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And what do you suggest for more respect and consideration? 44.2>33
Keep away from strangers
And what do you suggest for more respect and consideration? 44.2>33
Keep away from strangers
Perhaps you are involving others too much in your thoughts and plans
Also talking about plans all the time might be what is irritating them.
You have posted this on 2 threads which is really confusing.
Why do I often seem to irritate people?
64.4.5>59
It is because they represent a spirit that has passed.
but people imagine they are already reformers, and don't want to be bothered, so I am irritating many. As long as I keep the cat happy, I don't care what people think
Maybe you're jumping the gun on that assumption? Lighten up.
Be bolder, more self-confident, and retreat from being overly sensitive. A mentor once told me, "you wouldn't worry what people think about you if you knew how seldom they did." A joke, but it makes a point.
Olga:
59-4: Subject shall dissipate the current organization arrangement, and such initiative shall be auspicious. Once the status quo is dissipated, subject shall uncover the underlying elements that need to be addressed, depicted as small dirt mounts. These revealed elements may contradict traditional thinking and reasoning.
While you move forward in your own righteous ways and reaping some rewards, could you be possibly exposeing short comings of those around you?
HI Soooo
The fact is that I'm bold enough I think. SO bold that people get irritated. Just I don't know HOW I irritate them. It's not something I say. I think. I don't know. It might be at this point..
The problem is not me being sensitive, I don't care either about what they think!
The problem is that in a group situation things start getting unbalanced and someone would start picking at me and talk to the others through me, as if I were the person to talk about that evening. I suddenly become the stupid jolly everyone is measuring up to.
A typical example: A dinner with new people. Dinner hasn't started yet, we've all just arrived, each of us introducing to each other, and suddenly there would be this person I know that would start making comments about me, not necessarily negative, but I'm there at their side, and they would speak of me the way you would speak of your 2 year old child when you meet a friend of yours at the supermarket.
I don't know if I've been able to convey what I mean, as English is not my first language.
Anyway people get irritated a lot. and disappear. Suddenly.
I may not care but it's weird ..
Jzy are these the i ching lines from your book?
I know why I tend to irritate people on facebook/forums chats about Israel/Palestine and other political issues (immigrants, religion, Charlie Hebdo..).
It's not because I have certain ideas (I sometimes don't even have a particular definite idea on a matter and I actually like to discuss so that I can form my own idea).
It's because I debate really well (so well that I once received a private message from a newspaper's director complimenting for the way I had debated an issue) that I uncover all the weaknesses and faults in their reasoning
Sometimes they get really really angry (some of them wishing me death!) other times (especially if they're famous intellectuals or public people) they just ignore me. They don't reply because they would have to change their point of view.
But yes I think I tend to uncover things they're not aware in their reasonings.
But my question wasn't about facebook chat of course.
So I wonder if the same happens also in real life at real dinners and not just on facebook!
Likewise.. :bows:Oh and Olga if I have offended you please PM me and I can remove my comments. It isn't my intention to offend you here.
No I'm not offended at all - but it is a fact that I've irritated some of you which is really interesting!
Ah, I see. Well, she was quite specific about her reasoning, so at least you don't have to wonder why.Trojina said she found my statements irritating
so I guess it's something in my behaviour.
it was a hypothesisIt seems to me that you'd like to think you irritate other people because you make them feel jealous or insecure or because you can uncover things...
That's because you are assuming I am not an intellectual.You sound to me as if you are giving yourself airs and graces in imagining you are so intellectually amazing these famous intellectuals ignore you. I can't even take that seriously.
yeah it might be.Maybe you are overly self absorbed...Maybe if you stopped thinking about yourself and how others see you you'd irritate people less.
Please be aware I intend no offence to you here. I don't dislike you but I don't take some of what you say very seriously.
44.2 ...keep things to yourself more so that they have chance to develop. Perhaps you are involving others too much in your thoughts and plans and so somehow hindering the process of incubation
44.2...the lines says there is fish in the basket but not to share it with guests.
Be quiet. If you have a wish or a plan keep it to yourself. That way you can proceed towards your goals without attracting attention from others who may undermine it. Also talking about plans all the time might be what is irritating them.
I think that's the point! People don't take what I say very seriously. You said it twice here..
So I believe I lack authority. That's why they want to shut me up. They think I don't even deserve to speak.
there is a lot of truth!64 overall because you may convey something of a 'flux' in motion energy, not stable, trying to cross over, but not yet there, hither and thither.
Maybe sometimes, others can't quite 'catch' what you're saying.
applies a lot to online discussions. I have received compliments by journalists and intellectual people for the way I conduct my thinking and discussion. I uncover the fallacies in others' reasonings, which often ends up with me being banned altogether and excluded from the discussion.64.4 => because you could be perceived as argumentative. Always fighting the Demons.
And-Or feeling defensive-offensive; you sense or feel that you are not listened to or believed, so you feel you must persuade/ insist?
AND maybe because you may indeed often win these arguments.
(reminds me, a little bit, of Tarot's 5 of Swords.)
64.5 => because you are so confident and outspoken about it.
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
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United Kingdom
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+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).