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I always find it hard to understand why some scientists and science minded others behave as if science has the final answer to "where does mind come from?" and other big questions that are if fact not answered at all by science.
lightofreason said:what an amazingly ignorant statement to come out of a someone who claims to be a professional Psychologist.
Science is about discovery. It is an ongoing process and we have done more in Science in the last 100 years than in the previous 1000 and more in the last 1000 than the previous 2000. As such Science reflects natural development, slow to start with and then speeds up and we identify laws/principles as we go. In the last 3000 years we have done more in identifying the nature of our brains and consciousness and especially so in the last 50.
As I have said before, if anyone asks for a recommendation to a Psychologist Martin would NOT be on the list.
3000+ years of research into brain/mind. In fact the mind part is very small and maps to our sense of SELF and THAT has definite developmental dynamics as covered in the above reference and associated references and you can see it operating when using the Emotional I Ching where it works off brain dynamics alone - and so mind is emergent from brain when we associate mind with the development of, a product of, self.
The I Ching is a book derived from perceptions of reality by human brains lacking understanding of themselves and so using LOCAL context to aid in creating analogies to describe what they felt from their perceptions.
LOL! I know more about it than you or Laozi. ;-)
Martin,
If you ever feel to write more about angels, I would be very interested in what you have to say.
Rosada
I was thinking, to make it a bit easier for me (help!), perhaps those of you who are interested in these beings could ask questions?
Such as "do they have wings?" (answer: umm, eh, umm, not sure!)
Ok, I have two questions.
What do you believe to be the function or purpose of those entities/beings which have come to be known as Angels?
How can you distinguish between "angel communication" or the very VERY common practice of entities masquerading as angelic presences?
Perhaps it might be a good idea to start a new thread over at the "Open Space" saloon
Topal
Also Chris if your're there - the basis of your theories that all is product of brain, neurology etc etc - I do get it absolutely, no need for repetition.
like perhaps you are an extra terrestrial?
That would explain your obvious, overwhelming superiority, that's for sure.:bows:
Lightangel stop flirting with all the men !
Why would angels have a function ? I don't believe any being has a function. What function do dogs have or algae or elephants -a being is being, why must it always be subserviant to the idea of function - its that work ethic thing again I have absolutely no function and i don't want one ! I'm not a household appliance !
Trojan,
I said function or purpose. Who said anything about subservience. I think you're leather corset is too tight. That said, I think all beings have a purpose for existing. All life has a purpose, whether it's to hoover sludge from the ocean floor or for me to learn patience (among other things) Nothing to do with the work ethic - I'm no puritian! I can spank with the best of them!
Topal
I think many people take refuge in purpose, it saves them from looking into the abyss - it eludes me though - i better take this corset off
Look there is nothing I do not understand about the points you make - its not that complex, though you like to think it is.
Don't waste your time in repetition to me.
But really, Chris, honest question: have you ever thought that maybe there is something wrong with the whole thing since you are the only one that actually "gets it"????
Maybe our purpose is to look into our own personal abyss and come out the other side like all good greek heros? ALways the hardest thing to do. Depression is a signpost to that I think.
Topal
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