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    Default Jiao Shi Yi Lin (Forest of Changes) Translation Available

    I have published my translation of the Han Dynasty expansion of the Yi Jing called the Forest of Changes (Jiao Shi Yi Lin) on CreateSpace:

    https://www.createspace.com/5175226

    It's a large format book, 8.5 by 11 inches and 518 pages, so if you don't find it useful for divination you can use it to hold open doors, fight off attackers, etc.

    The price is 38.88. I wanted to make it affordable. We all have enough overpriced books on our shelves.

    It will be available on Amazon, including the European sites, within the next few days.

    Thanks for all here who have helped me in the work!

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    Congratulations.
    Hexagrams are merely a navigation chart; you still are the one dealing with the waves, the cliffs, and the winds. The Map is never more important than the real Sea!. Consulting the Yijing can help you to make more informed choices but it should never replace your own responsability and judgment while becoming the Commander of your own life.

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    Hi, Chris:

    Congratulations!!!
    An be with luck!


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    Quote Originally Posted by charly View Post
    Hi, Chris:

    Congratulations!!!
    An be with luck!


    Charly
    Nice picture of me, by the way, grabbing all the cash and running.

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    Great, your book is now on Amazon

    While I get my copy, could you share the table of contents? I'm wondering if you discusses how to use it in practice.
    Hexagrams are merely a navigation chart; you still are the one dealing with the waves, the cliffs, and the winds. The Map is never more important than the real Sea!. Consulting the Yijing can help you to make more informed choices but it should never replace your own responsability and judgment while becoming the Commander of your own life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixth Relative View Post
    Great, your book is now on Amazon

    While I get my copy, could you share the table of contents? I'm wondering if you discusses how to use it in practice.
    Thank you for your interest in the Forest. Below is the TOC of the introductory material. The remainder of the book is the 64 chapters, each with 64 verses.

    As to technique, I use the Plum Blossom hexagram (there's a Chinese language one here: http://www.zhycw.com/pp/meihua.aspx (pick the year, date and time defaults to current, second button on the bottom to get a hexagram for the hour). Use that in combination with an Yi Jing reading by whatever method you choose to get two hexagrams (I usually get mine from the Oracle of the Singularity at Svarga in Second Life). I then look at both combinations of hexagrams in the Forest. So if I got 48 and 23 I look at 23 - 48 and 48 - 23. This is because the Forest is a bit broken. It was heavily damaged at some point and only about 1500 of the 4096 verses survived. An editor duplicated verses to fill back in. But they used too many negative verses, so the text is off balance. If you look at the divining tags for the Yi Jing, for instance, things like good fortune, no blame, nothing benefits, you will find that the Yi has a very slight positive balance. There are a few more positive readings than negative. So with the Forest I tend to look at the two verses, see if one is obviously apt to the situation, and if there is not one, pick the most positive of the two. This compensates somewhat for the imbalance in the book. Overall though for me, the Yi Jing is still the best oracle. But you are getting an Yi reading every time you read from the Forest using the above technique, so the Yi never goes away. By the way, if people could buy the book from CreateSpace, not Amazon, I would appreciate it. My royalties are better from CreateSpace. Also there is a sample of chapter 15 available (same copy in both places):

    Preview at CreateSpace


    Sample chapter at Academia.edu


    Translator’s Preface 8

    Acknowledgments 9

    About the Forest of Changes 9

    Dating the Text 10

    Themes in the Forest 10

    Conventions 11

    Duplicate Verses 12

    Merchants 12

    History as a Language in the Forest of Changes 13

    On the Yi Jing 13

    Notes on Divination 14

    Divination, Fate and the Confucian World View 16

    A Cast of Characters for the Forest of Changes 18

    1 Originating 22

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjgait View Post
    Nice picture of me, by the way, grabbing all the cash and running.
    For people interested in the sinojapanese god of wealth (BuDai / Hotei):

    The Ch'an Master Pu-tai
    Helen B. Chapin
    Journal of the American Oriental Society
    Vol. 53, No. 1 (Mar., 1933), pp. 47-52


    Ch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charly View Post
    For people interested in the sinojapanese god of wealth (BuDai / Hotei):

    The Ch'an Master Pu-tai
    Helen B. Chapin
    Journal of the American Oriental Society
    Vol. 53, No. 1 (Mar., 1933), pp. 47-52


    Ch.
    A relative perhaps?

