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    50.1 Seems to me to be pointing out that continuing to hang on to this relationship is causing you to feel depressed, even physically ill, and that there is a need to have a total cleansing. Wash that man right out of your hair!

    50.2 Says there is absolutely nothing wrong with you and indeed your ex may come to feel unhappy that he let things fall apart - but that doesn't indicate reuniting. More like,"Living well is the best revenge!"

    30. Describes two separate flames, two independent people.

    The I Ching seems to be saying that you must stop focusing on the past and concerning yourself with this man. There is absolutely nothing wrong with you and eventually he will come to realize this but that doesn't mean you will get back together.

    I think it means that if there is to be any hope of a reconciliation you must first experience yourself as strong and complete on your own - but when you do you may decide you don't want to be partners after all.
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    30. Clarity is an interesting hexagram to study. It is made up of two fire trigrams which suggest one sun followed by another sun, thus one person, unique and independent, followed by another equally independent person. The suns trigrams also suggest one single day followed by another day and how one day following another leads to Clarity. The Judgement says "perseverance furthers, it brings success" meaning that in order to have clarity one must persevere, must continue for more than one day. Then when we have repeated something several times, it becomes clear what is important and needs to be taken care of, as in finally realizing it is the "care of the cow [that] brings good fortune."
    Looking at the lines we see this idea in six stages:
    30.1 The beginning of the day.
    We wake up and things are confused, the footprints are crisscrossed. So no
    clarity at the start of what the day will bring but if one pays attention there is the possibility of things clearing up.
    30.2 The day itself. I think of quotes like "Be here now." and
    "Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, Today is a gift so we call it The Present."

    In a relationship you might say those two lines indicate the people don't know each other well but had a good first date.

    30.3 The end of the day.
    Sounds like the date was a one night stand. Being sad or even celebrating is inappropriate. Better to be planning (taking care of the cow) for tomorrow.
    Also suggests that those who are sad don't realize there will be more days to come.

    30.4 Another day. Now we start to realize how quickly the days come and go.
    30.5 Now we've had enough experiences - enough "days" - to have something to talk about at the end of the day - not just moan as in 30.3. Sharing our stories of failure and triumph brings us all together.
    30.6 All this experience can be put to good use because now we have the clarity to know what to eliminate and what can be tolerated.

    So 30 seems to be saying, as far as relationships are concerned, we can't tell if something is real or important at the beginning. It's only over time that things reveal their true nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosada View Post
    50.1 Seems to me to be pointing out that continuing to hang on to this relationship is causing you to feel depressed, even physically ill, and that there is a need to have a total cleansing. Wash that man right out of your hair!

    50.2 Says there is absolutely nothing wrong with you and indeed your ex may come to feel unhappy that he let things fall apart - but that doesn't indicate reuniting. More like,"Living well is the best revenge!"

    30. Describes two separate flames, two independent people.

    The I Ching seems to be saying that you must stop focusing on the past and concerning yourself with this man. There is absolutely nothing wrong with you and eventually he will come to realize this but that doesn't mean you will get back together.

    I think it means that if there is to be any hope of a reconciliation you must first experience yourself as strong and complete on your own - but when you do you may decide you don't want to be partners after all.
    Rosada your interpretation seems to be very accurate.
    The truth is that our breakup was his fault. Our relationship was a mistake, it was a very bad timing. I was ready he wasn't.

    I absolutely agree about line 1 it is clear that advices me to get rid of the old staff of the past.
    I am not sure about line 2. I had this line before and it was referred to a new relationship.
    So why I believe it might be my new relationship or his new relationship.


    Looking back my archive I noticed that I have received the same answer when I asked after our breakup what will be the result between us. interesting.
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    Interesting that I found this post of mine.
    I have received this combination many times the last months.

    Months ago, I asked: Will my next relationship lead to marriage? 50,1,2>30
    Recently, I feel so confused with the answers I have received about my ex. So I just told to Iching: I'm confused 50,1,2>30

    I am still wondering what means. Get rid of the old staff? Get rid of the blockage that separate us so as to have new food (50.2) together?

    Really, I don't know but this is one of the casts that I have received a lot of times.

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    We never get back together.
    So I am wondering what the line 50.2 means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHONNA_D View Post
    So I am wondering what the line 50.2 means.
    Maybe that this situation which was very painful, still can't destroy your "inner core" in an irreversible way: your values, your trust in life, your ability to love, only to name a few qualities.
    Take a lover who looks at you like maybe you are magic -- Frida Kahlo

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    Or said in other words: You won't get bitter and therefore still will have a mindset that allows you to open up to (new) encounters.
    Take a lover who looks at you like maybe you are magic -- Frida Kahlo

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    Quote Originally Posted by olga View Post
    50.2
    you will be as strong as not to be influenced by your partner's negativity
    Quote Originally Posted by olga View Post
    When I get this line I find I can well manage although I have complaining or nasty people around!
    My two cents

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    I am afraid that the answer showed that he will have another girlfriend, so why I have received a lot of '54' for us.
    Of course after our last argument I told him for one more time that he has another girlfriend and he refused it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHONNA_D View Post
    Of course after our last argument I told him for one more time that he has another girlfriend and he refused it!
    Sorry SHONNA, but if I were this guy, I'd ran.

    How would you feel if somebody told you an alleged "truth" about yourself, just because somebody in an internet forum concluded it from your I-Ching results? Do you have any evidence of him having another girlfriend beside the fact you received hex 54 many times?

    Hex 54 is talking about being a concubine, a second wife, therefore there must be a first wife, this is logical, this is true so far. But only if you interpret it literally.
    You can also interpret I-Ching results metaphorically, I would even say that the vast majority of I-Ching results are to read metaphorically and not literally.

    Metaphorically interpreted hex 54 means that you are in an inferiour respectively secondary position.
    It is not said in which way you are secondary to someone, it doesn't necessarily have to do with a third party.

    I don't want to hurt you with my words, I rather hope to help you, even if it sounds harsh: your approach to this situation has obsessive features. You can't expect any relationship to be successful when you are obsessed with your counterpart. It is just unhealthy for everybody involved. I don't say that it is all your fault, I guess he triggered these obsessive ideas with his mixed messages. This is obviously a constellation that brings your fears and vulnerabilites out of the shadows.

    50.2 in my opinion -- I repeat myself -- means most probably that you have an essence of your soul/mind that can't be hurt or by the outer world, if you don't let them.

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