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wanderer62 said:Have any of you had experience with mental illness and has the I Ching guided you towards a clearer understanding of it for yourself or a loved one? An account of any instances would be most welcome.
:bows: Wanderer62
heylise said:A question which the Yi usually answers in a very clear way to me, is the kind of "what IS this". Usually giving a description of what was not clear to me. Without giving advice, just clarifying. Giving it a name and a place.
No idea if this is of any help
LiSe
hollis said:Mental Illness and the I Ching is a taboo subject for many. Truth be told, there should be a forum for people working with their mental illness, and using the I Ching to help the way out.
Stories to tell, it is endless.
wanderer62 said:My interpretation: Each of us is a well in our own right. I offer my well to the group but no one really takes advantage of it. I have worked hard to clean my well and I have nourishment to offer. If those who could be helped by me (and visa-versa) took up my offer "Good fortune might be enjoyed in common."
Transformation into The Abysmal (Water)
The Judgement: The Abysmal repeated.
If you are sincere, you have success in your heart,
And whatever you do succeeds.
My interpretation: As long as I remain sincere some people will respond to me.
:bows: Wanderer62 (Kate)
rinda said:You show great courage here. Please do continue. These posts are archived, and even if no-one benefits now, someone may come along later and be lifted up by your work. There are many names and labels for problems that people experience, and it has been my experience that "there ain't no such thing as normal"....
Rinda
philippa said:Hello Kate,
Welcome to the forum.
I have no direct experience with the illness but somehow I can relate to your experience. I've personally struggled with how to sort out my thoughts ("imposed" by my "superego" so to speak) and my intuition and have found I-Ching (as well as Tarot) a good tool for clarification.
Please continue to post your experience with I-Ching. Based on the number of people who have viewed this post thus far, I suspect you have generated quite a bit of interest on this forum already.
Philippa
rosada said:Yes, welcome Kate!
I hope I have not stepped on any toes with this story. I am just trying to share here what I have experienced with the I Ching and the illness. I don't imagine that I have any insight into what your experience has been and I hope that nothing I have said is out of place.
trojan said:Its important to remember the term 'mental illness' is assuming a medical model for itself.
I guess what I'm saying is the line of questioning you take above means nothing to me with the blanket term 'mental illness' because I don't believe in this blanket term. Makes more sense to me to be specific, ie ask about schizophrenia not 'mental illness' .
rosada said:Thoughts on your answer to "What is the motivating force behind mental illness?"
So I think the the I Ching is saying "mental illness" comes from a desire to do too much, to think too much, that crowd's out the abiliy of the unconcious to function. "Control freak"? Hex. 10 suggests to me the need to know what's important and what's not in order to have a strong mind.
26.5 Talks about restraining the impetuous forward drive. Thus not looking too far ahead to problems that may never happen.
5.Waiting "The superior man eats and drinks, is joyous and of good cheer." Again, staying present in the moment, enjoying the good in the moment, and not rushing ahead, or getting out of sync with What's Happening Now.
bruce_g said:On meds and treatment, Imo, therapeutic counseling should be a mandatory companion to these sorts of medications.
bruce_g said:There’s things to be experienced by going down into the pit, things someone can’t really understand until they’ve been there... The best one can learn from recovery of any kind is to be available to assist in another’s recovery.
People I know who are in similar states of recovery all seem to come out of it with a pearl of some kind; something they didn’t have before going in. You’ve probably found yours, or maybe it has found you. I wish you good health, a sound mind and a heart to help.
Bruce
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