't spoil tings by wrong timing.
Words-adapted from The Bible, book of Ecclesiastes
Music-Pete Seeger
To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
And a time to every purpose, under Heaven
A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep
To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
And a time to every purpose, under Heaven
A time to build up,a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together
To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
And a time to every purpose, under Heaven
A time of love, a time of hate
A time of war, a time of peace
A time you may embrace, a time to refrain from embracing
To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
And a time to every purpose, under Heaven
A time to gain, a time to lose
A time to rend, a time to sew
A time for love, a time for hate
A time for peace, I swear it's not too late
:bows:
Hi, Bert:
If I understand you well, chinese october, yet autumn, is not a so good season as springtime for doing things like:
• seizing country flowers,
• hunting butterflies or dragonflies,
• looking japanese spring pictures,
• getting a girlfriend or a boyfriend,
• requesting babies from the stork,
• ... ?
Although, of course, never is too late for trying it.
Ancient chinese young peasants used to marry in autumn. Some people see marriage as a misfortune. Maybe that's why H.19 sentence ends with misfortune?
The advice can be: don't let go opportunities, don't wait till the next season for they can no return.
All the best,
Charly
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Enjoying springtime:
Ch.
hi Bert, good to see you again here!
time and again I have come across threads in the forums here that ask about this 8th month part and try out various time schemes to explain it, but to my limited experience, it has been more about what you mention in the end of your post - about the specific cycle of things (or tings ) that we have in mind each time. For example, I had 19 when wondering whether it'd be a good idea to text to someone while they were online - obviously if they logged off that would be the 8th month in that case . .
Sailing for me also has given me many '8th month' ideas, cause there you need to take advantage of any weather openings that appear and your whole program becomes dependent to that element alone, with everything else coming second - especially when secluded in an island by gales - and then it also depends on the kind of winds blowing (eg northern winds start strong and gradually mellow, while southern winds start weak and as days go by keep on getting stronger and stronger - or at least that's what happens in the Aegean). Or, there are spots where weather anomalies emerge that come with warning signs only those who know of the place can recognize
Which brings another element that I feel is very strong in 19, ie that of tutelage (mother/daughter, Earth/Lake). Iow, I feel in making use of 19's time is not only needed to get moving, but to have deep knowledge of the cycle in which we want to move, in order to guide events accordingly - and if we don't know of it, then have someone/thing to guide us forward . . I think sometimes plunging ahead with no awareness of the cycle can even cause the 8th month to come up much sooner!
so these are some thoughts o'mine over this .. btw I always thought of this song as a 24 one - funny how the things may get different meanings depending? Sometimes I feel like the world is like one huge kaleidoscope made of multiple points of view (and I'm not even on drugs, lol)
Dear Charly,
anything goes when the timing is ok? that might very well be so, but you need to be very skillfull/talented/trained to tune in on the right moment and know about resonance and rhythms and therfore you need teachings and teachers.
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[Bert aka Jilt]
Which brings another element that I feel is very strong in 19, ie that of tutelage (mother/daughter, Earth/Lake). Iow, I feel in making use of 19's time is not only needed to get moving, but to have deep knowledge of the cycle in which we want to move, in order to guide events accordingly - and if we don't know of it, then have someone/thing to guide us forward . . I think sometimes plunging ahead with no awareness of the cycle can even cause the 8th month to come up much sooner!
Dora aka Rodaki
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