    From the Forest of Changes:

    14 - 48

    A luminous sacrifice upon the altar of spring,
    Cheng Bao* appears, and the cock crows.
    The Yang brightness loses its way,
    Unable to defend itself.

    * Cheng Bao or Tian Bao, a god of wealth, called the ‘God of the Great Jewel’, was a popular god in the Han Dynasty. The god was associated with bright lights from the sky, rumbling noise and the crowing of pheasant cocks and roosters. In some versions of the legend the god has the head of a human, in others the head of a pheasant cock. Some scholars think the god represented a meteorite and may have reflected an incident where a sacrificial altar was hit by a bright light, possibly a meteorite. See Hawkes, 1985, The Songs of the South, Nine Regrets, III, Dangerous Heights. There are also references in the Han Shu and other sources.

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    Good luck with the book. Hard work pays off.
    I would have liked to see some Chinese characters but I'll settle for the hard research of the copious footnotes.

    I see it on Amazon.com. Pity its not on Amazon.uk where I can get cheap shipping, but they don't compete with each other.

    A big book weighing in at 3.2 pounds. I can see the logic of that as a cherished first edition but I have my doubts about that from the point of view of mass market appeal.

    The Yilin is always interesting as a relative of, or derivative of, the Book of Changes and for the reference material. You meet some great people there, like Yu the Great and Peng Zu the Chinese Methuselah, and the details of concepts like ancestor worship.

    For divination I don't use it so much, but I like the way Wang Yang (''Authentic I Ching'') uses it. He just reads the two Hexagrms of the cast and gives a few examples.

    I have used Lise's Hexagram of the Day method where you take the hexagram of your cast as the relating Hexagram and the hotd as the primary hexagram.http://www.yijing.nl/i_ching/yilin/yilin-intro.htm

    I had back pain and asked if I was fit to travel to town. The I Ching cast was 41-30.
    Using Lise's method I calculated the hotd as 57 and JiaoshiYilin 57 > 41 was indeed about going to the marketplace and seemed auspicious. Encouraged, I did make the trip even though it was risky with my tilted shoulders.

    How would I calculate the hexagram of the day ?
    I would use the Meng Zi hexagram chart from Lise's website http://www.yijing.nl/i_ching/yilin/yilin-time.htm
    Rather than the Lunar days I would use the Solar Terms and count the first line of the Gong hexagrams as the start of a Major solar term and the fourth line of the Hou hexagrams as the start of the Minor solar terms. Each line corresponds to 1 degree of the sun's longitude along the Zodiac, or slightly more than a day. http://www.weather.gov.hk/gts/time/24solarterms.htm

    So today 2nd June, I would go the 2016 Almanac page for June http://www.weather.gov.hk/gts/astron...16_index_e.htm
    June 2nd is three days before the start of the Minor solar term Corn on Ear on June 5th and that takes you to H14.1
    So the hexagram of the day is H.14.

    EDIT: Lise's lunar method would have the last quarter of the fourth month giving H.9 as the hexagram of the day. I wonder if you could use H.1 as a Hexagram of the month and get another Yilin cast ? Or H.30 as the Hexagram of the Season, the seasons being 51 30 58 29, as per later heaven trigrams doubled.
    The monthly almanacs clearly mark the four lunar phases, and the solar terms mark the change of season.

    I go with the Hong Kong times of the Almanac, and just make a mental adjustment for local time if its important. (If the times were very close to midnight I might take 1.6 into account and so Hexagram 1 as the hotd. But that doesn't apply here.)

    That's how I would calculate, but its not something I have used much in practice.

