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In my opinion the so-called referendum is irrelevant. It is another attempt to evade repayment of debt. I agree with the finance minister of Greece that the debt is impossible to pay back. I agree with northern Europeans that it is absurd that they should continue to pay for a retirement system in Greece that is more generous than their own. I see nothing but catastrophe -- that is, a return to reality
I am a conservative who thinks that socialism -- rob from the rich to give to the poor -- is the root of all evil, because it justifies unlimited robbery
The loan money goes straight back to the lenders
Do you truly believe that the average Greek pensioner pocketed all those billions?
Pocossin, it sounds like you're an ultra-rich person, who would hate helping out the poor.
Or, if you're not a super rich person... why are you bothered?
Does anyone else see the irony of Pocossin's hatred of socialism combined with the medical care he receives?
That is because they are borrowing money to pay back money, and their creditors have finally realized the folly of throwing good money after bad. The debt cannot and will not be repaid.
Yes. Individuals are not getting billions, but the millions of them are getting billions. I do not know exact figures, and nobody can because Greek accounting is fraudulent.
I am bothered because I happen to like the Greeks, and hate to see them suffer. They are shooting themselves in the head. Greece produces nothing of economic importance that I know about except some vegetables. They live by the tourist trade, and their current choices are sure to repel tourist. Socialism -- the belief that the important thing is sharing, not producing -- is the road to poverty. The Greeks are getting there before the rest of us.
Actually, I am lower middle class bourgeois and proud of it. I am frugal and conservative. I save and repair and grow a significant part of my food. I continue to work although I am long past retirement. For me, the grave is retirement. Yes, I get a monthly check from the government, and even more importantly, my medical bills are paid for at public expense. I feel, as you said, 'super rich' not because I have much but because I have more than I need. If the inventive Greeks were to escape the delusions of socialism, they would do as well as I.
Tom,
Are you serious ? You have no idea about what is going on here.
Does anyone else see the irony of Pocossin's hatred of socialism combined with the medical care he receives?
Casting the coins about greek people´s consult I've got 28.2 going to 31.
Yes. Individuals are not getting billions, but the millions of them are getting billions. I do not know exact figures, and nobody can because Greek accounting is fraudulent.
http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/...ensioners-edges-up-2-65-million_10244650.htmlThe number of Greek pensioners edged up for a third month in a row in March, reaching a total of 2.65 million as Kathimerini online reports. Greece spent a total of 6.8 billion euros on pensions in the first quarter of the year, according to the figures produced by the Ilios system overseen by the Labor Ministry. The average monthly retirement pay, including supplementary pensions, came to 941.47 euros [1,044.11 US Dollars].
"Greek leaders rolling out the welcome mat indiscriminately to immigration"
Not exactly a welcome mat, but, almost no other country wants to help.
So what's the alternative - to let them drown at sea?
However, the "fund" for these earned "benefits" has been pillaged and plundered, with most going to those who have not earned it but have gained entitlements to it through socialistic ideology of liberal politics. . .If it went instead into a retirement account, I'd be a ranch owner or enjoying retirement in my own home by a lake, fishing my retirement years instead of shoveling another rancher's horse manure.
Let Charity come from all of Europe, all the world, not all dumped onto the back of a struggling Greece.
Where the money is, there will the socialists be gathered together
I had no idea that the socialists are the rich guys who rule all the money in the world. I thought it was the capitalists and corporations who were the greedy money-obsessed ones.
Must have got it wrong then.
Rich Greeks have the sense to move their wealth out
Good article and photos of empty supermarket shelves in Athens today. Looks like Miami supermarkets the day before you absolutely know that a hurricane will strike:
http://news.yahoo.com/sugar-flour-r...5cXVuBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM2BHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--
Rich Greeks have the sense to move their wealth out of the grasp of predators, the real "economic vultures". In any case, were they totally stripped, it would finance the bizarre Greek pension system for less than a year. Once Greeks wanted to get to heaven. Now they want to get a pension. That works as long as the Germans pay.
I pay 47% of my wage for health insurance and used to pay 45% in taxes and I refuse to hear your nonsenses and silly generalization
Clarity,
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