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I reread 12, 15, and 18. In 18 he says"...it accords with the possibilities of the time." I maybe taking this out of context, wouldn't that be the same idea as "chance". I have been reading about other religions as well as an interest in quantum physics, philosophy etc. I am searching for an answer, is life just "chance" or is there some "fate" involved. I believe that if there is really "fate" as you defined, then there must some form of higher intelligence. Maybe? A question to myself, why is this important to me? I don't know. I think discovering the I Ching made a spark several years ago.
I reread 12, 15, and 18. In 18 he says"...it accords with the possibilities of the time." I maybe taking this out of context, wouldn't that be the same idea as "chance". I have been reading about other religions as well as an interest in quantum physics, philosophy etc. I am searching for an answer, is life just "chance" or is there some "fate" involved. I believe that if there is really "fate" as you defined, then there must some form of higher intelligence. Maybe? A question to myself, why is this important to me? I don't know. I think discovering the I Ching made a spark several years ago.
, hoping rather than hopping, but decided I like hoping better than hopping in this context. It also costs less. Now where did I store that beach chair?nothing says I can't change my subjective reality of this by hoping on a plane to Hawaii
I think this covers a lot of the topics I was rambling on about.. The silence that you speak of does make a lot of sense. It is also far too easy to become dependent on other people for insight and forget that it is available within.This is where we diverge. I do think we are constantly flooded by other's thoughts. Just cover your ears. Do you hear the natural ringing noise inside? (I hope you don't have a bad case of tinnitus or it would be harder to make my point...) I'm sure you do. However, how much attention do you pay to it unless you are reminded that is there or you happen to be in total silence and it manifest itself in your consciousness? I know it is a simplistic example but my point is that we are constantly surrounded by "white background noise." We just have learned to filter it all out to live with our own voice alone. We've done it so much and for so long that we have lost the "sense." It doesn't mean, however, that don't hear it. It means that we don't listen.
I agree though that not all thoughts carry the same weight and the vast majority of all thoughts are transient and devoid of any significant footprint. By the same token, I firmly believe that the kind of concentration and attitude required to pose a question to an oracle, the ritual behind it, the interpretation, etc., does accumulate and carry a very significant weight that projects away from the querent and connects him/her to the subject in a nonlocal way. The thing is, the more covert the effect, the more subtle and effective in pushing the subject. If the subject were ever aware of such a connection the action would stop because, as you've said, there would be a "compensatory and reciprocal response."
This is from a reading I did a week or two ago. 19.2>24. Wilhelm refers to the "...Universal Law of Fate" in 19.2. So is he saying "change" is a universal law and therefore is fate?
I am not saying I have landed at a decision on this, but I thought these things tied into this:
http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=14593 (posts up to post 14)
I would like to apologize for two things. One for derailing Newmoon's thread. My comments started getting way off of the track of things concerning fate and became more about sharing readings. Two, sorry for my posts being so confusing. I was at work on a break and quickly typed out my choppy thought process. I have a lot of sorting out to do in my head regarding all of the subjects presented through this thread. -AQ
I think this covers a lot of the topics I was rambling on about.. The silence that you speak of does make a lot of sense. It is also far too easy to become dependent on other people for insight and forget that it is available within.
I would still say there is a balance with all of this. I am starting to figure out from your sprinkled posts, that you are an extreme purest.
I am guilty of wanting the answers without taking the time to think. I read a lot about the Tao, but I have a hard time reading the I Ching straight through.
Will Church be on Sundays?
True. Aging may not be fun but I believe I was blessed with the opportunity to study a lot about the Yijing, for some two decades, sans the "distraction" of the Internet and so many diverging "expert opinions." Learning about the Yijing has become a very lazy and leisure affair and most people want "digested answers" and can't seem to stop for a moment and think for themselves.
Uh? "Extreme purest"? Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
I am starting a Yijing Church and I'm looking for priestesses...
Though the many perspectives and opinions can at times be frustrating and confusing, and while some hold doggedly to their understanding as being "the" way, it's still better than being locked into the Wilhelm only way of obeying rather than thinking. I say this while having a tremendous respect for Wilhelm/Baynes, because there are treasures within that work, and like the King James Bible, it is poetic and most easily memorized. I've just learned to automatically edit what I read from it, so that I may retain what is valuable, without succumbing to a moral dogma.
I think new editions should come with Firewire adapters to just download everything that folks like you and Brad and LiSe and others have studied all these years. Of course it would require a little brain surgery but...
But even if that were possible, you couldn't download years of personal experience of actually applying all this stuff.
Everyone comes into this life with a big portion of fate. I am small and female, my fate is that I can never be a tall famous basketballplayer.
So not all roads are open, and some roads can not be avoided.
When an artist has all possibilities open, the chance that he will create something worthwhile is very small (or maybe zero). He needs obstructions, problems, challenges. I think he needs his fate in order to create. I think everyone needs challenges and trouble and whatnot, the whole s*** fate has put in your packpack, in order to create a worthwhile life. To me fate feels more like what you start from than where you end.
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