    The Almanac pages also give the lunar days, and June 2 is the 27th lunar day of the 4th lunar month. June 5th is also the start of the 5th lunar month.
    At Calendar > Gregorian-Lunar calendar conversion table > 2016
    you will see that its the 27th lunar day of the fourth Lunar month, and June 5th the start of the Minor solar term Corn on Ear.
    The table might look complicated at first glance, but its a simple and fascinating overview of the Gregorian-Lunar-Solar year http://www.weather.gov.hk/gts/time/conversion.htm

    In practice, I think the Chinese now use the traditional calendar only for calculating the dates of Festivals, and for divination.
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    Thank you for your informative reply! I find the Yi Lin a fascinating book for the study of the transition period between the Western and Eastern Han, but it is not as good as the Yi for divination. I see a couple of factors involved.

    1. The nature of a large set of oracle texts with a lot of specifics is that the answers tend to be either spot on (with the verse seeming to refer directly to the question, as in the case you point out from personal experience)...or totally off the mark, which is more frequent.

    2. Much of the Yi Lin was lost at some point and 'back filled' with duplicates. So there are actually only about 1500 unique verses in the work.

    3. A disproportionate amount of the Yi Lin texts are negative. If you look through the divining tags of the Yi Jing you will find that positive omens outnumber negatives by a very slight amount. In Zhou Yi Dao philosophy this is considered a key point. The universe has a very slight positive spin that keeps it from being in perfect balance. If it ever reaches balance....it will stop. One project I plan after my next book is to attempt to create a matrix or 'redirects' that will rebalance the Yi Lin texts to match the balance of the Yi Jing.

    On putting Chinese in, that would of course be desirable, as would the attributions texts that associate trigram images with the various words in the verses. However that would have turned the already large (518 pages of dual column text) book into a two or three volume work. I wanted to avoid that. Also I think that work eventually should be done in the context of a detailed variorum text like the Chinese ones:

    Ben She, Yi Ming, 2000, Jiao Shi Yi Lin Hu Jiao Ji Zhu (Jiao Shi Yi Lin Variorum Edition), ISBN: 9787532561728.

    and

    Liu Li Ming, Jiao Shi Yi Lin Jiao Zhu (Annotated Jiao Shi Yi Lin), ISBN: 9787807528425.

    But I'm not the person to do it. I just got a translation out there so there isn't a big hole in English translations where there should be an Yi Lin. I'm pretty sure Robert Matusan Boyler's translation of the Yi Lin does have the Chinese texts and attribution paragraphs. Not sure when he is publishing, but I know he's close to finishing.

    To generate the daily Morning Reading verse from the Yi Lin I get a a hexagram either from the Oracle of the Singularity in Second Life or generated by random.org, then get a Mei Hua hexagram based on the calendar I find at this site: http://www.zhycw.com/pp/meihua.aspx I set the year and use the 时间起卦 to generate a hexagram. I then look at both combinations of Yi Lin hexagrams, picking the most positive of the two. This compensates, to some extent, for the negative bias of the Yi Lin texts.

    I'm disappointed it's not on Amazon.uk. It is supposed to have international distribution on Amazon. have you seen how much the shipping is on CreateSpace? I ask people to buy from there if possible anyway, since I make more royalties from it. And, as you say, the Forest is hardly a mass market appeal book, so royalties are few and far between. Indeed, although there was quite a bit of noise about the book on Facebook most people have just shared the info, not actually bought it, judging from the numbers.

    You can find the results of Zhou Yi Dao Morning Reading daily on my Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/ZhouYiDao which links to my blog with the actual verse: http://templeofthesingularity.blogspot.com/

    I am currently working on a book about Zhou Yi Dao meditation and living the Yi Jing and Lun Yu and giving weekly lectures on the subject in Second Life. Look for Taras Balderdash in SL for details. Lectures are at 11 AM Eastern at the teahouse in Amatsu Shima. This week's topic will be hexagram 6.

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