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    Default Experience with unchanging hex: 49UC

    I am new to iching, but wanted to share a recent experience with 49UC whihc I found fascinating because it works on so many levels. Regarding a relationship that has reached a turning point, I asked: what now? And got 49UC - Revolution

    1- this is someone I met during a political revolution, its what brought us together. There are rumblings of a sequel to the Revolution, and it could affect the future of our relationship. 49UC as Ongoing political Revolution - how literal is that as background?

    2- this man's life is undergoing a revolution. A man with traditional family values, dealing with the aftermath of a divorce his did not choose. His life, his beliefs etc... are shaken to their very foundations, he is still processing all that, and it is affecting our relationship. 49UC as someone's life undergoing a radical change.

    3- our relationship is at a turning point. The old way of relating is no longer possible. So there I was agonizing about whether this would be the end or moving things forward It turns out its neither. its about letting go of a shared romanticised view of the relationship, and facing reality. Working with what we've got. Its neither good, nor bad, but it is radically dfferent! So 49UC as radical change in perspective.

    4- how I deal with this is a turning point in my personal development,its letting go of a pattern of how I manage relationships. 49UC as a deep inner shift of awareness.

    The jury is still out, this could yet bring up more interpretations of 49UC!
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    I've found with 49 uc that the thing in question looks likes it's disapeared, gone...end of story and I always think "huh what revolution, c'est finis !" Er then the thing in question reappears in my life in quite a new changed form.


    For example I had quite a fairly distanced kind of friendship with someone I met on a course. It was okay but slightly uneasy. It disapeared from view. When it reappeared it had somehow transformed into a very fun filled friendship

    I didn't get to see what happened in between, what happened in the interim ....but something did, I don't know what.

    So yeah on this and other occasions 49 uc has looked like something totally vanished whereas infact it was reinventing itself......with no apparent effort from anyone. Seems like a natural seasonal change. Who knows why one day it's winter and the next day it's spring.


    I know its a too often used cliche..... but the mysterious phase between the caterpillar and the butterfly comes to mind....what's it called the pupa stage ?

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    Thank you Trojan for that insight. Interesting. In my example, with so much revolution happening simultaneously on so many levels, it would be a waste of time to try to predict or control an outcome. Its a different kind of black box - i can see a lot is happening, but there is too much uncertainty to see where ts going. Perhaps that is another learning from 49UC - Dont try to predict or control the outcome? I like the idea of letting the situation reinvent itself.

    Actually, that fits well with the advice in 49.6, its interpretation by LiSe and her reference to Harmen:

    "Baobian is a transformation which takes place in one's nature, it cannot be controlled, it has to take it's natural course. Gemian is a change only in the face, the outside expression which can be controlled by ones will and intentions. Follow nature is good, follow the will is not good. Therefore 征凶.居貞吉. A (planned, will-driven) journey would not do any good"

    Basically, we must do what we can, and leave the rest to nature, "We must be satisfied with the attainable. If we should go too far and try to achieve too much, it would lead to unrest and misfortune"
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    while the phrase " growth is always a loss" may be not always true in the context of 49 seems it bodes well , imo. Shedding deadwood was the bottom line of a situation I was facing. Was not very thrilled however it was one of those things that your really have no choice or the other options are not very wise.

    I knew all this, i new I had to proceed yet a part of me wishing not to put myself it that procedure , so I asked and in the back of my mind I was looking for a way to avoid it I got 49 unchanging... I could almost see that emoticon between the lines, lol . The words of a person, a specialist on those situations, echoed in my mind : "the time has come"....

    49 feels more gentle than 23. maybe because the time is ripe for such changes and the accompanied losses seems more natural in a way.

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    I've seen 49 unchanging refer to adolescent rebellion - I got the impression (admittedly, from the parent!) that the teenager was doing nothing but rebel/ revolt against the old regime. 49 unchanging would raise the question: so you're overthrowing the old ways, but what do you intend to put in their place?

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    yasmin

    I love how you found four reasonable applications, using your own words; and all without a single change line.

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    Have respect for earth, using heaven's time.

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    Thanks Meng- not very academic, I'm afraid

    That said, if I had to relate my experience of political revolution to a line, sadly, t would be 49.3: leaderless, with no consensus on desired outcome, and headed straight for misfortune - More revolution or a different kind of dictatorship. Unless somehow order miraculously emerges out of the chaos... So I find it interesting that the judgement and text assumes its within one's control to initiate and direct the course of revolution. I suppose it is for some... For us in the Middle East, its more like navigating a ship in a tsunami without GPS!

    By the way, Hilary's experience with adolescent rebellion seems to relate to line 3 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yasmin View Post
    Thanks Meng- not very academic, I'm afraid
    Whose, yours or mine? lol ...certainly mine are only by luck academic.

    49.3
    its within one's control to initiate and direct the course of revolution
    But, which revolving is Yi referring to? It is within one's control to initiate and direct the course of ones own revolution. And that is likely collectively shared; so you are still part of it, no matter which side of it you choose. From one side you can't see the entire picture, hear the entire mix.

    So, your answer isn't going to be according to any assumptions you make about right or wrong, so much as determining a line of little resistance, to be in accord with the time. It may take three tries to be heard. Molting doesn't usually happen all at once, it takes discomfort and timing, and for some, a nice big tree to rub on.

    Who needs to hear here, line 3? So, whose revolution is Yi referring to, do you think?
    "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a highly functioning sociopath. Do your research." - Sherlock Holmes

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    Meng, I meant my comments are not very academic

    If I understand correctly, you are saying look for the learning in this situation, for example, question who needs to speak / hear 3 times? Etc... I will ponder that, and post later. Plenty of opportunity, it applies on so many levels, I keep drawing 49s, its the underlying fabric of my life

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