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CH'IEN, heavenly strength, in the lower trigram firmly establishes the path of goodness.. Great Movement , CHEN, above, carries this out.. When you receive this hexagram without change, you must devote yourself to establishing harmony between your Self and traditional ideals. Adhering to these ideals will center you, regardless of your opinions of conventional values. This is absolutely necessary in order to give your Great Power the correct thrust - the thrust out of and beyond what may be a stifling situation.
'Thunder dwells above heaven: Great Vigour
A noble one treads no path that is without ritual'.
The action of thunder rests on the underlying principles of heaven. The noble one, acting with Great Vigour, will not be improvising and adapting as he goes along :such great energy needs better guidance if it is to avoid injury. He follows ritual - that is, he acts in ways that observe the principles of creation, and follows their patterns. It is not so much a matter of 'respecting the rules' for their own sake, as of respecting what is known to work, because it is in harmony with the nature of things.
The action of thunder rests on the underlying principles of heaven. The noble one, acting with Great Vigour, will not be improvising and adapting as he goes along :such great energy needs better guidance if it is to avoid injury. He follows ritual - that is, he acts in ways that observe the principles of creation, and follows their patterns. It is not so much a matter of 'respecting the rules' for their own sake, as of respecting what is known to work, because it is in harmony with the nature of things.
I associated then 34 with the start of a grand prix car race, just before its beginning when you can hear the loud sound of engines revved by the drivers.
I got 34 for something similar. a moment felt like accelerate and brake a car at the same time. On the outside you see a idle car yet inside the engine works in its full power
Do you ever remember casting 34uc yourself ?
Does anyone here ever think/feel/consider that the law or correct convention or ritual could afford to be expanded, that they're too tight, strict or rigid, rather than your power necessarily should shrink to accommodate those platitudes of convention?
So I presented this in an objective manner to the Yi, asking for an objective and pragmatic reply, which I think is wonderfully thoughtful and worthy of contemplation. 20. 3,6 - 39.
and had to power through the laws of convention, ignoring ritual, defying authorities.
My question and examples were themselves examples of circumstances. That they did not do an IC reading and received 34uc is irrelevant. That would suggest the meaning of 34 is never relevant unless one did an IC reading, which is pretty ridiculous.
As I understood trojan, she was saying not so much that it wasn't true for Martin Luther because he didn't cast a reading, but because it isn't always true, period. That's why I'm confused by your examples, as well. There are 64 hexagrams and a zillion changing lines. Sometimes the yi shows you the idea "hold up, stop, pressing on doggedly will do no good." (39uc, for example). Sometime yi shows you the idea "it's GREEN LIGHTS ALL THE WAY BABY" (35.3, for example, or 42.2). I guess I don't get why you're saying that 34's caution that "this is a time to use great power in a careful, respectful way" means that there is never any OTHER way to use great power. There are lots of other ways, as shown in other hexagrams and other lines.
I'm sure the examples I used also contemplated, is this really what I should do, is it wise? Is it worth the risk?
Trojina : One could certainly see the Great Power of 34 in his famous speech or hex 1 or hex 49 or 31...
I don't think 34 is always an instruction to "power down" or to obey every ritual. If it was, we'd still be living in the Dark Ages.
andrea
I'd been hacking and rasping with a nasty cold for over a week. I'd missed two of my usual yoga classes. As I was starting to feel a little better, I asked whether I should go to a class that evening, and got 34 unchanging. I took it as yes, of course. (And I'm glad I went.)
When the planet is changing direction from direct to retrograde or from retrograde to direct it is said to be "stationary" - that is, it appears to be standing still.
In astrological terms a planet that is stationary is considered to be powerful - again fitting in with the meaning of 34.
I once got 34 when I asked the I Ching what was the significance of a planet in an astrological chart being "stationary".
Also it is helpful to compare the trigrams of both hexagrams.
34 is thunder over heaven
52 is mountain over mountain
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