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sparhawk said:Know any seamstress?
stevev said:I’ve always been in serious danger of being burnt at the sake. I’m glad I didn’t live 200 years ago, and that’s the point, I don’t want to see that sort of condition rise again, which could still happen, based on fixed attitudes that are just memorised and not questioned. Everything about the I Ching seems to encourage questions.
stevev said:Security and happiness, but not truth.
stevev said:Not that there is anything wrong with wanting security and happiness but without truth, are they just temporary ?
nicky_p said:I seem to remember something to do with not being able to look directly upon the glory of god?
Yes well [highlight]I guess[/highlight] I do believe in [highlight]some sort of[/highlight] absolute truth,
I’m also starting to think that delusion does serve the real purpose of shielding us from that cold hard truth which would be debilitating to look upon instantly.
How would we dream and hope when that blinding light shined on all our failings.
getojack said:Looks like you believe in a heavily qualified absolute truth.
What makes you think that the truth is cold, hard and debilitating to look upon?
And when all your failings are put on one side of a scale and all your good deeds on the other side, if your failings outweigh your good deeds you plunge into the fiery depths of hell for all eternity? I don't think so. I think each person is their own harshest critic. I can't imagine any outside force being more judgmental of me than I am of myself. I think this is the true meaning of 21: Biting Through, the hexagram currently under discussion in the Memorizing the I Ching series of threads.
I believe truth is absolute, but our perceptions can only attempt to reconstruct it according to its meaning or value to us...
I think this is where ‘spirituality’ is doing us a disservice. All these ideas about spirits, gods, reincarnation, karma etc. and the mumbo-jumbo associated with the I Ching are just confusing the issue and providing people with a convenient security blanket to hide under. If any method doesn’t provide the tools to help you clear your mind of bias, belief and delusion, what good is it ?
That’s not aimed at you Bruce, it’s just a consequence of reading through the thread and dangling off the end of your post.
I think this is where ‘spirituality’ is doing us a disservice. All these ideas about spirits, gods, reincarnation, karma etc. and the mumbo-jumbo associated with the I Ching are just confusing the issue and providing people with a convenient security blanket to hide under. If any method doesn’t provide the tools to help you clear your mind of bias, belief and delusion, what good is it ?
That’s not aimed at you Bruce, it’s just a consequence of reading through the thread and dangling off the end of your post.
I’m also starting to think that delusion does serve the real purpose of shielding us from that cold hard truth which would be debilitating to look upon instantly.
I don't equate truth with spirituality, Steve. Spirituality: "spirits, gods, reincarnation, karma etc." are ways we perceive and interpret truth. But, whatever our subjective experience of truth is, it doesn't change truth one iota.
Thinking about this with 22 in the back of my mind... one person sees flowers on a mountain and perceives the beautiful, simple, spontaneous flowering of Qi, Nature in all its glory. Another person sees the same scene and sees stems, leaves, stamens and petals reflecting a spectrum of visible light. What is the truth?
Thinking about this with 22 in the back of my mind... one person sees flowers on a mountain and perceives the beautiful, simple, spontaneous flowering of Qi, Nature in all its glory. Another person sees the same scene and sees stems, leaves, stamens and petals reflecting a spectrum of visible light. What is the truth?
Thank you very much for putting such beautiful and suggestive images. Do you know if it is a deck of cards and if it can be buy actually?
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).