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Yes, go to the doctor and get it checked out!
First, that's not what an unchaning hexagram means, and even that was even a possibly its opposite could hold true too - that it won't change or get better until you get it checked out.It's unchanging which makes me think nothing will change if I go,
As David rightly says, trying to decide things like this by interpreting Yi readings can be problematic. But I'd ask, too. Am not fond of useless trips to the doctor.
The reading does say "Small yield from having a direction to go" - not much to be gained from trying to move towards a result or having a purpose in mind.
"Brings light but does not venture to pass judgement" makes me wonder if the doctor would do tests? Or make a diagnosis but not really have a treatment? (Could it be a virus? Not much to do for those.)
Bradford Hatcher says in his Gua Ming (hexagram names) document that, among other things, 22 is like social graces. I wonder if going through the motions might be another phrase.
For another perspective, you might want to read Hilary's essay on 22.
Beauty does best, yields a harvest, when it has a direction to go. The young man becomes a suitor for her and for their wedding; people become teachers for the sake of their pupils, or actors because there’s an audience. This can become a question of self-image: being something for someone.
That's the problem. If you need antibiotics - if you have a bacterial infection - then you should get them. But they shouldn't give you antibiotics for a virus.the best they can do is antibiotics
First, that's not what an unchaning hexagram means, and even that was even a possibly its opposite could hold true too - that it won't change or get better until you get it checked out.
and even that was even a possibly its opposite could hold true too - that it won't change or get better
And second, unless I understood more about how to use the Yi for medical diagnosis, I'd not rely on it for medical advice.
You said you've had an infection for quite a while (a month?), so common sense says you should go get it checked out.
22 in general can have to do with outward appearance, but surely not for this question. You're asking about going to the doctor for an infection. It has nothing to do with "beauty," per se. You have to think about it as a metaphor.I hadn't thought about that line at all, could it refer to my physical appearance, I look fine at least.
How on earth did the forum attach my name to quotes from Hilary's article? The two quotes that start, "Beauty does best, yields a harvest..." and "Like a patient for a doctor?." Can you edit your post and fix it, by any chance? I'm not sure if it's possible to make quotations from that part of the site display in the quote formatting, but if you could edit my name out?
That's the problem. If you need antibiotics - if you have a bacterial infection - then you should get them. But they shouldn't give you antibiotics for a virus.
You're asking about going to the doctor for an infection. It has nothing to do with "beauty," per se. You have to think about it as a metaphor.
the outcome of going to the doctor and got Hexagram 22uc
The character for 22 can mean 'many shells together'. So the doctor will prescribe you medication (shells, as in capsules). 22 also means energetic, forging ahead, so I would read this as yes go because you need medication.
And I am curious, what are you going to tell 'them?I'm going to call them in the morning then (urgh) and see what they say
And I am curious, what are you going to tell 'them?
Looking again at 22 and the two, 3-line figures it includes, you have Fire within - or at the foot of - Mountain: here one's clarity is limited because one's light is either hidden or partially block (by the mountain), so in this case I think it might mean that you have limited clarity about your own situation (and your are stuck), and you may need others' perspectives - their clarity and views - about it.
In the mean time, get enough water and sleep, and eat well.
A phone consultation is more superficial. He went by what you told him, by the presentation you made, how you described it to him.Not sure how that reflects 22uc
That might be a reflection of the pair, 21, Biting Through. If it gets worse more will have to be done.if it gets worse come for a test
JaT (what would you like us to call you? do you have a suggestion?), do you belong to WikiWing? If not, would you mind if I put this reading in the 22 unchanging section? I think it's a good example.
A phone consultation is more superficial. He went by what you told him, by the presentation you made, how you described it to him.
That might be a reflection of the pair, 21, Biting Through. If it gets worse more will have to be done.
At this point I think the Yi has advised as much as it can regarding your original question - and looking at it too much more is just getting into the weeds with it. To paraphrase the Yi - rearranging (or relooking, or re-examining, or re-re-examing) the Yi's response doesn't change the Yi's response.I'm convinced a lot of blood tests are tools meant to do nothing more than placate anxious patients .... Honestly unless he has a specific thing in mind he's testing for I don't see much point.
Good point, adding it now would be jumping the gun. (Maybe you'll join WikiWing in the meantime )Yes JaT sounds good, not a WikiWinger yet so sure go ahead, I'll probably end up updating again though depending on how this develops.
I should have said he was going by the presentation you made (22) rather than seeing for himself, which would be more 21-like. (21 is 22's paired hexagram, turn each end-to-end and you get the other).I don't know, its hard to say like I look physically fine and I can give a clearer picture of the symptoms over the phone then in person while at the same time it's as you say - a phone consultation is just conversation - he's not required to do any tests as he would if I was in his office.
Good point, adding it now would be jumping the gun. (Maybe you'll join WikiWing in the meantime )
I should have said he was going by the presentation you made (22) rather than seeing for himself, which would be more 21-like. (21 is 22's paired hexagram, turn each end-to-end and you get the other).
A description of something (22) is not the essence of the thing (21), even though it's all one package. It's important to describe symptoms to doctors, but it's often not enough - they still look into throats and ears, listen to hearts and lungs, take temperatures, x-rays, and blood, etc.. All those things are more like 21 - getting to the essence, collecting data, investigating ('fruitful to use legal proceedings'). I think the reading meant right now it's 22 time, not (or not yet) 21 time.
I don't think 22 is about physical appearance in this reading. It's about a 22-ish interaction with the doctor rather than a 21-ish one. "I asked Yi the outcome of going to the doctor" - thinking about that a tiny bit fuzzily, the outcome of you taking some action towards going to the doctor ("having a direction to go" - calling his office, presumably) was that you were given options, and you picked the phone consultation ("small yield").
Jesus! Make a decision here - go to the doctor or don't! But don't opt for a phone conversation and then tell us the doctor 'only saw the surface of the illness'!he only saw the surface of the illness.
Jesus! Make a decision here - go to the doctor or don't! But don't opt for a phone conversation and then tell us the doctor 'only saw the surface of the illness'!
At this point I think the Yi has advised as much as it can regarding your original question - and looking at it too much more is just getting into the weeds with it. To paraphrase the Yi - rearranging (or relooking, or re-examining, or re-re-examing) the Yi's response doesn't change the Yi's response.
My doctor doesn't order tests unless he has to look at something specific. or he needs to use it as a diagnositc tool to find out what's going on. And with a mysterious infection, I think there's a lot that can be revealed.
Okay. Sorry for being so snarky, but I thought you were saying that you weren't going to go to the doctor, nor take any tests, and that was frustrating to me. Sometimes the Yi is helpful, but you shouldn't let it replace your common sense, especially if the reading is not clear. For me, it's not rocket science: if you're sick or have an infection and it's not getting better then you should go to a doctor and get tests if that's what's needed. And if you don't like MDs, at least consider a naturapath or acupuncturist. But do something!Just looking at Yi's response to learn more about the hexagram and
That stumped me for a while. But maybe the answer's that you haven't gotten to the 'yield' part. As you reminded me, the outcome hasn't happened yet.Perhaps because of this the yield was small?
Have you taken Hilary's beginner's course? It sounds like you might have, or you'd gotten past that point on your own. (It might still be worth a once-over - Hilary has a habit of inserting unexpected gems into things.)I should probably complete some learning in the IC
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