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“This method goes back to Jing Fang (78–37 BC). While a hexagram is derived with one of the common methods like coin or yarrow stalks, here the divination is not interpreted on the basis of the classic I Ching text. Instead, this system connects each of the six hexagram lines to one of the 12 Earthly Branches and then the picture can be analyzed with the use of 5 Elements (Wu Xing).
By bringing in the Chinese calendar, this method not only tries to determine what will happen, but also when it will happen. As such Wen Wang Gua makes a bridge between I Ching and the Four Pillars of Destiny”.
These 7 rules are what everybody needs to abide but there are exceptions sometimes. It is so sad that not many people know how the Creator of Yarrow Stalks Divination came up with these 7 steps. These are basic theory of Yin and yang, anybody who understand the basic Theory of I Ching would know.
Are you familiar with the work of Wang Yang of Chongqing who uses similar non text i ching methodology ? He wrote a wrote a book for Western audience in association with Jon Sandifer.He is clearly a master diviner who can predict for example , exact times, dates, amounts, and he explains how he does it.
I suspect that Eastern people would pick up this methodology quickly enough, but for Westerners to become proficient would probably take years of hard study. Personally I find the whole mix of elements, calendar, astrology etc. quite difficult to absorb.
The basic text combined with intuition and analysis is much easier to use, with the emphasis on intuition.
Originally Posted by water 0n earth
These 7 rules are what everybody needs to abide but there are exceptions sometimes. It is so sad that not many people know how the Creator of Yarrow Stalks Divination came up with these 7 steps. These are basic theory of Yin and yang, anybody who understand the basic Theory of I Ching would know.
You should probably be made aware that the current Yarrow method you describe here is less than ten centuries old. It is a re-invention attributed to Zhuxi of the Song Dynasty, as are these rules for understanding multiple changing lines.
It is very doubtful that this was the method of Yarrow divination used in the Yi's first thousand years. In fact, a preliminary statistical analysis that I did of Pre-Qin divination results suggests that the original method produced 6,7,8,9 probabilities very similar to our current coin method (1/8, 3/8, 3/8, 1/8).
Someone should also let you know that the original authors of the Yi did not have a theory of Yin and Yang. This came along 500 years later.
There are 7 rules regularly use when consulting Yarrow Stalks Oracle:
1. If only 1 line is changing just use the line of the original Hexagram for the reading
2. If 2 lines are changing then use both lines of the original Hexagram for the reading, but use the line on top for the main reading (top line more important)
3. If 3 lines are changing then use the Judgment of the original Hexagram and the Judgment of the changing Hexagram. However, the Judgment of the original Hexagram is more important for the reading
4. If 4 lines are changing then use the two unchanging lines of the changing Hexagram for the reading. Use the line at the bottom as the important line for the reading
5. If 5 lines are changing then use the unchanging line of the Changing Hexagram for the reading
6. If 6 lines are changing, then use the “Use of 9 line” at the end of Hexagram 1 and the “Use of 6 line” at the end of Hexagram 2 for the reading.
7. If no changing, line then use the Judgment of that Hexagram for the reading.
These 7 rules are what everybody needs to abide but there are exceptions sometimes. It is so sad that not many people know how the Creator of Yarrow Stalks Divination came up with these 7 steps. These are basic theory of Yin and yang, anybody who understand the basic Theory of I Ching would know.
I was just wondering where you got this information from water On earth.
We should't use the text with the 3 coin method ?
peterg said:Also, do you use the 'Forest of I Ching' by Jiao Gan ?
There is a lot of interest in the west in the Yi Lin, although it hasn't been translated yet.
Peterg said:We should't use the text with the 3 coin method ?
Peterg said:I'm curious about the reason for not using the text in conjunction with some of the methods.
Peterg said:We should't use the text with the 3 coin method ?
Peterg said:I'm curious about the reason for not using the text in conjunction with some of the methods.
Isn't 44.5 associated with August ?
In 2008 friends of mine named Mellon went on a trip abroad on August 8th.The cast ( using dice ) was 44 .2 .5. - 56
That was the opening day of the Beijing Olympics : 8.8.2008
Mellon can be written in Chinese as two 8 side by side ( Marshalls Msandate page c.205 )
The Weaver girl festival suggested by the ' osiery ' is celebrated on the 7th day of the 7th moon which was the August moon.I think it fell on the 7th day that year ?
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how true even today
Dragon , as in 2012.
Some recent casts that seemed to be about illness :
59 - 1 , 18 - 15 , 48 - 11.
8 coin method : the trigrams are cast from the top down ?
unlike the lines which are cast from the bottom up.
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Herman discusses the na jia method and Alex Chiu's superiching in post 4 , first link.
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Herman. Harmon. Harmen.
I think I've got it now.
Although I'll bet that when I drop my guard I'll still fall into the Herman trap.
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